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Japhet

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You don't become a multi millionaire/billionaire (?) If you are bad at business. He's made some shit football decisions but he's obviously a good business (money making) man

There are plenty of millionaires/billionaires who are very good at one thing and atrocious at others. Levy is one of those.
 

KingNick

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The way this is playing out I’m not so sure he’s as successful as his reputation suggests. 4/5 years we’ve drifted. What successful business owner allows that to happen. It’s a bit like his rep for a last minute transfer deal, off the back of VDV. He lives off this reputation but if you were to really scrutinise it all there are lots of flaws throughout.
Not if you track the club’s valuation. On field performance has had no impact and it has continued to rise - mostly due to the stadium now being mixed-use.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Sorry but can I just ask why so many in here are so vehemently No to Luis Enrique (yet can be so excited about Ange)?

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Neither of them excite me. They’re both the wrong choices. Not even giving Poch a call was criminal in itself but to then price yourself out of Arne Slot and publicly declare you have no interest in Nagelsmann is next levels of incompetence. People say our choices are a lot stronger than they were in 2021 but the fact we’re now debating the merits of Enrique, Postecoglu, Rodgers and Potter suggests that is nonsense. Unless we can somehow snare De Zerbi or send Nagelsmann the best apology letter ever, I think anyone we get will split the fanbase and lower the patience levels among fans.
 

KingNick

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You and others keep saying this but I’d like to see some actual evidence of it.

Was he demanding at Celta and Roma, for example?

How does anyone know he’d view us as a step down. That seems a pretty big assumption. From all I can tell, he wants his next job to be in the PL and we are the biggest job he’s probably going to get. I suspect he’d be more than happy to work for us.
He’s also talked openly about wanting to build something long term and yet people repeatedly say he’s not for us as he’s not a “project manager”
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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You don't become a multi millionaire/billionaire (?) If you are bad at business. He's made some shit football decisions but he's obviously a good business (money making) man
Well has he? His so called fortune is tied up in a sale of the club, until that happens it’s in bricks and mortar. And way it’s going its value is going down. And also leveraged against the good name of our football club.
He is worth a few quid, I’m sure a large portion of that has been accrued by creaming a nice slice salary out of the club for achieving what exactly? He’s a chancer and a pretender.
 

spursfan77

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Yep its actually probably easier for players to adapt to tiki taka than it is for them to adapt to a very rigid defensive 3-4-3 where most of the time you have to stay in a shape and you have strict instructions as to where you can move and when and where you can pass also the gaps between the players is huge so you're having to hit 20-30 yard passes, its not a fun style to play in.

Tiki Taka has players that are a lot closer together and just relies on quick 5-10yard pass and move, actually not that hard for most professional players if they're coached in the right way, heck Lewis Dunk looks like Beckenbauer under De Zerbi for example. But sure we would need to sign some more technical players to make it work well but we could make good use of 3 currently on loan who'd fit perfectly into this style.

I thought when he went to Barcelona there were complaints from their fans that he moved away from this and went a lot more direct? He probably returned to that more possession based way with Spain because of the players he had and no decent strikers.

Also, those who think anyone who is signing up for a “project” is going to be disappointed. I don’t think there is a project.
 

spursfan77

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Whilst he isn’t my top choice I have to disagree with your last two points here.

As a personality he is actually pretty down to Earth and likeable. He’s not an egomaniac like Conte and Jose. When he was at Celta he was far from demanding and actually changed the ethos of the club. Talk to any fan of Celta at the time and they will wax lyrical about him. Just because he managed Barca doesn’t make him a glamour manager. Remember Ernesto Valverde or Tata Martino?

As for his style of play, it isn’t slow. It’s actually very direct. From his time at Barca B, where he actually did better than Pep, he streamlined the Barca tiki taka slow possession. His time with Barca and Celta he valued getting the ball up to the top of the pitch as swiftly as possible in order to catch the opposition off guard. Fast passing patterns and FB’s that sat high up the pitch, more like wingers. Yes he does use elements of that Barca passing style and he presses high and likes to retain possession but his football is not as suffocating as Pep or Kompany. And as I mentioned this isn’t a style that only worked with Barca’s crazy team, he got Celta doing the same.

