Next Manager Watch

[ComfortablyNumb]

The problem we have if Poch did come back is that those who don’t want it to happen will jump on us massively every time we don’t win. They’ll forget all about the project and the rebuild in an attempt to say I told you so. It’s predictably childish but it will happen.

You talkin’ to me? You talkin’ to me! I don’t see anyone else here…

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

He won nothing in five years .

Why do we want more of that?

As opposed to what we have seen since he left?

 

[Spursfan1414]

Why does the next person need to know the club inside out? Poch didn't when he took the job. There's plenty of attacking managers available.

This man twice decided to threaten to leave before the biggest game of our clubs history. Sulked for a year and started acting weird in press conferences over nothing. Not to mention never making any subs and the occasional dissapeance of a promising youth player. I don't want another dose thanks.

I think some of you are Poch fans first, and Spurs fans second. I have to be honest I just don't understand any of you at all. Imagine singing Poch songs when he hasn't been here for years, have a head rattle.

Yeah stupid match going fans, should’ve ignored the tens of thousands of people there singing it with them and listened to some contrarian on SC.

Lots of ways to support Tottenham but I’ll never understand people who condescend those who actually pay and give up time to support the team in person. I was there yesterday, I sung Poch’s song, I’m not embarrassed about that at all and I’m not going to be told that I should be.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

The club can forget about winning anything until it fixes itself. Better scouting, better strategy, better backing of managers, better youth development.

Makes more sense to concentrate on what type of football we want to see for the next manager as the style of play has been grinding for 4 years now.

Out of Pochettino, Naglesmann, Kompany, Slot, Postecoglou, Gallardo who play the best style? Be interested to hear peoples thoughts.

 

[Mate]

Whilst I'm not a huge advocate of Poch coming back (yet), we as a fanbase are an impatient bunch and there is no other manager on this planet that would be given as much time to rebuild as him

 

[Metalhead]

Poch coming back looks increasingly likely. We have to insist he works with a DOF. We need a really clear strategy as a club now and not changing for each manager.

Is it?

 

[HedgieSpur]

Yeah stupid match going fans, should’ve ignored the tens of thousands of people there singing it with them and listened to some contrarian on SC.

Lots of ways to support Tottenham but I’ll never understand people who condescend those who actually pay and give up time to support the team in person. I was there yesterday, I sung Poch’s song, I’m not embarrassed about that at all and I’m not going to be told that I should be.

I was also there yesterday, as I am home and away. I'll ignore the "tens of thousands" hyperbole but I didnt sing it. Im a Spurs fan and I am there to support my club. In the same way I dont sing about Burkinshaw, Greaves, Gilly, Archibald, Crooks, Hoddle, Waddle, Gazza, Ginola etc, I dont sing about a manager who isnt part of our club anymore. In faxt if I was going to chant another managers name in terms of the football we played it would be Arry and not Poch.

You of course are free to support the club however you wish but I personally find yours and fans like you yesterday behaviour very odd and pretty divisive.
But each to their own....

 

[For the love of Spurs]

Whilst I'm not a huge advocate of Poch coming back (yet), we as a fanbase are an impatient bunch and there is no other manager on this planet that would be given as much time to rebuild as him

the impatience is more recent and very self inflicted by the club. The club hired win it now managers who play bland styles of football but deliver trophies.

that only works if you win trophies. We don’t so there is no decent football to watch and no success. Long as the next manager has us in the top half of the league he will get a lot more time playing good football that has clear long term development elements than a manager with no decent football and no long term growth.

 

[Harrier]

A significant number of fans these days are wedded to managers and wont let go. Each to their own but I personally find it very odd

A manager that had us playing attractive football, had us punching above our weight on a meagre budget, got us to a Champions League final, cemented us as top four regulars whilst coming close in two title races?!

Yeah I find it personally odd why anyone would cling onto that!

 

[HedgieSpur]

A manager that had us playing attractive football, had us punching above our weight on a meagre budget, got us to a Champions League final, cemented us as top four regulars whilst coming close in two title races?!

Yeah I find it personally odd why anyone would cling onto that!

How long will you be clinging onto it for? If he goes to another club will you still be chanting his name?

 

[rossdapep]

I compare the Poch situation with that of the current Klopp situation. Theyre shit now and so were/still are shit. Thyere sticking with Klopp as he had earned enough credit - I think Poch at the time deserved that kind of support and backing and that credit is still in the bank in my opinion. At the risk of making it sound like a movie sequel, there is 'unfinished business'

We need someone to come in and galvanise us all again. Poch is my absolute number one choice. He is someone who isnt going to think he is above us, belittle us and someone doing us a favour. yes we have a few still with us, but he is then the only one who can come in hitting the ground running, knowing what we need and want

Bring him the fuck back.

I think a big difference is Klopp will have felt backed in his period there.

That probably means he's been less likely to lose faith like Poch did.

Klopp has supposedly been promised a big investment next summer.

He got Darwin, Diaz and Gakpo for big money too so he hasn't had a period where he is likely to get upset with the owners.

Poch gradually over 3 or 4 years just got more and more entrenched in a feeling he will never get what he needs

 

[Harrier]

How long will you be clinging onto it for? If he goes to another club will you still be chanting his name?

Why do you think people are chanting his name?!

We’re without a manager and he’s available!

It’s a product of circumstance!

 

[HedgieSpur]

Why do you think people are chanting his name?!

We’re without a manager and he’s available!

