Next Manager Watch

[Misfit]

Hope I'm wrong but I think it would be a minor miracle if we got a DoF anytime soon. Certainly don't think we'll get one before we bring in a new manager.

Think our main hope atm is that Munn knows what he's doing and is a positive influence on the manager recruitment process as he seems quite heavily involved if he's jetting around with Levy.

We'll have to ultimately wait and see.

I'm not sure you're wrong though, which doesn't exactly fill me with confidence. Beginning the process slightly out of order isn't the best start, circumstance or not.

I obviously have every digit available crossed for a good outcome. I'm just protecting my bruised little heart from people who have not earned the benefit of the doubt from me.

 

[king_yid]

Was just passing on. No need to get pissy. Hope the rest of your menstrual cycle goes ok. Thinking of you.

Weird post this

 

[WiganSpur]

I hope we don’t pick a manager at an absolutely crucial moment in our history just because he plays a formation that suits a couple of recent signings that have not even established themselves as key players for us yet.

We need to get the best out of our younger players as they're the future, 3 of which appear to be specialist wing backs. Plenty of top coaches available (talented in their own right) who would likely get the best out of them. I don't see how that's a bad thing? No ones saying back 5 or bust, just that it should potentially be a factor in a close race between managers as it would make the rebuild a lot easier.

 

[Chris Flynn]

Really hoping for Arnie. I'm a Slot machine. A manager who wants it, plays good football and dosnt think they are bigger than the club. Its a gut feeling but he's my no 1.

 

[parklane yid]

Slot was my number one however Amirom makes more sense.

our team is a million miles away from being able to play 433 and I honestly think 433 has been found out

 

[YIDfromtheLANE]

I hope we don’t pick a manager at an absolutely crucial moment in our history just because he plays a formation that suits a couple of recent signings that have not even established themselves as key players for us yet.

you’re suggesting our hierarchy with no footballing knowledge dictate the shape of the squad which the candidate will have to work with. Never.

 

[ShriekinKnight]

I hope we don’t pick a manager at an absolutely crucial moment in our history just because he plays a formation that suits a couple of recent signings that have not even established themselves as key players for us yet.

Exactly, especially when we are going to have buy at least 2 or 3 CBs in the summer anyway so the defense is being rebuilt no matter what formation we end up playing.

Plus if you have good enough CBs and a good DM you can have your fullbacks bomb forward (see: TAA and Robertson)

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

dosnt think they are bigger than the club.

I was thinking about this the other day - not Slot specifically, but the profile of a successful PL manager.


It almost seems like the most successful managers are the opposite of this - they actually do think they are bigger than the club. It does take a bit of charisma and a strong personality to manage a top PL club - just to keep the egos of the top players in line and pulling in the same direction.

In the history of the PL - arguably only Ranieri fits the definition of a more laid back, stay-out-of-the-limelight, type of manager. Everyone else likes to be the face of the club, and let everyone know it - Pep, Klopp, Conte, Mourinho, SAF, Wenger (its not a long list of PL winners).

It seems like you need to have a certain amount of gravitas to be successful. Maybe you can come into the league thinking you are just a cog in the wheel - but ultimately the successful managers are the ones who rise above that.

 

[SpursForever71]

Exactly, especially when we are going to have buy at least 2 or 3 CBs in the summer anyway so the defense is being rebuilt no matter what formation we end up playing.

Plus if you have good enough CBs and a good DM you can have your fullbacks bomb forward (see: TAA and Robertson)

having to buy, and will buy are 2 completely different things. Am sure we said the same thing last summer?

