Next Manager Watch

[wreckemspurs]

Biggest problem I have is we drag our feet with EVERYTHING.

Spend another month getting Manger X in. Manager X needs a month to assess the squad. Manager X decides what we need but we ran out of time. Don't worry we identified our needs and fix in January. January window is hard. Manager X gets fired because we have the same bloated underperforming squad.

Have some urgency for once FFS.

 

[PaulThurston]

I agree totally with Trix, I don't think he's ready yet but if for reasons outside my control it happens I will back him with every fibre of my being. if it all goes wrong then I'll do it all again with the next guy.

 

[GioW]

Can't be bothered to be negative about it.

If anyone thought we'd just hire Nagelsmann with no fuss or drama then I'm not sure they've been paying attention.

Just hoping we stumble upon the right appointment

 

[Timberwolf]

I'm a happily married heterosexual male but Alonso is a good looking chap. Has he always been so suave?


*edit - I suppose it would been hard to look suave in a Liverpool kit.

Doesn't matter how sexy they are off the pitch - on it every footballer is still essentially a full kit wanker.

 

[Bubble44]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

 

[C0YS]

City win so much because they make full use of their squad by constantly rotating which means everyone is comfortable playing alongside any one else. That means there is no drop off in performance whatever the starting 11 is..

Mate, their reserves pushed Arsenal into title contenders. They dont have a big squad but they have quality players all round. A cohesive style where everyone knows their roles helps a lot too, but its clear that we arent even on the same planet in terms of players we have at our disposal.

 

[Timberwolf]

Same scenario we've seen play out ever since the last days of Poch. Levy's delusion that all we need is a manager who'll get the best out of all these wonderful players he's bought and who've been underperforming for years.

Doesn't matter who Levy appoints. No one can succeed with this approach.

I get what you mean, but I think 'getting the best out of the squad we've assembled' does have to play a big part in the conversation, given where we're at as a club. Like, we've got money to spend, but not Chelsea, City or United money.

While it's clear our long term strategy has been various shades of muddled and fucked these past 4 years, we can't turn around and pretend we're the type of club that can drop like 200-300m in a window to support a new manager, off the back of spending ~200m across the past 2 seasons with Porro and Kulu still to pay for.

If Nagelsmann wants massive backing we shouldn't promise him the world like we did with Conte if we're not in a position to give it to him.

(I think this is a bit different to the late Poch/early Jose days when the squad was genuinely falling apart and Levy was convinced it was still amazing)

 

[Johnny J]

Oh and just to top it off I wouldn't rule Mason out as full time boss. I can't see another top manager wanting to have to reintegrate the cast off's and the need to sell before we buy bullshit. Also all those that have been shouting about how much we've spent over the last few years including the likes of Kulu and Porro, don't be surprised now if all those that we've signed but not yet completed on, are taken out of any upcoming budget.

I don't think I've ever been this disengaged and depressed about Spurs. I was hoping we'd at least get a fresh reboot of the football side with a new manager and DoF true to our values.

But what you've shared there - and, genuinely, thank you for sharing it and informing us all on what's happening behind the scenes - is just so demoralising.

I literally cannot stand to watch another manager try to reintegrate the castoffs and work with one hand tied behind their back when it comes to playing staff and transfers. I just cannot do it. Can't go through this whole cycle again.

What's sad is that if Levy took the right advice and a different approach, we could absolutely move into the elite club bracket in a few years, given our profile and infrastructure.

Sorry everyone that this has been a wholly miserable post.

 

[sidford]

"If Spurs do look to replicate the Arsenal way, who in turn are only replicating the Pochettino way with smarter recruitment, better backing and the silverware to boot,then Mason technically would be the closest thing to an Arteta clone, having been an assistant only before."

Great line from Alasdair Golds latest article .

Daniel Levy manager talks begin as Tottenham need to rip up and start again

Tottenham are continuing the hunt for their next manager at a time when the club needs to get back to basics and back to the drawing board

www.football.london

 

[allatsea]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

It seems at last as the word is out about Levy and not being trustworthy on his promises.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

If this is true, then im glad about this. I know it could well result in him not getting the job, but it seems this is the only way any manager will actually get what they want.

 

[Tyler24durden]

Levy is an idiot who believes he is right and everyone else is wrong.

He is incapable of learning from his mistakes and admitting he was wrong.

Poch was there on a plate for him but he won’t rehire him as that would be an admission of fault for getting rid of him.

Nagelsmann and Rangnick (dof) are available, exactly what we need and interested and he should be moving heaven and earth to sign them.

he should be handing them control for the football side, trusting them and letting them do it.

instead, he can’t concede control and wants to still buy who he wants.

he should just make himself manager as that is essentially what he wants to be, just without the responsibility.

easy to hide behind the sacked managers.

never been so despondent about our club especially with no integration of youth to the first team.

the likelihood of losing mundle and Moore is even more depressing.

Levy is simply incompetent at every level on the footballing / academy side.
He needs to go.

 

[Oscar22]

We still need to learn to take EVERYTHING with a big pinch of salt. No one can tell the fans exactly what is happening other than the people directly involved.

Newspapers, Articles, Twitter (especially fucking Twitter), ITK, the more respected journalists… none of it is 100% guaranteed. You’re 99% of the time not reading the absolute truth of the situation so to pin all your hopes on parts of it is why you then get upset and annoyed when that bit doesn’t work out.

It could be an absolute clusterfuck (it certainly has been in the past), it could be that they are literally in negotiations and they take time. It’s bot always as simple as you want that manager, you ask him out, he says yes. There’s a lot to go through. It doesn’t help that we’re at the end of a season where a lot of managers who have no affinity to spurs may want to see what comes up in the summer. It’s only because we’re all Spurs fans that we assume they should just say yes.

I do think we would be better off with Levy not running the footballing side, because I think over time enough decisions have turned out badly that we need a change. Equally, it’s far too easy to assume that because we haven’t got a manager yet (again, awkward time of the season) that it must be his fault and he’s dragging his heels and he’s doing this… and he’s doing that… I get it, no Levy could be a great thing for us, but you can’t just take it as read 100% because it was on the internet.

It’s worth discussion, but it’s not worth standing on the cliff edge yet.

 

[felmani26]

Nagelsmann has seen many a Spurs manager shafted on transfer policy - Levy's word cannot be taken.

 

[IamSpurtacus]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

Clearly had one eye on Conte's issues with transfer policy...!

 

[curlacious]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

Gentleman's contractual assurances

 

[HildoSpur]

Ali Z said:
On Nags I hear the hold up/delay is Nags wanting contractual assurances on Transfer budget and wages, maybe why so much other noise.

He is 100% right to do that as part of his contract so he can just walk with full payout if Levy doesn't deliver on his promises. Smart move.

 

[wadewill]

Sounds like Julian is a sensible bunny

And our twat of a leader now realises that and that's a red flag for him.

#levyout

 

[soflapaul]

The reality is this should have already been done. Been a fan of Levy the business guy but he has a fatal flaw. he doesn't know when to make a decision. The club is this close to going to the next level and he balks. He probably is the kind of guy that needs new tires on his Mercedes, haggles with a bunch of stores not knowing if he wants performance or comfort and settles on retreads.

 

[Misfit]

That last part is just disgraceful.

Am so bored of this club. What's the point?

You can see people in real time absorbing and coming to terms that JN is/was keen but probably won't end up here.

Levy will never change. He has no need to. It's as if 2021 never happened for many.

He's still the same guy who shortly into his tenure as chairman ignored the football guy he himself hired and went for a manger who lasted mere weeks before being replaced by the coach the football guy initially suggested. He'll never change.