Next Manager Watch

[spursfan77]

Slot looks like the type of manager I will get ridiculously excited by, then we won't go near him, I'll be furious, he'll go to Everton, struggle because of the structure there and underperform and I'll pretend I never rated him.

Plus, just think of the puns!

 

[BathYid]

The big appeal at Chelsea is that they just hired Vivell as their new DoF who Nagelsmann worked well with at Leipzig. I could certainly see that as a very attractive proposition to both JN and Chelsea.

Do you really believe that Chelsea are going to ditch Potter after paying Brighton £21.5m to get him and probably having to pay Potter the same amount to fire him? Can't see it myself.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

I completely agree.

A video I stumbled upon that I don't think have really been shared yet

His pattern of play highlights for his AZ squad a few seasons ago. I know it's dutch league, salt required, but if our side played with this tempo/togetherness then I would back it.

Spent a good bit of the last few evenings looking in to Arne Slot as, other than the Conference League final against Roma, I had very little knowledge of him.

From my research and watching a couple of games. The best way I could explain his style or attacking system, is as a Raumdeuter unit.

A Raumdeuter, for those unaware, is a term coined by Thomas Muller to describe his role on the pitch. It translates to 'Space-Interpreter. A good brief explanation of this type of player is provided below:

"Raumdeuter or space interpreter is a role in which the player has two main objectives. First, find the space in the opposition’s defence. Second, exploit the space. The player does not occupy a fixed palace; his position on the pitch is determined by where the space is. One thing is sure, most of his play occurs in the attacking third of the pitch."

Full article explaining it here: https://www.foottheball.com/explain...ics-poacher-positoning-movements-muller-alli/

Arne Slot has very impressively managed to implement a pretty unique system, using the ideas of the Raumdeuter, at both AZ Alkmaar and Feyenoord in a quite short period of time.

His team set up in a 4-2-3-1 (sometimes 4-3-3) which by design is able to progress the ball up field very easily. They look to draw out the opposition with square passes in the back line (Usually a temporary back 3 consisting of the two CB's and the pushed up GK) and then play the ball through the lines to the midfield pivot, or else to the two fullbacks who have pushed up to create a midfield 4. This system is actually quite similar to the one currently employed in the prem to great success by De Zerbi.

From here they employ short passes into the feet of the wide forwards or full backs hoping to again draw out the opposition backline, leaving space in behind. Any player then, be it the fullback, midfield pivot or wide forward, are encouraged to run into the space created behind the oppositions wide player which will very likely result in a 1v1 out wide.

To explain in easier terms, Arne Slot's teams look to draw out the opposition and have runners into space to create 1 on 1 opportunities out wide in the forward lines.
Basically, they create artificial counter-attacks from their own possessions.
The major advantage of this system, is it doesn't require an incredible passer to break through the lines and isn't reliant on having super technical players either. Which is a perfect fit for our squad currently at the moment.

It's also a super aggressive and forward thinking style which is very pleasant to watch. Players will be constantly moving off the ball and making runs into space and there will be very little sideways passing as the team constantly looks to progress the ball up field.

 

[Cochise]

The big appeal at Chelsea is that they just hired Vivell as their new DoF who Nagelsmann worked well with at Leipzig. I could certainly see that as a very attractive proposition to both JN and Chelsea.

You'd imagine that Vivell would be whispering in Boehly's ear every time Potter's Chelsea don't win. My only hope regarding Nagelsmann is that after reflection he may see a club like ours a safer bet than another title hunting ,"must win" club like Chelsea.

 

[felmani26]

The big appeal at Chelsea is that they just hired Vivell as their new DoF who Nagelsmann worked well with at Leipzig. I could certainly see that as a very attractive proposition to both JN and Chelsea.

Let's be fair, Vivell plus an ownership that undoubtedly has put their money where their mouth is must be a mouthwatering prospect for Nagelsmann.

One must hope Potter can convince them otherwise on their pursuit.

 

[RuskyM]

Despite Spurs being my true love (sorry to the mrs) I follow Celtic also (due to family and my Irish roots etc).

This is the type of bloke I want in charge of my club....as well as being a good coach and playing good football, he's a decent guy.



After the last few years I really think he could be the type to galvanise the club/fan base and be a success.
(Although Nagelsmann would be my 1st choice).


EDIT - just read the comments on that YouTube video to see the impact he's had on the club.

Spot on. If we’re not going to win the league, I’d like a manager who makes me proud. People mock Nuno for saying it but he was right - managers work for the club and are indebted to the fans. With Conte and Mourinho it was always the other way around.

