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C-oops

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It wasn't done on training pitch though, it was done by transfers. Only 8 players in the whole squad remained from the last season, over 60% minutes in league was played by new players, from the 10th most used players 7 were new signings. And I guess someone like Connor Roberts after playing at Swansea under Potter and Cooper were already able to play more attacking, ball-dominant football before Kompany came.
Wasn't done on the training pitch... ?Don't talk such nonsense. How many times do people say you can't get 7 or 8 new signings in during a window because it's disruptive? As if they all came in and instantly became a team who all sang off the same hymnsheet. They've been drilled on the training ground by a seemingly good coach who knows what he's doing..
 

Shanks

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Even if Kompany was offered the role, can you honestly see him accepting?

we hear we are going for a ‘name’ but I can’t get out of my head the absolute shit show state the club is in at the moment.

from the outside, it’s awful - a chairman whose reputation is bottom of the pile, interfering, doesn’t give the managers the players they want or need, buys a bargain etc etc

then the team, on paper - it’s shockingly bad, quite literally a Harry Kane away from a relegation fight.

the ‘whole’ defence needs a massive upgrade, and woth that, time to settle.

we have one, maybe 2 decent centre midfielders and absolutely zero playmakers in the side, throw in wingers that haven’t performed (or wing backs) and a strike force that is aging - Kane is 30 now, can you see him staying, I can’t - so even more of a shit show.

honestly, whilst this maybe a bit doom a gloom, I genuinly cannot see anyone of reasonable reputation taking the job and then succeeding without a serious cash injection and ruthlessness in getting rid of those not good enough.

I mean, the neg rep I got for stating Porro was the wrong signing was ridiculous (decent player, but way more important positions).

as for manager, until the board is sorted, it won’t make a blind bit of difference whose at the helm
 

H-SF

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I think this is just an example of how you can never please all the people all the time.

If we are too defensive, we are not attacking enough.

If we are too attacking, we are not defensive enough.

If we press high, we let in balls over the top.

If we sit back, we concede too much possession.


Small sample size - but the biggest complaint I read on SC: "We need to play more on the front foot!" If we hire a manager to address those concerns - it probably leaves us more open in the back.

(I think some people want to play more like Brighton/Brentford/Leeds - but only until they realize that those teams are mid-table for a reason...at which point the complaints will be different)
Last bit of the post makes no sense. Brighton are 7th and will be 5th if they win their games in hand. Based on underlying data they are the 3rd best team in the league, playing similar football to City and Arsenal. If we could play like them I'd be extremely happy.
 

BujuBanton

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Evening all. Ive been on a ban for the last 3 weeks for calling Mr Levy a rude word.

do we know whether the club are looking to appoint a manager asap, or waiting till the summer?
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Last bit of the post makes no sense. Brighton are 7th and will be 5th if they win their games in hand. Based on underlying data they are the 3rd best team in the league, playing similar football to City and Arsenal. If we could play like them I'd be extremely happy.
Just so I am clear - you would be happy sitting 7th in the table, with 9 games left - including home to Man City and Man United, and away to Arsenal, Newcastle and Villa? (5 of the 6 teams ahead of them in the table... and, they have taken just 4 points from the teams ahead of them in the table, including 0 from Spurs - who are by all accounts terrible this season...)
 

Ghost Hardware

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Evening all. Ive been on a ban for the last 3 weeks for calling Mr Levy a rude word.

do we know whether the club are looking to appoint a manager asap, or waiting till the summer?
All the targets that have been mentioned thus far won’t join until summer. Id be amazed if someone came in now.
 

spursfan77

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I think this is just an example of how you can never please all the people all the time.

If we are too defensive, we are not attacking enough.

If we are too attacking, we are not defensive enough.

If we press high, we let in balls over the top.

If we sit back, we concede too much possession.


Small sample size - but the biggest complaint I read on SC: "We need to play more on the front foot!" If we hire a manager to address those concerns - it probably leaves us more open in the back.

(I think some people want to play more like Brighton/Brentford/Leeds - but only until they realize that those teams are mid-table for a reason...at which point the complaints will be different)
The reason I highlight it is because it’s been a common complaint about us this season.
 

Strikeb4ck

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XG please?
Hmm I hadn't actually dug into this yet, but they are 6th in the Championship for xG (60xG, 78 GF - monstrous overperformance) and 1st for xGA (40xGA, 30 GA - also hugely overperforming, albeit they do have the best defensive metrics).

I don't watch the league so I can't say more than that, but tbh that is outrageously fortunate on paper, 20 xG difference and a 48 actual goal difference is about as good as any team could possibly run.