 

[Swalien]

I want Ryan Mason as our next manager. I want the club and fans to back him and give him time. Given time he can bring an identity and a mission back to Tottenham. I’m fed up of us following the other clubs and just chasing these fancy managers from the continent or ex Chelsea managers. What happened to “to dare is to do”. We have no identity and are just going from one catastrophe to another in a “to copy is to fail” mode. I also don’t understand why the fans would give more time (for failure) to these managers from other leagues compared to Ryan Mason, we should be proud we have a young English man, one of our own at the helm, but no we don’t we just highlight his shortcomings and dismiss his potential and ability, while salivating about the stats of these exotic mangers from other countries football leagues (dismissing their shortcomings). The blooming game is inside out it’s bonkers. What’s wrong with doing our thing for once rather than copying every other bleeding club and going for the shiny thing in the foreign leagues ?
Rant over.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

I want Ryan Mason as our next manager. I want the club and fans to back him and give him time. Given time he can bring an identity and a mission back to Tottenham. I’m fed up of us following the other clubs and just chasing these fancy managers from the continent or ex Chelsea managers. What happened to “to dare is to do”. We have no identity and are just going from one catastrophe to another in a “to copy is to fail” mode. I also don’t understand why the fans would give more time (for failure) to these managers from other leagues compared to Ryan Mason, we should be proud we have a young English man, one of our own at the helm, but no we don’t we just highlight his shortcomings and dismiss his potential and ability, while salivating about the stats of these exotic mangers from other countries football leagues (dismissing their shortcomings). The blooming game is inside out it’s bonkers. What’s wrong with doing our thing for once rather than copying every other bleeding club and going for the shiny thing in the foreign leagues ?
Rant over.

I don't know whether I entirely agree, but I love the feeling, the idea behind it, and the way you express it.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I want Ryan Mason as our next manager. I want the club and fans to back him and give him time. Given time he can bring an identity and a mission back to Tottenham. I’m fed up of us following the other clubs and just chasing these fancy managers from the continent or ex Chelsea managers. What happened to “to dare is to do”. We have no identity and are just going from one catastrophe to another in a “to copy is to fail” mode. I also don’t understand why the fans would give more time (for failure) to these managers from other leagues compared to Ryan Mason, we should be proud we have a young English man, one of our own at the helm, but no we don’t we just highlight his shortcomings and dismiss his potential and ability, while salivating about the stats of these exotic mangers from other countries football leagues (dismissing their shortcomings). The blooming game is inside out it’s bonkers. What’s wrong with doing our thing for once rather than copying every other bleeding club and going for the shiny thing in the foreign leagues ?
Rant over.

love this post and yea I think I’d rather we give mason a chance than a lot of these managers.

As I said before if we can’t get JN or Slot then Mason should come into the thinking for sure, no reason why if Kompany and Alonso etc are being considered that Mason can’t be.

 

[jay2040]

I want Ryan Mason as our next manager. I want the club and fans to back him and give him time. Given time he can bring an identity and a mission back to Tottenham. I’m fed up of us following the other clubs and just chasing these fancy managers from the continent or ex Chelsea managers. What happened to “to dare is to do”. We have no identity and are just going from one catastrophe to another in a “to copy is to fail” mode. I also don’t understand why the fans would give more time (for failure) to these managers from other leagues compared to Ryan Mason, we should be proud we have a young English man, one of our own at the helm, but no we don’t we just highlight his shortcomings and dismiss his potential and ability, while salivating about the stats of these exotic mangers from other countries football leagues (dismissing their shortcomings). The blooming game is inside out it’s bonkers. What’s wrong with doing our thing for once rather than copying every other bleeding club and going for the shiny thing in the foreign leagues ?
Rant over.

Our thing is not just hiring a manager because he is English.the world has moved on.....
I would not mind Mason though it has nothing to do with his Nationality or being English.
Being able to lure a top manger should be the aim, based on merit and vision as well as working with Levy!

 

[HedgieSpur]

I want Ryan Mason as our next manager. I want the club and fans to back him and give him time. Given time he can bring an identity and a mission back to Tottenham. I’m fed up of us following the other clubs and just chasing these fancy managers from the continent or ex Chelsea managers. What happened to “to dare is to do”. We have no identity and are just going from one catastrophe to another in a “to copy is to fail” mode. I also don’t understand why the fans would give more time (for failure) to these managers from other leagues compared to Ryan Mason, we should be proud we have a young English man, one of our own at the helm, but no we don’t we just highlight his shortcomings and dismiss his potential and ability, while salivating about the stats of these exotic mangers from other countries football leagues (dismissing their shortcomings). The blooming game is inside out it’s bonkers. What’s wrong with doing our thing for once rather than copying every other bleeding club and going for the shiny thing in the foreign leagues ?
Rant over.

