Next Manager Watch

[Yantino]

Which basically means changing pretty much everything.

Yep. Which is what we’ve all been saying for ages now, right?

Club is a mess and it all needs a reset from top to bottom.

To the original point made though - there are enough good quality players in our squad for (the right) head coach to start making some pretty quick improvements to our style of play.

 

[Timberwolf]

Enrique doesn't quite feel like the right fit does he, compared to a Slot or Kompany etc.

However I wouldn't say he would be 'boring', his sides play nice possession passing football.

If the rumours today and yesterday are true that Slot has said no and Kompany has said no and Nagglesman prefers Chelsea and Poch is unlikely then who are we left with big Ange at Celtic vs Enrique vs Rodgers?

Tbh if it was out of one of those 3 I'd like big Ange from Celtic, plays very similar football/style to Pep's City and good character to inject some positivity and energy into the club and squad and I think he's worked with Munn before.

Enqirue I'd not mind but it doesn't quite feel like the right fit, Rodgers weirdly I actually feel ok about, he ticks a lot of boxes and if he brought Maddison with him then happy days. I suppose Potter is also another possibility, personally I'd rather Rodgers than Potter, I think Potter is out of his depth at bigger clubs.

The good news is that is a good 6-7 names all of whom play decent or much better football than our previous 3 managers and all of whom are a better fit for our club than our last 3 managers, the bad news is this is Levy and so we could still end up with Glasner or Galtier (both negative and not good options) even though there are a plethora of exciting options to pick from right now.

Rodgers would probably actually do an alright job here tbh. He did an exemplary job at Leicester for a few years and his teams do tend to start off really strongly. His rep is at a low point right now as he stayed at Leicester for too long, but he's certainly not as bad as this season's results suggest.

However, almost the entire fan-base hates him as a bloke so he'd be a very unpopular choice, and I'm starting to wonder if he's now on the downhill slide? When he arrived on the scene he was full of new ideas but now the younger managers seem to be innovating a lot more, while he's doing the same old stuff. Plus he's absolute dog-shit in the transfer market and when his teams fall off the wagon, they fall off hard.

He'd be a fuck-ton better than Nuno, but I think our glass ceiling with him would be about 4th and he'd fall off after that.

 

[A Bit Much]

Yep. Which is what we’ve all been saying for ages now, right?

Club is a mess and it all needs a reset from top to bottom.

To the original point made though - there are enough good quality players in our squad for (the right) head coach to start making some pretty quick improvements to our style of play.

Things may look shit at the moment but we all know it can change quickly in football. I'm excited at the prospect of slot or kompany (given they are the frontrunners for the moment) who can definitely, with a few additions, get us playing front-foot football. I can't stress enough how important it will be for spurs to start being an attacking team who takes initiative. It'll take a good deal of pressure off our crap defence and also off the manager/fans who have clearly had enough of the recent style.

 

[PaulThurston]

I don't know why but Enrique leaves me cold. I can't really see what he's achieved that would lead me to think he'd be anything other than another boring, disastrous appointment.

I can understand that view.

Enrique seems to be a similar level of appointment (if not stylistically) to Jose and Conte and it just seems like we should be trying something different.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Kompany has come out of nowhere to seemingly be a front-runner. Hell of a gamble but one can see the rationale behind it.

My worry is with him is that there are few managers who have done amazingly well in the Championship, like Farke and Nuno but aren't the right stuff for a top PL team. It's a huge gamble which is why I'd prefer a Gallardo or Slot as they have more experiences on their CV.
It could also be caveated that Howe was looked over because he only really had Bournemouth on his CV and look how well he's doing.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I genuinely think we have a good base for the right manager to build up from - Porro, Udogie, Romero, Bentancur, Bissouma, Skipp, Sarr Kulusevski, Son, Richarlison, Kane (if he stays).