Again, won't comment more as I haven't seen them play much at all, but that definitely gives me a little bit of pause when it comes to all the plaudits they are getting.
 

ntmac82

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Oh, well I guess we never know but the last ITK said Levy talked to him a number of times but thought he needed to manage somewhere in Europe first. Which I’d maybe understand if managers like Postecoglou, Slot and Kompany weren’t at the very top of our list which they supposedly are.
It's because Daniel Levy really hasn't got a clue when it comes to appointing managers. He has got lucky a couple of times but generally he is woeful at making the right selection. Probably sticks a picture of all the available managers on a dart board and throws a dart blindfolded and whoever it lands on he goes after.
 

elfy

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What sensible, realistic, managerial decision could we make for the last 7 games of the season?
'Arry would have perfect short term IMO. Between Jose and Conte, the players look overcoached. I thought it was telling when Son scored the other week, he said he wouldn't ordinarily have taken the shot.
There was a time he'd ALWAYS have taken a shot - space, shoot. Space, shoot. It has looked like players were coached not to take speculative shots.

I honestly think that the players would have benefited from an arm around the shoulder, 'just run around a bit' style til the end of the season and get a bit of joy back in their games, results be dammed.
 

Tezza1978

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Even if Kompany was offered the role, can you honestly see him accepting?

we hear we are going for a ‘name’ but I can’t get out of my head the absolute shit show state the club is in at the moment.

from the outside, it’s awful - a chairman whose reputation is bottom of the pile, interfering, doesn’t give the managers the players they want or need, buys a bargain etc etc

then the team, on paper - it’s shockingly bad, quite literally a Harry Kane away from a relegation fight.

the ‘whole’ defence needs a massive upgrade, and woth that, time to settle.

we have one, maybe 2 decent centre midfielders and absolutely zero playmakers in the side, throw in wingers that haven’t performed (or wing backs) and a strike force that is aging - Kane is 30 now, can you see him staying, I can’t - so even more of a shit show.

honestly, whilst this maybe a bit doom a gloom, I genuinly cannot see anyone of reasonable reputation taking the job and then succeeding without a serious cash injection and ruthlessness in getting rid of those not good enough.

I mean, the neg rep I got for stating Porro was the wrong signing was ridiculous (decent player, but way more important positions).

as for manager, until the board is sorted, it won’t make a blind bit of difference whose at the helm
Sorry this is pure hyperbole, people need to calm down even though things aren't great right now.

The idea that we would be in a relegation fight without Kane is utter nonsense. We might be a few places lower but we would be playing Richy upfront and Danjuma in far more games. If he leaves in the summer there is 0% chance we don't spend a huge chunk of the money on a top class striker

The team is not "shockingly bad" on paper. If that is true - how are we ahead of Brighton, Chelsea, Liverpool and still with a *very* remote possibility of top 3?!!

We've all debated to death the players that need to leave. 2 new CB's , an AM to replace Lucas, a new top class GK could be all we need to really challenge under a new attack minded coach. Easily doable in 1 window, we made more signings than that last summer. If Kane goes we replace him too. A large chunk of the deadwood at least will definitely be gone also.

Accept the fact that we are all waiting for the season to end and it could be painful and slow. But it is only another month! I don't want a rushed appointment now for the sake of it, June is fine. Plenty of decent managers would kill for the opportunity and challenge (and money!!) of the hotseat here. The idea that no one decent wants the job is bullshit.
 

jolsnogross

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Hopefully the Kompany chatter and rumours are just that. He's too green right now to be given the job. And the thinking behind jumping from Mourinho & Conte type managers to a relative novice is too incoherent.

There are attack-minded mid-career managers available. Emery is an example of one doing very well at Villa. It wont be him, but that profile would be good.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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If he leaves in the summer there is 0% chance we don't spend a huge chunk of the money on a top class striker
It’s probable - but the chance is not 0%

We have several holes to fill, and if Kane leaves, that would not be our highest priority. Richarlison can play that position- as he does for Brazil. So there is some chance that the Richarlison acquisition was done as part of the planning for Kane leaving. (We would still need another forward, but it does not have to be, and likely would not be, a big money signing.

Porro and Kulusevski will come out of the summer budget. And, we must sign a Lloris replacement and a starting CB.

Then it depends on the needs of a new manager. Maybe we need a LB or a CM or an AM. We will also need another winger - but that could be purchasing Danjuma. And we would need a striker to backup Richarlison.

Hopefully we can actually sell some of the deadwood this summer, but there is a non-0 chance that we sell Kane to finance the rest.
 
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