With respect, I completely disagree.

I want a manager who is the best person for the job. Simple as that. Ryan Mason has not yet shown that he has the capability, experience or talent to be chosen over the other candidates that are under consideration imo. He has plenty of time to show the performance and progression that we all hope for and as I said in a previous post, it will be interesting to see if Mason, Defoe, Yahya, Carrick et al will be the next generation of managers getting top jobs. I'd like to see him and his own team take a role in the lower leagues to cement their experience and continue their development. Like it or not, Mason bears a small about of collective responsibility for the disaster this season (clearly not as much as Messrs Conte & Stellini) and I'd like to see him reflect on that experience and put it to good use as part of his development.

On your other point....I have bad news for you mate, football is now a global game and as such, jobs are no longer the preserve of English managers. Personally, I see this as a good thing and I welcome talent from wherever it comes from as long as they are able to show the requisite attitude, application and commitment to our glorious club. I get the sentiment of wanting to see a young English manager, but in my view, thats no different than me saying "I'd love to see more black managers, why don't we give JD or Powell or Yahya the job?"

In the end, we all just want the person who is going to give us the best chance of some silverware, while playing football that is aligned with our core values. If its a young, English manager..great!, If its a black manager...fantastic! But some of the most recent happiest times at this club have come under Jol & Poch, both who are foreign and both who were able to give us our identity.

 

[Johnny J]

it will be interesting to see if Mason, Defoe, Yahoo, Carrick et al will be the next generation of managers getting top jobs.

I had to do a search on Yahoo.

 

[Aleks]

Fkin hell guys let’s not get this thread closed again, yeah?

as much as I personally love having a thread about the manager hunt, but holy shit some of the crap I'm reading on here makes it quite apparent why it was closed

 

[Aleks]

We don't even know what style of football Mason plays as a Manager

I don't think we can afford finding it out right now

 

[piedpiper]

I know formation isn't everything but I just feel like the sooner we bite the bullet and transition to 4 at the back permanently the better even if it means a few rocky months getting players to fit it to start with. We aren't ever going to be serial winners we won't spend that way we just want to be entertained and win the odd thing from time to time. I just cant see any real entertainment coming from being constantly outnumbered in midfield and out pressed. This is why i'm not thrilled with the Amorim links.

For me it's constantly being outnumbered in midfield and inviting pressure on our defence as a result.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

We don't even know what style of football Mason plays as a Manager

I don't think we can afford finding it out right now

I don't think anyone knows what his style or tactics would be if he took on a full-time gig. He has been in 2 caretaker roles where he basically kept the same set-up with some minor tweaks.

That is part of the reason I don't understand the calls for him to take on the job. Its a big unknown.

I think Mason is a lovely bloke - but I have no idea what he is like as a manager, and I can't imagine many other people have any idea either.

 

[Aleks]

I don't think anyone knows what his style or tactics would be if he took on a full-time gig. He has been in 2 caretaker roles where he basically kept the same set-up with some minor tweaks.

That is part of the reason I don't understand the calls for him to take on the job. Its a big unknown.

I think Mason is a lovely bloke - but I have no idea what he is like as a manager, and I can't imagine many other people have any idea either.

I also feel like people are going crazy because of Arteta's success

Remember
1. He learned directly from one of the best, if not the best, managers in the league as his #2. Clearly he was going to develop a style referencing his.
2. Arteta finished 8th for 2 years, if he didn't win that FA cup he would have been fired 100%
3. He was severely backed in the transfer window


It just doesn't seem likely to happen with us in a similar capacity if we hired someone as inexperienced