Add to that Spence, Reguillon (if we recall him), Gil (if we recall him), I still think playing in a possession style that Lo Celso could have some merit for us. If the new manager played a high energy, dynamic, passing, posession style of play then they could have a basis of a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 squad such as the below to work with:

Lloris (if stays one more season or NEW GK NEEDED), Forster

Porro (Emerson, Spence) Romero (NEW CB NEEDED) NEW LCB NEEDED (Dier,*Lenglet if we sign him*) Reguillon *if recalled* (Udogie, Davies)

Bentancur (PEH, Skipp) Bissouma (Sarr)

Kulusevski (Gil) NEW AM NEEDED (PEH as a n.o8 or Lo Celso) Son (Perisic or Danjuma *if we sign him or WF NEEDED*)

Kane *if he stays* (Richarlison)

MUST SELL! : Sanchez, Tanganga, Ndombele, Winks.

Say we hired Enrique or Big Ange or Kompany and they played a 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 then yes some work to the squad is needed this summer and I don't trust our club to actually do what is needed, move the players on that absolutely need moving on and bring in the positions we need BUT if we did have competent football people and a well thought out plan then really with some sensible re-calls and 5-6 new signings we could have quite an exciting and fairly young team.

Imagine the below XI under Enrique or Big Ange in a high press, possession style, I think we'd be great to watch could have a decent league finish and could start to build something exciting:

Raya

Porro/Emerson
Romero
P.Torres
Reguillon

Bentancur
Bissouma
Maddison

Kulusevski
Son
Kane

We'd then have some other exciting bench/young squad options: Spence, Udogie, Skipp, Sarr, PEH, Lo Celso, Gil, Perisic, Danjuma*?, Richarlison

I know its not a squad building thread but there is so much constant doom and gloom, I'm just pointing out that with some sensible management of our current squad, the players we have out on loan and 5 decent signings we could have the makings of a very good young exciting team for the right fit of new manager to work with, IF there are football people at the club who can set out a vision such as this to align with the right fit new manager.

For me any of Slot, Kompany, Ange, Rodgers, Enrique could all work with a squad like this as they all play a similar style of 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 possession football.

 

[Stoof]

Let's be careful about turning this thread into anything that it's not.

 

[Hotspur33]

My concern about Kompany, Slot or even Gallardo is we won’t give them time. We need to forget about champions league. Kane will be off and we need to accept our level and give the new coach time to build.

But we won’t.

I agree with this, I think they will only get given time if they banish the scapegoats like Dier and Sanchez.
Similar to the early Poch years, he inserted the likes of Bentaleb and Mason into the starting 11, and basically threw out Kaboul and BAE.
At this point fans are only going to give any patience to Academy players or players that aren’t associated with bad performances (Bentancur, Danjuma)

 

[Spurvert]

I can absolutely believe Kompany would turn us down to stay at Burnley next season. He was an elite player, with an elite mentality, so he will back himself to do well enough next season that jobs like Spurs, or better, would not disappear.

It might be a sad indictment of where we are as a club right now, but I find it very easy to believe. I do not think Kompany will be our next manager anyway, I think that will be Slot

 

[felmani26]

I can absolutely believe Kompany would turn us down to stay at Burnley next season. He was an elite player, with an elite mentality, so he will back himself to do well enough next season that jobs like Spurs, or better, would not disappear.

It might be a sad indictment of where we are as a club right now, but I find it very easy to believe. I do not think Kompany will be our next manager anyway, I think that will be Slot

Then he'll equally back himself to be the man who finally brings success/silverware to Tottenham where Conte, Jose and to a lesser extent, Poch failed.

That'll be some ego trip for sure!

 

[Spurvert]

Then he'll equally back himself to be the man who finally brings success/silverware to Tottenham where Conte, Jose and to a lesser extent, Poch failed.

That'll be some ego trip for sure!

I get the feeling he wants to manage Burnley in the Prem, though.

 

[YIDfromtheLANE]

Indulge me, Is there any chance that we have our man agreed. And even if that’s one that is available, they have wanted to distance themselves from the shit show of this season and not be associated with it going into pre season where he can wield the axe from day one, create a clean mindset change after they’ve all had a break. I wouldn’t want to be picking up someone’s failure and having my name linked to it for the reasons to wanting to succeed in the season ahead.

Even if we’ve agreed, and he’s free they’ve wanted to time the announcement so to avoid an inevitable pile on as fans and media demand and question why they haven’t come in straight away?

Clearly causes damage in this period to season close, but if it was the right man being appointed it was a necessary position to take.

I think I’m stretching it, trying to convince myself Poch is the man, his and Jesus insta posts are teasing as I can’t really see them being a couple of WUM, they have too much respect for us.

