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cockerel downunder

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I think poch just really wants a London job as his family is settled there. I’d. be gutted if we. Ends up at Chelsea though snd we hadn’t even spoken to him.
 

Timberwolf

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Ngl it would make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to have another follicly challenged Dutch fella as our manager.


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Ghost Hardware

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The main reason I'm leaning towards someone upcoming like Slot, Kompany, De Zerbi, etc over Enrique is simply cos of where Enrique's at in his career and his expectations of us as a club.

Enrique's a funny, charming guy but he's also very feisty. I find it very easy to imagine him getting thoroughly fucked off with Levy after about 12-18 months if we're not where he expects us to be and then storming out. The league is going to be very competitive next season and we'll have no guarantee of Europa, let alone CL qualification. It could very easily be a repeat of his stint at Roma where he finished 7th and left after a season.

While there's a higher chance of Slot, Kompany & co being outright disasters, I think they have a much bigger chance of building a bond with the fans and building something special longer term, Poch style. They'll also have more to lose and probably be more amenable to Levy's bullshit which, sadly, seems to be a necessary quality in a successful Spurs manager.

After the Conte and Jose debacles I'd rather we take that risk.
Tbh I was more curious as to why the clamour for Slot specifically rather than a direct comparison. Even if you exclude Enrique theres still RDZ, Kompany, Amorim, Ange etc. But I appreciate the response.

Personally I think any manager that has the right positive/passionate energy will create a bond with the fans. I don’t think that’s necessarily exclusive to a younger or less experienced manager.

I also don’t necessarily think there’s anything to suggest that Slot or Kompany say will be more likely to build a longer term project. I think when looking at all the candidates the length of the project will end up being just as much dictated by how well put together the team is for the manager by the DoF. After all even Kompany lost faith with Anderlecht’s transfer plans and vision causing a rift.

Anyway, I agree that we need someone who is passionate, committed, engaged and plays good football but beyond that, outside of my two first choices both of which seem to be no goes, I don’t really see a clear top choice.
 
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Timberwolf

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Tbh I was more curious as to why the clamour for Slot specifically rather than a direct comparison. Even if you exclude Enrique theres still RDB, Kompany, Amorim, Ange etc. But I appreciate the response.

Personally I think any manager that has the right positive/passionate energy will create a bond with the fans. I don’t think that’s necessarily exclusive to a younger or less experienced manager.

I also don’t necessarily think there’s anything to suggest that Slot or Kompany say will be more likely to build a longer term project. I think when looking at all the candidates the length of the project will end up being just as much dictated by how well put together the team is for the manager by the DoF. After all even Kompany lost faith with Anderlecht’s transfer plans and vision causing a rift.

Anyway, I agree that we need someone who is passionate, committed, engaged and plays good football but beyond that, outside of my two first choices both of which seem to be no goes, I don’t really see a clear top choice.
Yeah fair enough.

Personally my number one pick would be De Zerbi and would be happy if we pushed the boat out to get him over Slot.

As for Slot himself, it's probably more of a gut feeling than anything tbh. Seems like a very likeable measured fella, communicates well, plays good stuff, would love to be here, has massively overperformed domestically and in Europe. Fair amount of risk, but strikes me as a forward-thinking appointment and I like the cut of his jib.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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The main reason I'm leaning towards someone upcoming like Slot, Kompany, De Zerbi, etc over Enrique is simply cos of where Enrique's at in his career and his expectations of us as a club.

Enrique's a funny, charming guy but he's also very feisty. I find it very easy to imagine him getting thoroughly fucked off with Levy after about 12-18 months if we're not where he expects us to be and then storming out. The league is going to be very competitive next season and we'll have no guarantee of Europa, let alone CL qualification. It could very easily be a repeat of his stint at Roma where he finished 7th and left after a season.

While there's a higher chance of Slot, Kompany & co being outright disasters, I think they have a much bigger chance of building a bond with the fans and building something special longer term, Poch style. They'll also have more to lose and probably be more amenable to Levy's bullshit which, sadly, seems to be a necessary quality in a successful Spurs manager.

After the Conte and Jose debacles I'd rather we take that risk.
Fantastic post 👏 completely agree.
 

Trent Crimm

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The main reason I'm leaning towards someone upcoming like Slot, Kompany, De Zerbi, etc over Enrique is simply cos of where Enrique's at in his career and his expectations of us as a club.

Enrique's a funny, charming guy but he's also very feisty. I find it very easy to imagine him getting thoroughly fucked off with Levy after about 12-18 months if we're not where he expects us to be and then storming out. The league is going to be very competitive next season and we'll have no guarantee of Europa, let alone CL qualification. It could very easily be a repeat of his stint at Roma where he finished 7th and left after a season.

While there's a higher chance of Slot, Kompany & co being outright disasters, I think they have a much bigger chance of building a bond with the fans and building something special longer term, Poch style. They'll also have more to lose and probably be more amenable to Levy's bullshit which, sadly, seems to be a necessary quality in a successful Spurs manager.

After the Conte and Jose debacles I'd rather we take that risk.
So am I. Give me 20m a year.
 

Trent Crimm

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Then perhaps they need to move on and get over it. Like pining for an ex 3 years after you've split up, you are both entitled to move on as it isn't healthy for anyone to be stuck in the past like that. If Glenn can go there and play and manage them and still have the love of the fans, than surely a guy that only had a 3-4 year association can too.
What if the ex is even hotter now tho. And has learnt some well filthy moves since you last hooked up.
 

YIDfromtheLANE

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It’s not helping us that the Chelsea search seems very mobile and in the public eye as actually happening whilst ours isn’t and so the perception is that we are sitting on our hands (which is what is probably happening).