I really feel there is a preconception amongst Spurs fans about Enrique that is completely unfounded in certain respects. I don’t know where it stems from. His Barca and Celta team were a joy to watch. What happened with Spain at the World Cup was very much down to Morata not being fully fit. He had to play false 9 and his tactics, unlike Pep, needs a technical striker. His only other real option was Morano who is more a target man and not great technically. Kane would be perfect for his system.

Some of what you say is true and I share some concerns, can he work outside of Spain is a big one for me. But I feel that some people are a little miss informed when it comes to certain elements of him as a coach. Is he my top choice, absolutely not but he’s certainly one of the best options out of those currently linked.

Great post. I too am unsure on him but of all the candidates now available he’s probably only behind Nagelsmann for who I’d want. Not that I think we will actually hire either.
 

KingNick

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Well has he? His so called fortune is tied up in a sale of the club, until that happens it’s in bricks and mortar. And way it’s going its value is going down. And also leveraged against the good name of our football club.
He is worth a few quid, I’m sure a large portion of that has been accrued by creaming a nice slice salary out of the club for achieving what exactly? He’s a chancer and a pretender.
It might be tied up but it is instantly realisable. And it most certainly is not going down any time soon
 

hamsup_sotong

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any remote chance of the dof and manager coming in by the time the window opens?
we have so much squad remodelling to do..
it's extremely worrisome
 

Snarfalicious

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Are we even sure Daniel Levy really cares all that much any more about the footballing side or he isn’t suffering from some form of burnout? Just seems like there’s not that much effort happening, and we are obviously directionless, and everything football related seems like such an afterthought these days. Maybe he truly is just burnt out on it, but can’t fully step away. Kind of like at work when you have a task you know needs done, but keep pushing it off because it’s such a pain point and you don’t have the motivation to complete it. He is human after all. Hopefully when Munn is fully acclimatized and we do get a new DoF, if this is what is going on, he can recognize the benefit of a trusted footballing structure. Or he just continues on in this vein and we all just hate everything.
 

JCRD

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any remote chance of the dof and manager coming in by the time the window opens?
we have so much squad remodelling to do..
it's extremely worrisome

I have always said about two weeks post end of season before I get really pissed off and concerned. Then again at the time I said that, I didnt realise we were gonna have the list of potentials halved.
 

luRRka

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There are plenty of millionaires/billionaires who are very good at one thing and atrocious at others. Levy is one of those.
Totally agree but to call him a chancer and say he's effectively a fraud as a businessman is just plain wrong. (Not a levy lover, wish he would fuck off but he's clearly not a shit businessman)
 

jpascavitz

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Weird that we have hardly heard a thing since the Slot fiasco.

Only realistic 2+2 in my head is if we were in for Postecoglou then he has said himself the focus is on the cup final this weekend and would expect to hear more right after that.

Otherwise would just expect we're sniffing around completely undecided still
 

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Only realistic 2+2 in my head is if we were in for Postecoglou then he has said himself the focus is on the cup final this weekend and would expect to hear more right after that.

Otherwise would just expect we're sniffing around completely undecided still
It's sort of unfathomable that someone in DL position, recovering from the Slot fiasco, would simply wait for AP to finish his cup final, as opposed to renegotiating with someone else/aiming higher
 

synththfc

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Weird that we have hardly heard a thing since the Slot fiasco.
my guess would be that nothing concrete is happening. the board are scrambling because they didn’t expect that feyenoord would want actual money for their prized asset, and that caught them by surprise
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Weird that we have hardly heard a thing since the Slot fiasco.
As well as going a record 517 without signing a player we are going for the record length for a professional Premier League Club not having a permeant Manager, we will start the season with Mason still classed as 'interim' and will continue to fire and re-hire interim Managers throughout the season in order to break this record.

The club will be proud of this and will add these achievements to the profit league table, the Beyonce concerts etc.
 
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