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Bing

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There isn't, but there is something wrong with the board getting away with this yet again.
Getting away with what again? We appointed Conte and Mounriho at massive expense. Both flops.

I'm glad there's a bit of disagreement on it, a bit of spice to the appointment. Im sick of taking the safe route. We are just not going to compete with our current ownership taking a by the numbers approach. Universal consensus when we appointed Conte that we had done the right thing....this is it, finally we win things. Look how that turned out.

I want something different. Something outside the box, a fresh approach. Even if it's a failure we get attacking football and some entertaining games of football.
 

FinnYid

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That depends on why they've been dismissed.

Of course, just pointing out that talks / interviews ought to be deciding factor on any recruitment process for key personnel. Hiring football manager isn't any different in that perspective.
 

Timberwolf

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I think people are just sick of the constant negativity if I’m being quite honest. Speaking for myself, I’m sick of people being criticised and belittled for having a little hope too.

There’s any number of people I’d rather we were appointing than this guy. But it is what it is. There’s nothing wrong with people trying to see the positives in the situation.
Yeah Ange was about 4th or 5th on my list initially but the situation has changed and half the managers are off the table or clearly not being prioritised.

As a result he's now my number 1 pick of the remaining options so I'd rather look on the bright side and hope we get him rather than moaning about what we've missed out on.

That said, I think him and maaaaybe Enrique are the only 2 left I can bring myself to get much excitement about. Beyond that it's gonna feel a bit Nuno unless we suddenly go for Gallardo, Amorim or Nagelsmann but none of them seem remotely likely.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Which I will do and always have done. That doesn't happen on here though, and this is where I can be critical and honest without it affecting the team one iota.
I didn’t say you didn’t always support the team. There are plenty on here looking for this to be a failure though.

What is the answer then Trix? Who is the man to turn everything around?
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Thing about realism is we’re all just shitting in the dark here and hoping not to step in it. Nobody but nobody thought Harry Redknapp would get us to a CL QF when he was appointed.

None of us has a scooby really as to what makes a good manager appointment.

But we do know what to expect from our board, that’s the difference. You can be as optimistic about the manager as you want but if the board doesn’t step their shit up, we will still be a sinking ship with a new captain.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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I didn’t say you didn’t always support the team. There are plenty on here looking for this to be a failure though.

What is the answer then Trix? Who is the man to turn everything around?

I haven’t seen anyone suggest they want it to be a failure? I’ve seen people voice some very acceptable concerns about the appointment, and I’ve seen some people complain about how long it’s taken and we still haven’t a clue who we really want to manage the team but I don’t think anyone is looking for this to be another failure.

If there’s anything we can ALL agree on, is that we want what’s best for our club. That can sometimes come out in different manners but it’s the same intention at the end of the day. We all want our club to succeed and therefore any manager we appoint to succeed.
 

Trix

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Getting away with what again? We appointed Conte and Mounriho at massive expense. Both flops.

I'm glad there's a bit of disagreement on it, a bit of spice to the appointment. Universal consensus when we appointed Conte that we had done the right thing....this is it, finally we win things. Look how that turned out.

I want something different. Something outside the box, a fresh approach. Even if it's a failure we get attacking football and some entertaining games of football.
Taking 7 months to work out what to do (they still aren't 100%) and costing us European football, Is my most recent gripe.
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Getting away with what again? We appointed Conte and Mounriho at massive expense. Both flops.

I'm glad there's a bit of disagreement on it, a bit of spice to the appointment. Im sick of taking the safe route. We are just not going to compete with our current ownership taking a by the numbers approach. Universal consensus when we appointed Conte that we had done the right thing....this is it, finally we win things. Look how that turned out.

I want something different. Something outside the box, a fresh approach. Even if it's a failure we get attacking football and some entertaining games of football.

So what you’re saying with your last paragraph is as long as you’re entertained the results don’t really matter to you? There’s plenty of teams who’ve been relegated who had “entertaining” games of football. Would you be happy with relegation?
 

kthwlsn

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If it's not going to be Nagelsmann, how would Slot (who the majority here were on board with despite knowing very little about him a few months ago) have been significantly less of a risk than Ange?

As usual I could totally be missing something.
 

Trix

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I didn’t say you didn’t always support the team. There are plenty on here looking for this to be a failure though.

What is the answer then Trix? Who is the man to turn everything around?
So quote their posts? That way I won't think it is aimed at me.
 

davidclarke

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Getting away with what again? We appointed Conte and Mounriho at massive expense. Both flops.

My frustration is not about who but how this has happened - it’s a repeat of 2021 and this time they had at least 6 months notice, a massive gap in the middle of the season for the World Cup when a line in the sand could have been drawn, a decision taken, or at least a plan made…

If it’s Postecoglu then I’ll support him and the team, and maybe it will work out - but if it does, it will be through luck and not good decision making, I think that is clear
 

Johnny J

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I didn’t say you didn’t always support the team. There are plenty on here looking for this to be a failure though.
I disagree, respectfully. We had this narrative around Nuno too, that allegedly many people wanted us to actually lose so they could say "I told you so". Same with Conte.

I could be wrong but I think there are probably single digit numbers of people on here who want Postecoglou to fail.

Are there a few? Probably. But for all practical purposes everyone here wants us to succeed and win, whoever's in charge.

Thinking it's a bad appointment is another matter. Myself I'm not convinced either way. I hope he does well and I'll support him like everyone at our club.
 

KILLA_SIN

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If it's not going to be Nagelsmann, how would Slot (who the majority here were on board with despite knowing very little about him a few months ago) have been significantly less of a risk than Ange?

As usual I could totally be missing something.
They are all a risk and most likely all of them will fail here to me whats gone before is a better indicatior of what more of the same is to come
 

danielneeds

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But we do know what to expect from our board, that’s the difference. You can be as optimistic about the manager as you want but if the board doesn’t step their shit up, we will still be a sinking ship with a new captain.
Yeah, but that’s also why people pining for Nagelsmann need to realise that our board is just not gonna back managers who’ve been at clubs like Bayern and will expect the best.
 

Kirito

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If it's not going to be Nagelsmann, how would Slot (who the majority here were on board with despite knowing very little about him a few months ago) have been significantly less of a risk than Ange?

As usual I could totally be missing something.

Eredivisie is a challenging league, Feyenoord were not clear favourites to win, what Slot has done is on a completely different level.
 

specspurs

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Think that was Gary Cahill mate
Guus Hiddick managed Australia from 2005-2006 through the qualifiers and took them to the World Cup in 2006.
Tim Cahill scored two goals for Australia against Japan to give Australia their first ever win at a World Cup Finals.
Not that this has anything to do with our manager search and Ange, although I daresay that having been managed by someone as successful as Guus Hiddink, perhaps Tim Cahill, along with Harry Redknapp, can offer an informed opinion about Ange Postecoglou and his suitability to manage in the Premiership.
Think that was Gary Cahill mate
 

St José Dominguez

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The original “list” in no particular order from what I can tell has always been rumoured to be Nagelsmann, Kompany, Slot, Postecoglu, De Zerbi and Amorim. With Luis Enrique leftovers from Paratici reign and Poch being wanted by a lot of fans. It’s been a mess but this idea we’re going for option Z is utter bollocks. Fuck knows if Ange will work out, I think there’s big question marks, but he’s clearly been identified as someone, and rightfully so, who ticks a lot of the boxes we were aiming for with this appointment.
 
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