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fishhhandaricecake

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I completely agree.

A video I stumbled upon that I don't think have really been shared yet

His pattern of play highlights for his AZ squad a few seasons ago. I know it's dutch league, salt required, but if our side played with this tempo/togetherness then I would back it.

As you say pinch of salt as Dutch league but this is actually the closest thing I've seen to our famous 'push and run' style, I've always thought that the Ajax/Dutch style of 'total football' is the closest thing to how Spurs fans would in an ideal world like to see our club play football.

Keep the ball mostly on the floor, quick pass and move 1-2's, with technical players.

Not the tiki taka 1,000 passes for the sake of getting 80%+ posession but rather a good strong amount of posession 60%+ but move the ball with pace and purpose.

If anyone can get us playing closer to this I think our fans would give that type of project a lot of patience because it would be very enjoyable at times.
 

Snarfalicious

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Arne Slot:

Pros:
- Attractive, high-intensity football
- May very well win the Eredivisie this season
- Will play the yoof
- Seems like a likeable fella
- Speaks good English
- Doesn't dress like a PE Teacher

Cons:
- Not a ton of experience
- Bald
- Name is going to be very punny and there will be a contingent on SC that hates him because of all of the puns and because they are miserable human beings
- Always compared to ETH which will get old fast
 

theShiznit

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Arne Slot:

Pros:
- Attractive, high-intensity football
- May very well win the Eredivisie this season
- Will play the yoof
- Seems like a likeable fella
- Speaks good English
- Doesn't dress like a PE Teacher

Cons:
- Not a ton of experience
- Bald
- Name is going to be very punny and there will be a contingent on SC that hates him because of all of the puns and because they are miserable human beings
- Always compared to ETH which will get old fast
I've heard he's a machine... :whistle:
 

chippospur

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You'd imagine that Vivell would be whispering in Boehly's ear every time Potter's Chelsea don't win. My only hope regarding Nagelsmann is that after reflection he may see a club like ours a safer bet than another title hunting ,"must win" club like Chelsea.
Sums us up nicely, 'a club like ours' as opposed to a 'title hunting, must win club'. Surely we should be aiming to be exactly that?
 

H-SF

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The big appeal at Chelsea is that they just hired Vivell as their new DoF who Nagelsmann worked well with at Leipzig. I could certainly see that as a very attractive proposition to both JN and Chelsea.
Yeh, I am pretty worried he’ll end up there. Boehly has been reluctant to get rid of Potter but Nagelsmann being available might change things.
 

Shanks

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I’m actually slightly horrified by the reaction to the Emma Hayes suggestion. Can I just say that if you’re dismissing it, or ‘liking’ posts dismissing it, then it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does Emma Hayes or any other female manager. There was a time when a foreign manager managing in England would have seemed abhorrent. Explain to me what it is that makes women incapable of managing a team of men? Happens all the time in the workplace…are they devoid of tactical nous? Player management? Do they not understand how to set up technical training? I’m genuinely fascinated why a woman can’t do it, please enlighten me. And if it’s just that “it’s never been done before” then fuck me, let’s never introduce any change whatsoever. Let’s go back to kicking a pigs bladder around a field with no offsides and 16 players on a team.
My rating is set to take a battering here I’m sure but I don’t care.
To answer seriously I guess.

no men’s football experience, it’s widely accepted that by he women’s game and men’s game are worlds apart, technically, tactically and physically, you can’t compare them both.

women’s football has come on heaps and bounds though, no doubt about it, but a manager coming from women’s football into men’s, at the very highest level isn’t the one for me, in fact May as well stick a non-league manager straight in, as it would be similir I suppose.
 

delawarespur

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Whoever we end up getting, I just hope the club puts aside its ego and hires someone solely based on the philosophy they want to create for the long term. Honestly don’t care at all about experience. As long as it’s someone who will have support to build over time and fits what the club wants to be. (If the club are competent enough to make that step)
 

cliff jones

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Spent a good bit of the last few evenings looking in to Arne Slot as, other than the Conference League final against Roma, I had very little knowledge of him.

From my research and watching a couple of games. The best way I could explain his style or attacking system, is as a Raumdeuter unit.

A Raumdeuter, for those unaware, is a term coined by Thomas Muller to describe his role on the pitch. It translates to 'Space-Interpreter. A good brief explanation of this type of player is provided below:

"Raumdeuter or space interpreter is a role in which the player has two main objectives. First, find the space in the opposition’s defence. Second, exploit the space. The player does not occupy a fixed palace; his position on the pitch is determined by where the space is. One thing is sure, most of his play occurs in the attacking third of the pitch."

Full article explaining it here: https://www.foottheball.com/explain...ics-poacher-positoning-movements-muller-alli/

Arne Slot has very impressively managed to implement a pretty unique system, using the ideas of the Raumdeuter, at both AZ Alkmaar and Feyenoord in a quite short period of time.

