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Beefyboy

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I feel like JN is short on options now though. Ancelotti isn't leaving, Jose to Psg sounds on (also given how he struggled at Bayern with big ego senior players not sirllure either party would be keen)

Feels like we have a clear run at him tbh.
 

Trees

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Yeah.... I fear that scenario too....appointing Brendan Rodgers would just be kicking the can down the road.
I don’t want Rodgers. However I don’t get the vitriol he gets. Nearly won Liverpool the league and won more with Leicester than we have in 15 years.
 

For the love of Spurs

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Nagelsmann is a generational manager.

I like Slot but there’s no comparison IMO.

Slot would have been someone we appointed back in 2014 like Poch.

We now have the infrastructure to try and compete with the big boys and I hope we go for the best young manager on the market.

If Nagelsmann is interested then it has to be him.

unlike Jose and Conte

- Attacking principles.
- works and develops younger players or did at RB and Hoffenheim.
- tactically flexible (ok Jose can be sometimes) and no one is going to call him a dinosaur.

Brings the benefits of an elite manager without the normal drawbacks. Far better option on paper than Tuchel, Jose or Conte for us.
 

Albertbarich

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unlike Jose and Conte

- Attacking principles.
- works and develops younger players or did at RB and Hoffenheim.
- tactically flexible (ok Jose can be sometimes) and no one is going to call him a dinosaur.

Brings the benefits of an elite manager without the normal drawbacks. Far better option on paper than Tuchel, Jose or Conte for us.
My favourite thing is he will choose a formation to suit the squad. The flexibility is key for us right now

With a slot for example we would be trying to convert wing backs into full backs but I think Naglesmann would look at the players and find ways to get the best out of them.
 
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Ghost Hardware

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Nagelsmann is a generational manager.

I like Slot but there’s no comparison IMO.

Slot would have been someone we appointed back in 2014 like Poch.

We now have the infrastructure to try and compete with the big boys and I hope we go for the best young manager on the market.

If Nagelsmann is interested then it has to be him.
Yeah you don’t go for Slot over JN. He’s a very exciting manager even if we will probably stick with 3 at the back. His methodology is very interesting. I do think he has some flaws but he’s by far one of the best possible options. No 2 on my want list so will be very very happy if it happens.
 

carlosspurs

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I feel like JN is short on options now though. Ancelotti isn't leaving, Jose to Psg sounds on (also given how he struggled at Bayern with big ego senior players not sirllure either party would be keen)

Feels like we have a clear run at him tbh.
Concern is whether his hearts in it. We don’t need another “I’m doing you a favour vibe” manager. I’m feeling a little bit like sloppy seconds 😂
 

Timberwolf

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Concern is whether his hearts in it. We don’t need another “I’m doing you a favour vibe” manager. I’m feeling a little bit like sloppy seconds 😂
I think if he were to come he'd need to commit to a longer contract.

None of the short contract, one-foot-in, one-foot-out bullshit we had under Conte.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I posted this before when he was fired but this is a good watch for those who want to learn a little bit more about him.

From the man himself…
 
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Nick-TopSpursMan

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I have one major concern with Nagelsmann and it’s actually the tactical flexibility. It’s quite right that a manager should be flexible and able to come up with a plan B but you can also go too far the other way.

One of the things I read is that players struggled as he constantly changed formation and tactics even within games themselves. This leads to confusion among players imo and also could potentially make you reactive as you’re always adapting to your opponent.

I would rather master a formation and style of play and then have a Plan B, rather than be changing formations every game etc.

Just a personal fear I have based on how I think players will struggle to cope with an overload of formations and tactics. I guess it could work if you have a very intelligent and flexible group of players.
 

Albertbarich

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I have one major concern with Nagelsmann and it’s actually the tactical flexibility. It’s quite right that a manager should be flexible and able to come up with a plan B but you can also go too far the other way.

One of the things I read is that players struggled as he constantly changed formation and tactics even within games themselves. This leads to confusion among players imo and also could potentially make you reactive as you’re always adapting to your opponent.

I would rather master a formation and style of play and then have a Plan B, rather than be changing formations every game etc.

Just a personal fear I have based on how I think players will struggle to cope with an overload of formations and tactics. I guess it could work if you have a very intelligent and flexible group of players.
I can see him turning Holjberg and Skipp into pressing monsters.
 

Guntz

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I think if he were to come he'd need to commit to a longer contract.

None of the short contract, one-foot-in, one-foot-out bullshit we had under Conte.

Yup, Nagelsmann needs to be given a 5 year deal and be told it’s his team to mould and we’re sticking by you.

I’m sure support like that would go a long way with him.

Then both him and Spurs know where they stand with each other - unlike Conte.
 

McFlash

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Thanks for responding though. I've been looking for a good argument against his candidacy. I'm still looking, but appreciate your thoughts.
Then you're either not looking hard enough, or are being wilfully ignorant because it's been well explained, many times by many people.
but here's an idea...TRY THE POCH THREAD!
 

Japhet

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I have one major concern with Nagelsmann and it’s actually the tactical flexibility. It’s quite right that a manager should be flexible and able to come up with a plan B but you can also go too far the other way.

One of the things I read is that players struggled as he constantly changed formation and tactics even within games themselves. This leads to confusion among players imo and also could potentially make you reactive as you’re always adapting to your opponent.

I would rather master a formation and style of play and then have a Plan B, rather than be changing formations every game etc.

Just a personal fear I have based on how I think players will struggle to cope with an overload of formations and tactics. I guess it could work if you have a very intelligent and flexible group of players.

A bit tricky for our players who've got used to absolutely fuck all changing week in week out. Poor old Bissouma spent months learning Conte's system and then next thing you know he'll be expected to turn back into an actual footballer.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I don’t want Rodgers. However I don’t get the vitriol he gets. Nearly won Liverpool the league and won more with Leicester than we have in 15 years.
Spot on mate. I think Rodgers just rubs people up the wrong way a bit but can’t fault his managerial career really, he’s done a good job everywhere he’s been he’s overachieved.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Nagelsmann is a generational manager.

I like Slot but there’s no comparison IMO.

Slot would have been someone we appointed back in 2014 like Poch.

We now have the infrastructure to try and compete with the big boys and I hope we go for the best young manager on the market.

If Nagelsmann is interested then it has to be him.
The 23 agrees and counting speaks volumes mate. I think if any chance we can get Julian N over slot then we go all out for it!!! But if we did end up with Slot I’d still be pretty excited about it.
 

Stoof

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Maybe I’m just feeling a bit battered by football recently but I feel that JN would feel like he’s doing us a favour. And, tbh, I’m kinda sick of those sort of managers!
 
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