This is also why I like Frank - his genuine enthusiasm for Brentford is lovely.

 

[jpascavitz]

Spent a good bit of the last few evenings looking in to Arne Slot as, other than the Conference League final against Roma, I had very little knowledge of him.

From my research and watching a couple of games. The best way I could explain his style or attacking system, is as a Raumdeuter unit.

A Raumdeuter, for those unaware, is a term coined by Thomas Muller to describe his role on the pitch. It translates to 'Space-Interpreter. A good brief explanation of this type of player is provided below:

"Raumdeuter or space interpreter is a role in which the player has two main objectives. First, find the space in the opposition’s defence. Second, exploit the space. The player does not occupy a fixed palace; his position on the pitch is determined by where the space is. One thing is sure, most of his play occurs in the attacking third of the pitch."

Full article explaining it here: https://www.foottheball.com/explain...ics-poacher-positoning-movements-muller-alli/

Arne Slot has very impressively managed to implement a pretty unique system, using the ideas of the Raumdeuter, at both AZ Alkmaar and Feyenoord in a quite short period of time.

His team set up in a 4-2-3-1 (sometimes 4-3-3) which by design is able to progress the ball up field very easily. They look to draw out the opposition with square passes in the back line (Usually a temporary back 3 consisting of the two CB's and the pushed up GK) and then play the ball through the lines to the midfield pivot, or else to the two fullbacks who have pushed up to create a midfield 4. This system is actually quite similar to the one currently employed in the prem to great success by De Zerbi.

From here they employ short passes into the feet of the wide forwards or full backs hoping to again draw out the opposition backline, leaving space in behind. Any player then, be it the fullback, midfield pivot or wide forward, are encouraged to run into the space created behind the oppositions wide player which will very likely result in a 1v1 out wide.

To explain in easier terms, Arne Slot's teams look to draw out the opposition and have runners into space to create 1 on 1 opportunities out wide in the forward lines.
Basically, they create artificial counter-attacks from their own possessions.
The major advantage of this system, is it doesn't require an incredible passer to break through the lines and isn't reliant on having super technical players either. Which is a perfect fit for our squad currently at the moment.

It's also a super aggressive and forward thinking style which is very pleasant to watch. Players will be constantly moving off the ball and making runs into space and there will be very little sideways passing as the team constantly looks to progress the ball up field.

Thanks for sharing, and some great insights there. Makes perfect sense and definitely agree that I think our current squad could look way better than they have with this system.

The only things/videos I wasn't able to find were the weaknesses of his system. I assume like most, just turnovers can lead to counter attacks. But I couldn't find if he likes his sides to gegenpress, or fall into a medium block on any turnovers to gain numbers.

 

[RuskyM]

Plus, just think of the puns!

Don’t muck about waiting til summer: Slot straight in.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Do you really believe that Chelsea are going to ditch Potter after paying Brighton £21.5m to get him and probably having to pay Potter the same amount to fire him? Can't see it myself.

Obviously thats the big question. Considering the amount of money he has thrown around, i actually think it isn't as farfetched as one would assume and there have already been talk in the press about there being concerns. I mean a few weeks ago by some accounts he was only a game or two away from getting the sack. With Vivell there if Boehly is even remotely concerned then with JN available he might well make that discussion. He could well see it as the perfect match up and an opportunity too good to turn down. TBH I'v given up trying to understand the way that club works, logically you should be completely right but the way they have been moving I honestly can see it happening. Really it comes down to how well Potter preforms in the remaining games.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Did you all hear that? It's the sound of us all pulling down the arm of a Slot machine, in unison. Let's hope we...

Hit the jackpot.



Yeeeuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Let's be fair, Vivell plus an ownership that undoubtedly has put their money where their mouth is must be a mouthwatering prospect for Nagelsmann.

One must hope Potter can convince them otherwise on their pursuit.

If Potter really does go I think there is no chance JN goes anywhere else. If Vivell wasn't there I wouldn't be so certain, but as it is I would think he was nailed on. Like you say, the money plus a DoF he has a very good relationship with, why would he come here instead.

 

[PrettyColors]

I feel he's the most realistic choice and so I have changed my vote accordingly.

I’ll have you all know that I’ve been Pining for the Slot for weeks now. Thank you for the co-sign.

 

[homer hotspur]

Do you really believe that Chelsea are going to ditch Potter after paying Brighton £21.5m to get him and probably having to pay Potter the same amount to fire him? Can't see it myself.