His team set up in a 4-2-3-1 (sometimes 4-3-3) which by design is able to progress the ball up field very easily. They look to draw out the opposition with square passes in the back line (Usually a temporary back 3 consisting of the two CB's and the pushed up GK) and then play the ball through the lines to the midfield pivot, or else to the two fullbacks who have pushed up to create a midfield 4. This system is actually quite similar to the one currently employed in the prem to great success by De Zerbi.

From here they employ short passes into the feet of the wide forwards or full backs hoping to again draw out the opposition backline, leaving space in behind. Any player then, be it the fullback, midfield pivot or wide forward, are encouraged to run into the space created behind the oppositions wide player which will very likely result in a 1v1 out wide.

To explain in easier terms, Arne Slot's teams look to draw out the opposition and have runners into space to create 1 on 1 opportunities out wide in the forward lines.
Basically, they create artificial counter-attacks from their own possessions.
The major advantage of this system, is it doesn't require an incredible passer to break through the lines and isn't reliant on having super technical players either. Which is a perfect fit for our squad currently at the moment.

It's also a super aggressive and forward thinking style which is very pleasant to watch. Players will be constantly moving off the ball and making runs into space and there will be very little sideways passing as the team constantly looks to progress the ball up field.
great stuff mate, till I imagined Lloris to Dier to Sanchez to Tanganga etc, then had to have a lie down
 

Chris Flynn

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I'm sorry, but aside from the manager debacle that resulted in Nuno, Paratici has been great.

He's got rid of players we didn't need, brought in a very good group of players all with room to improve as they mature and completely renovated our back room staff.

Those cheering his dismissal are equal parts ungrateful and blind.
while i agree, i dont think people need to be 'greatful' that he did his fucking job
 

carpediem991

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“Women and men should be considered equal” = virtue signalling.

yeah ok mate you’re right I’m clearly the dickhead here.
They are treated equal, still you do not find any women that has a CV that is close to be good enough to be considered for that position. Most manager who are men haven't either.
Coaching a good women side and having UEFA badges is not enough indication this could work in any way.

Nothing to do with sexism, Bayern has a great team manager that is female that every player is excited about.
 

TPdYID

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I’m actually slightly horrified by the reaction to the Emma Hayes suggestion. Can I just say that if you’re dismissing it, or ‘liking’ posts dismissing it, then it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does Emma Hayes or any other female manager. There was a time when a foreign manager managing in England would have seemed abhorrent. Explain to me what it is that makes women incapable of managing a team of men? Happens all the time in the workplace…are they devoid of tactical nous? Player management? Do they not understand how to set up technical training? I’m genuinely fascinated why a woman can’t do it, please enlighten me. And if it’s just that “it’s never been done before” then fuck me, let’s never introduce any change whatsoever. Let’s go back to kicking a pigs bladder around a field with no offsides and 16 players on a team.
My rating is set to take a battering here I’m sure but I don’t care.
Cor that little outburst would have made Antonio proud. Keep flying the pink flag!
 

IamSpurtacus

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I’m actually slightly horrified by the reaction to the Emma Hayes suggestion. Can I just say that if you’re dismissing it, or ‘liking’ posts dismissing it, then it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does Emma Hayes or any other female manager. There was a time when a foreign manager managing in England would have seemed abhorrent. Explain to me what it is that makes women incapable of managing a team of men? Happens all the time in the workplace…are they devoid of tactical nous? Player management? Do they not understand how to set up technical training? I’m genuinely fascinated why a woman can’t do it, please enlighten me. And if it’s just that “it’s never been done before” then fuck me, let’s never introduce any change whatsoever. Let’s go back to kicking a pigs bladder around a field with no offsides and 16 players on a team.
My rating is set to take a battering here I’m sure but I don’t care.
Don’t you think it would be better to have her (or someone like her) take over a lower league club to prove themselves before jumping in a top 6 club?

jumping from women’s football to elite men’s football is an entirely different proposition.

To criticize people who can see the difference is just grand standing
 

Japhet

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If Potter really does go I think there is no chance JN goes anywhere else. If Vivell wasn't there I wouldn't be so certain, but as it is I would think he was nailed on. Like you say, the money plus a DoF he has a very good relationship with, why would he come here instead.


I have no idea how close Chelsea are to a FFP meltdown, but they can't be far off it even with the ridiculous contracts they've dished out to the players they recently signed for 500m. A big payoff to Potter won't do them any favours in that respect so maybe that's something they have to consider.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Probably nothing as I think he will stay as Italy Manager but Mancini's name being linked today...

Not really a project manager but got Italy and Man.City playing very nice football I'd not be against it but probably other better suited options.
 

TPdYID

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Didn't she reject an interview at AFC Wimbledon claiming it was too low a level for her?
And then gave it all the Billy-big-bollocks boobs, how a woman working in elite sport, coaching a WSL team the size of Chelsea shouldn’t have to drop down to league 1 to launch a career in the men’s game.

She was outraged at the thought of league 1, clearly beneath her.
 
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