It’s a product of circumstance!

Genuinely, I think people nowadays are wedded to managers and formations and systems and blah blah blah rather than supporting the clubs through thick and thin. I partly blame the shitshow we've had for the last 3 years but I still think its embarrassing.

In any event, it's not likely to determine the outcome imo, so I guess it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things.

 

[easley91]

The more I think about it, the more I'm somewhat happy with the names on the list. From what I understand, the majority are not defensively minded and in all honesty that's the starting point for the next manager for me. We have to go on the front foot from now on. We have the players to do it.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

The more I think about it, the more I'm somewhat happy with the names on the list. From what I understand, the majority are not defensively minded and in all honesty that's the starting point for the next manager for me. We have to go on the front foot from now on. We have the players to do it.

Yeh don’t think any of the main targets are anything but attacking in style and most seem to have reputations of developing players. It’s something I guess.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Please don't spam the thread. Thanks

 

[Harrier]

Genuinely, I think people nowadays are wedded to managers and formations and systems and blah blah blah rather than supporting the clubs through thick and thin. I partly blame the shitshow we've had for the last 3 years but I still think its embarrassing.

In any event, it's not likely to determine the outcome imo, so I guess it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things.

I think that’s probably the case with managers like Mourinho, but not necessarily Poch.

Personally I didn’t have much interest in what PSG was up to when he was there.

I think you’re right in that the last few years have Spurs fans hankering for the peak Poch period, and that’s inevitable when he’s available and we’re looking.

 

[Thenewcat]

He won nothing in five years .

Why do we want more of that?

As for "galvanizing" coincidently only Brighton had a worse record that last half year Poch was with us.

Poch win% was 54%
Jose: 51%
Conte: 54%

There's obviously more behind the stats, but Poch isn't the answer to our current situation'

The next appointment will be our fourth manager in four years, non lasting more than a season.

Rinse and repeating with a former manager would be simply regressive.

Yeah I fucking hated getting 86 points and having the best attacking and defensive record in the keague. Getting to the CL final was a ball ache as well. Pointing out that a man who conspicuously wasn’t backed had a better win rate then Jose and the same as Conte even though they were showered with vastly more transfer backing is a very odd way of trying to denigrate his time here as well.

I understand the arguments for saying now isn’t the right time to bring Poch back, but this kind of snooty bullshit that suggests he was anything other than brilliant for us is just embarrassing. It went wrong at the end (because he wasn’t backed imo) but it’s the best years of watching spurs since the 80s, if not earlier. Right now I’d love more of that. I’m actually happy with any of the names being bandied about at the moment, but would love to see Poch back

 

[Jody]

Tuchel taking over Lampard. Took them from 9th to top 4 and CL winners in just 4 months, using the exact same squad of players. Our current squad is not devoid of ability and talent, they are just absolutely bereft of confidence and have been coached to not play. Mourinho, Nuno and Conte have had them set up to sit off and not play with the ball, just inviting wave after wave of attacks on the hope Kane & Son could conjure up a winner. You sit under that much pressure for any length of time and mistakes are inevitable. Watch them with the ball and they look like rabbits in the headlights, afraid to move of make a bold play because they have been coached specifically not to, almost looks like they are afraid of what Conte would do or say to them.
Just needs someone to come in and take the shackles off, get them playing with more bravery, but actually working on it during the week, how to find and exploit space with the ball. You have more possession, you should restrict the amount of pressure your defence comes under.
Look at Kulusevski when he first came, bold, made things happen, being praised. Now playing very within himself. Last year we played Brighton, Bissouma bossed our midfield virtually on his own through a mix of athleticism and technical quality on the ball, but this year he’s barely had a look in, and when he has he’s been largely uninspiring. Same player, but had the bravery coached out him. Who even knows what’s happened to Son this year. I look at our deficiencies at LWB, and Reguillon really was a step up, rash occasionally yes, but bought a real energy, quite often braking into the box to square the ball or get on the end of a sweeping move, but marginalised by Conte and shipped out, leaving us with an injury prone Sessegnon (who still needs developing, not hanging out to dry) and Perisic who looks lost defensively.
A change of coach can extract so much more out of this bunch than we are currently seeing, but keeping Conte’s team in charge will not change anything and we’ll just coast on through the next 8 games being dull, uninspiring and error ridden as any slither of passion and confidence ebbs away. Mason would have been a far better option than Stellini, if you’ve listened to the High Performance podcast with him, he just sounds like he would have tried to lift things up and given players freedom.

This is a brilliant post

 

[Joe Bjorn Hotspur]

Yeah I fucking hated getting 86 points and having the best attacking and defensive record in the keague. Getting to the CL final was a ball ache as well. Pointing out that a man who conspicuously wasn’t backed had a better win rate then Jose and the same as Conte even though they were showered with vastly more transfer backing is a very odd way of trying to denigrate his time here as well.

I understand the arguments for saying now isn’t the right time to bring Poch back, but this kind of snooty bullshit that suggests he was anything other than brilliant for us is just embarrassing. It went wrong at the end (because he wasn’t backed imo) but it’s the best years of watching spurs since the 80s, if not earlier. Right now I’d love more of that. I’m actually happy with any of the names being bandied about at the moment, but would love to see Poch back

Also unbeaten at home in our final season at the Lane under Poch. When you look back, most pundits said it at the time as well, they, Levy & the board needed to continually add to the squad and we all know what happened from there.