I can quite easily believe that of Chelsea. Probably depends how they finish the season. Cant rule them out winning the CL yet.

 

[PrettyColors]

Do you really believe that Chelsea are going to ditch Potter after paying Brighton £21.5m to get him and probably having to pay Potter the same amount to fire him? Can't see it myself.

Absolutely I believe it. Boehly is willing to spunk £100m on literally any random player with 88 potential on FIFA. If Potter isn’t able to deliver results what is £21.5m to him?

study his dealings with the LA dodgers. He makes massive splash signings because ultimately the CL/PL TV and sponsorship money from success will recoup his investments. He will pour money into it forever and ever until he sees a return.

 

[wrd]

Plus, just think of the puns!

Yeah, his name would Slot right in with our love of pun artistry

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We’ve gone from a club you looked at and thought “a lot of the pieces are there, some changes and it might work out…”

to

“What. The. Fuck… is happening over there.”

Yep we always had the spursy joke tag but right now we genuinely are seen as a complete joke on the football side, the media are all reporting on it, other fans are all saying it.

My Q is will prospective managers take this into consideration or will they just see the attraction of a decent wage, change to manage in the PL, great facilities to work with and a half decent squad as very attractive and so put to one side the fact that we clearly are not aligned internally on the direction we want to go in on the football side.

I think this is evenmoreso why we need a 'project' type manager but one who can clearly communicate to the fans what the vision is like Poch used to do in his press conferences, as opposed to Jose saying he loves the pillows and our squad when he knows he doesn't have what he wants or Conte the opposite who was making out he was doing us a favour the whole time.

We need a manager to inject our club with positive energy and a sense of direction.

Slot, Postegoglu, Nagglesman, De Zerbi, Gallardo, L.Enrique even B.Rodgers all would likely get us playing the right style of football and would/should develop our players BUT personality wise which of these would bring renewed positive energy and which would be comfortable communicating and setting out a vision and direction for the football project.

People might not like him but I actually think B.Rodgers could be quite good at communicating that as he did whilst he's been at Leicester.

Another one who would be almost the best fit for that would be Thomas Frank, however his style of play would let him down but in terms of a positive character who can drive a project forwards he's proved at Brentford that he can most certainly do that.

Anyone know more about some of the other names mentioned as to if they'd be a good fit for setting out our direction and plan?

 

[VancouverSpur]

I’m actually slightly horrified by the reaction to the Emma Hayes suggestion. Can I just say that if you’re dismissing it, or ‘liking’ posts dismissing it, then it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does Emma Hayes or any other female manager. There was a time when a foreign manager managing in England would have seemed abhorrent. Explain to me what it is that makes women incapable of managing a team of men? Happens all the time in the workplace…are they devoid of tactical nous? Player management? Do they not understand how to set up technical training? I’m genuinely fascinated why a woman can’t do it, please enlighten me. And if it’s just that “it’s never been done before” then fuck me, let’s never introduce any change whatsoever. Let’s go back to kicking a pigs bladder around a field with no offsides and 16 players on a team.
My rating is set to take a battering here I’m sure but I don’t care.

Topic aside I might take a pigs bladder, no offside and 16 players over VAR at present,

 

[BuckeyeSpurs11]

I’m actually slightly horrified by the reaction to the Emma Hayes suggestion. Can I just say that if you’re dismissing it, or ‘liking’ posts dismissing it, then it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does Emma Hayes or any other female manager. There was a time when a foreign manager managing in England would have seemed abhorrent. Explain to me what it is that makes women incapable of managing a team of men? Happens all the time in the workplace…are they devoid of tactical nous? Player management? Do they not understand how to set up technical training? I’m genuinely fascinated why a woman can’t do it, please enlighten me. And if it’s just that “it’s never been done before” then fuck me, let’s never introduce any change whatsoever. Let’s go back to kicking a pigs bladder around a field with no offsides and 16 players on a team.
My rating is set to take a battering here I’m sure but I don’t care.

Is there nowhere else to virtue signal?

 

[PrettyColors]

What kills me is that we can choose some truly great options to lead our next project, both a DoF and Manager. Paratici and Conte being such a hilariously disastrous duo was a blessing in disguise. We have an AMAZING opportunity here which I’m not sure most on here actually grasp.

In my gut though… I know we’ll mug it up.

 

[rabbikeane]

Honestly, who do Brighton have their eye on to replace De Zerbi?

Ange Postecoglou, Marcelo Gallardo and Kjetil Knutsen were the names mentioned last time.