 

[Timberwolf]

Indulge me, Is there any chance that we have our man agreed. And even if that’s one that is available, they have wanted to distance themselves from the shit show of this season and not be associated with it going into pre season where he can wield the axe from day one, create a clean mindset change after they’ve all had a break. I wouldn’t want to be picking up someone’s failure and having my name linked to it for the reasons to wanting to succeed in the season ahead.

Even if we’ve agreed, and he’s free they’ve wanted to time the announcement so to avoid an inevitable pile on as fans and media demand and question why they haven’t come in straight away?

Clearly causes damage in this period to season close, but if it was the right man being appointed it was a necessary position to take.

I think I’m stretching it, trying to convince myself Poch is the man, his and Jesus insta posts are teasing as I can’t really see them being a couple of WUM, they have too much respect for us.

Given everything we've heard from ITKs and journos I highly doubt it. Sounds more like we've got a bunch of candidates in mind but are waiting to interview/meet with them before deciding.

Sounds like you're stretching to create a narrative you want to believe in. Especially given Poch is about the only big name that we're widely reported not to be interested in.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Rodgers would probably actually do an alright job here tbh. He did an exemplary job at Leicester for a few years and his teams do tend to start off really strongly. His rep is at a low point right now as he stayed at Leicester for too long, but he's certainly not as bad as this season's results suggest.

However, almost the entire fan-base hates him as a bloke so he'd be a very unpopular choice, and I'm starting to wonder if he's now on the downhill slide? When he arrived on the scene he was full of new ideas but now the younger managers seem to be innovating a lot more, while he's doing the same old stuff. Plus he's absolute dog-shit in the transfer market and when his teams fall off the wagon, they fall off hard.

He'd be a fuck-ton better than Nuno, but I think our glass ceiling with him would be about 4th and he'd fall off after that.

Yea that is probably a pretty fair analysis of Rodgers. I'm not sure if he is on a downhill slide as such but it just seemed like his time and Leicester had run its course and to be fair they were screwed financially and had to sell Chillwell and Maguire and Vardy is no spring chicken anymore.

He did a brilliant job with Swansea, he got a Liverpool side with an incredible front 3 and an aging Gerrard and poor defence and squad depth to within a whisker of a title and playing some scintillating football, he absolutely smashed it at Celtic and he's done a pretty fine job at Leicester and won them the FA Cup.

My issue with Rodgers is purely that most of our fans and most fans generally don't like his personality that much, not that he is negative but that he is a bit of a joke at times and a bit smarmy and David Brentlike but in terms of his football management, tactics, man-management etc he is top class. I played with a guy he coached when he was youth team coach at Reading and he said even back then he was a phenomenal coach, meticulous detail and very good man manager.

Certainly not my first choice with quite a few good options out there but I can see why we'd like to interview him at least and I think he'd as you say be better than Nuno and for me a better fit for our club and model than Jose or Nuno were.

 

[Albertbarich]

Yea that is probably a pretty fair analysis of Rodgers. I'm not sure if he is on a downhill slide as such but it just seemed like his time and Leicester had run its course and to be fair they were screwed financially and had to sell Chillwell and Maguire and Vardy is no spring chicken anymore.

He did a brilliant job with Swansea, he got a Liverpool side with an incredible front 3 and an aging Gerrard and poor defence and squad depth to within a whisker of a title and playing some scintillating football, he absolutely smashed it at Celtic and he's done a pretty fine job at Leicester and won them the FA Cup.

My issue with Rodgers is purely that most of our fans and most fans generally don't like his personality that much, not that he is negative but that he is a bit of a joke at times and a bit smarmy and David Brentlike but in terms of his football management, tactics, man-management etc he is top class. I played with a guy he coached when he was youth team coach at Reading and he said even back then he was a phenomenal coach, meticulous detail and very good man manager.

Certainly not my first choice with quite a few good options out there but I can see why we'd like to interview him at least and I think he'd as you say be better than Nuno and for me a better fit for our club and model than Jose or Nuno were.

I can't remember where I read it and who said it but it said that Rodgers got rid of the physio and they then started getting loads of injury issues and also didn't want the scouting department because he knew best.