I feel like I’ve reached a point I’m so frustrated with Levy’s approach over this last few years that the probability is whoever comes in is likely to fail that any noise true or false which the turns the heat up on him is welcome. I know it won’t increase the likelihood of correct decisions being made, but makes me feel better. 😄
 

septicsac

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At a guess I would say we are no closer to a new manager than the day AC was let go, lets face it when it comes to the football side of things it is next to impossible to have faith in Levy and the board.
Any manager is risking whatever reputation they have joining either us or Chelski, might be a question of the lesser of two evils,:Chelsea with their 3 squads, loads of money , but possible lunatic owner and likelihood of FFP restricting spending or evil bald dwarf DL, with plenty of money, but no idea how to spend it, poorly run club from top to bottom and star player might want out? Its little wonder managers are holding off to keep their options open until the end of the season, both options are a huge risk and unlike what most here want, in a manager who genuinely wants to be here, its likely throwing money at someone will be the only way to convince someone to take the jump.
 

Trees

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At a guess I would say we are no closer to a new manager than the day AC was let go, lets face it when it comes to the football side of things it is next to impossible to have faith in Levy and the board.
Any manager is risking whatever reputation they have joining either us or Chelski, might be a question of the lesser of two evils,:Chelsea with their 3 squads, loads of money , but possible lunatic owner and likelihood of FFP restricting spending or evil bald dwarf DL, with plenty of money, but no idea how to spend it, poorly run club from top to bottom and star player might want out? Its little wonder managers are holding off to keep their options open until the end of the season, both options are a huge risk and unlike what most here want, in a manager who genuinely wants to be here, its likely throwing money at someone will be the only way to convince someone to take the jump.
Age old thing tho mate. Money talks.
 

Metalhead

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At a guess I would say we are no closer to a new manager than the day AC was let go, lets face it when it comes to the football side of things it is next to impossible to have faith in Levy and the board.
Any manager is risking whatever reputation they have joining either us or Chelski, might be a question of the lesser of two evils,:Chelsea with their 3 squads, loads of money , but possible lunatic owner and likelihood of FFP restricting spending or evil bald dwarf DL, with plenty of money, but no idea how to spend it, poorly run club from top to bottom and star player might want out? Its little wonder managers are holding off to keep their options open until the end of the season, both options are a huge risk and unlike what most here want, in a manager who genuinely wants to be here, its likely throwing money at someone will be the only way to convince someone to take the jump.
On the other side of the coin, the delay could be as much about them dithering about as it is the reluctance of candidates.
 

mr ashley

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The main reason I'm leaning towards someone upcoming like Slot, Kompany, De Zerbi, etc over Enrique is simply cos of where Enrique's at in his career and his expectations of us as a club.

Enrique's a funny, charming guy but he's also very feisty. I find it very easy to imagine him getting thoroughly fucked off with Levy after about 12-18 months if we're not where he expects us to be and then storming out. The league is going to be very competitive next season and we'll have no guarantee of Europa, let alone CL qualification. It could very easily be a repeat of his stint at Roma where he finished 7th and left after a season.

While there's a higher chance of Slot, Kompany & co being outright disasters, I think they have a much bigger chance of building a bond with the fans and building something special longer term, Poch style. They'll also have more to lose and probably be more amenable to Levy's bullshit which, sadly, seems to be a necessary quality in a successful Spurs manager.

After the Conte and Jose debacles I'd rather we take that risk.
Totally understand your position on this but for me if we’ve identified the right candidate (for the right reasons), then we should hire him- be it Enrique or otherwise.
I don’t want our selection criteria to be influenced by a candidate’s ability to put up with levy’s continual bullshit antics.
im hoping that the appointment of munn and a new dof will also mean that we have greater objectivity in our appointment

As much as it would lead to further turmoil if the new man fell out with levy- that’s on levy. And right now I don’t think he can afford to carry on doing things the way he has been.
Change has to come from the top. And if it won’t then it almost doesn’t matter who we appoint
 

spursfan77

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The main reason I'm leaning towards someone upcoming like Slot, Kompany, De Zerbi, etc over Enrique is simply cos of where Enrique's at in his career and his expectations of us as a club.

Enrique's a funny, charming guy but he's also very feisty. I find it very easy to imagine him getting thoroughly fucked off with Levy after about 12-18 months if we're not where he expects us to be and then storming out. The league is going to be very competitive next season and we'll have no guarantee of Europa, let alone CL qualification. It could very easily be a repeat of his stint at Roma where he finished 7th and left after a season.

While there's a higher chance of Slot, Kompany & co being outright disasters, I think they have a much bigger chance of building a bond with the fans and building something special longer term, Poch style. They'll also have more to lose and probably be more amenable to Levy's bullshit which, sadly, seems to be a necessary quality in a successful Spurs manager.

After the Conte and Jose debacles I'd rather we take that risk.

I actually think one of the key characteristics of the next manager is that he’s an affable chap, good with the players, the media and the fans. I think his man management of everyone will be as important on an every day basis as his match day tactics. Whoever is best at that, is who we should go for.
 

spursfan77

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To add to my post above. I’m not talking about appointing Barry Fry, I’m talking about a guy who can get journalists and fans onside (as well as the players) and communicate in good English (something I think Conte struggled with from the start).

Since Poch there’s been such a huge negativity around the club and like it or not that stems from the manager and how he conducts himself with the media. Mourinho was Mourinho (combined with covid) and although not as bristly as Nuno (who didn’t want to answer questions) or as tetchy as Conte he was very much about protecting himself over the team.

Rebuilding confidence with the fans and promoting a bit of positivity around the place will work wonders, I’m convinced of that. Combine it with some good early attacking performances and next season could well be fine, but it needs to happen.
 
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