Exactly the type of manager we don't need. I know people don't like our medical team but my point is we need a coach to be part of a system as opposed to a one man band thinking they can do it all.

 

[Norgie]

Yea that is probably a pretty fair analysis of Rodgers. I'm not sure if he is on a downhill slide as such but it just seemed like his time and Leicester had run its course and to be fair they were screwed financially and had to sell Chillwell and Maguire and Vardy is no spring chicken anymore.

He did a brilliant job with Swansea, he got a Liverpool side with an incredible front 3 and an aging Gerrard and poor defence and squad depth to within a whisker of a title and playing some scintillating football, he absolutely smashed it at Celtic and he's done a pretty fine job at Leicester and won them the FA Cup.

My issue with Rodgers is purely that most of our fans and most fans generally don't like his personality that much, not that he is negative but that he is a bit of a joke at times and a bit smarmy and David Brentlike but in terms of his football management, tactics, man-management etc he is top class. I played with a guy he coached when he was youth team coach at Reading and he said even back then he was a phenomenal coach, meticulous detail and very good man manager.

Certainly not my first choice with quite a few good options out there but I can see why we'd like to interview him at least and I think he'd as you say be better than Nuno and for me a better fit for our club and model than Jose or Nuno were.

I'll probably get negged for this but I can't see the issue with Rodgers, I wanted him after Poch left or was it Nuno, so many have gone I have lost track. He is obviously a good coach and man manager and apart from this season has done very well. I'm not saying we should definitely go for him but I think some of the fan base are harsh on him because they don't like him and to be honest I'm not even sure why.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Seems like there’s been a briefing this morning

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Enrique doesn't quite feel like the right fit does he, compared to a Slot or Kompany etc.

However I wouldn't say he would be 'boring', his sides play nice possession passing football.

If the rumours today and yesterday are true that Slot has said no and Kompany has said no and Nagglesman prefers Chelsea and Poch is unlikely then who are we left with big Ange at Celtic vs Enrique vs Rodgers?

Tbh if it was out of one of those 3 I'd like big Ange from Celtic, plays very similar football/style to Pep's City and good character to inject some positivity and energy into the club and squad and I think he's worked with Munn before.

Enqirue I'd not mind but it doesn't quite feel like the right fit, Rodgers weirdly I actually feel ok about, he ticks a lot of boxes and if he brought Maddison with him then happy days. I suppose Potter is also another possibility, personally I'd rather Rodgers than Potter, I think Potter is out of his depth at bigger clubs.

The good news is that is a good 6-7 names all of whom play decent or much better football than our previous 3 managers and all of whom are a better fit for our club than our last 3 managers, the bad news is this is Levy and so we could still end up with Glasner or Galtier (both negative and not good options) even though there are a plethora of exciting options to pick from right now.

I must say i find it interesting that many say Enrique is boring yet want Kompany. Enrique actually streamlined Barca and made them a more direct unit moving the ball up the pitch fast, primarily via the full backs who would often sit high up the pitch. It was actually a big shift as prior to that everything went through the midfield. But as Inesta and Xavi were ageing/moving on Enrique had to adjust. They were still a possession team of course and still played a lot of intricate passing, but it was a big step away from the Pep tiki taka style. Enrique liked his teams to get the ball as close to goal as quickly as possible.

Kompany meanwhile plays a Pep slow and steady system which focusses on short passing rather then directness, essentially looking to control the ball and pass it around until a hole opens up for the team to exploit. I have seen many on here complain about this sort of football being incredibly boring. Furthermore he likes his wing back to ether tuck in to make a lopsided 3 at the back or move into midfield ultimately making ether a 3-2-5 or a 2-3-5 formation which i don't necessarily feel would suit ether Porro or Udogie. Udogie has operated from midfield before but both him and Porro are best in attacking areas imo so Komapny would need to adjust somewhat to get the best out of them.

Anyway, from a tactical point of view, Enrique is a lot more direct then people think. Again, not that i want him, but its unfair to paint him with the Barca slow and steady brush when in fact out of all the options we are looking at Kompany is the one that would most fit that label.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Seems like there’s been a briefing this morning

This is the first time we have heard anything about face to face meetings no? Lets see if he does us a powerpoint presentation as well.