Player watch: Christian Eriksen

[wpmcg]

I like the series but its mostly staged, Eriksen is on £260K odd a week at Inter , possibly rising to £320K that is more than Kane. He ran his contract down, basically lying to the club on the way so he could exploit the situation for his own gain. I like Levy a lot but he is using the documentary to try and win over fans who want him out.

I don't think he lied, he hoped to go to Spain and it never happened. He has now discovered you can't just pick up your game when it's been off for two years. We can't afford 40 mil and 200K in wages for him. I would very much doubt if things can be sorted and I doubt he'll ever be as good as he was. 20 mil and 100K...then I'd take a chance.

 

[adamsky]

I actually think Levy would have paid Eriksen those wages so as to protect the asset. Letting him go for €20m costs more than the increase wages and we now need a replacement

 

[Donki]

How do you know that? There a few reports from laughable sources/websites saying that but there are also reports from more reputable sources that he is on closer to 125-150k a week. Eriksen made clear 2 years ago he wanted to leave, he said so publically. He didn't lie to anyone, he told the club he would not be extending his contract. The fact he wasnt sold then is down to the club, if the club felt he was more valuable to them playing for 18 months than moving him on I fail to see how you can blame the player for that. It's crystal clear that it was nothing to do with money.

Not for this thread, but I find the idea the doc is staged laugable, sure its clear everyone is aware the cameras are rolling and behave accordingly but the notion its all set up is ridiculous. Just because what you see does not fit with whatever narrative you have in your head does not mean that it's fake, it is possible that you are simply wrong.

“It is hard. It depends on the possibilities. If nothing pops up that is more exciting, then why not stay in Tottenham? If I then sign a new contract, it depends on the conditions.” That's what he said last June. As for the wages, wages are usually quoted after tax abroad while in the UK they are reported before Tax.

Christian Eriksen to join Inter after Tottenham accept €20m offer

Christian Eriksen will travel to Milan and have a medical early next week after Tottenham and Inter agreed a €20m fee for the midfielder

www.theguardian.com

"The Guardian now report that the Nerazzurri have agreed to pay Spurs €20m (£16.7m) with the 27-year-old expected to undergo a medical 'early next week'. As for the player himself, he has agreed to put pen to paper on a four-and-a-half-year deal, which will see him earn £260,000 a week. However, this figure could rise to £320,000 a week with add-ons." I have seen figures like this mention on Inter forums.

Man, if you believe those meetings aren't scripted I really don't know what to tell you, what do you think my narrative is?

 

[Gassin's finest]

Its taken some time to come to terms with it, but we're a different club and a different team from when Eriksen was in his pomp, and he saw that ages ago... which is why he wanted to move on.

We now have Lo Celso, Bergwijn, Hobjerg, Gedson, Ndombele(?) etc... A different type of midfield.

He won't be coming back.

 

[sausage]

Agree. The whole team were in a bad place resulting in the coach being sacked.
Eriksen sat through 2 transfer windows where no players were brought in and saw an entire defence being left to its final year of their contracts.
I'd have fked off as well.

By an entire defence, you mean two players? Toby and Verts?

 

[Rosco1984]

By an entire defence, you mean two players? Toby and Verts?

They were the entire back four when played together our fullbacks might as well play for the opposition

 

[wrd]

“It is hard. It depends on the possibilities. If nothing pops up that is more exciting, then why not stay in Tottenham? If I then sign a new contract, it depends on the conditions.” That's what he said last June. As for the wages, wages are usually quoted after tax abroad while in the UK they are reported before Tax.

Christian Eriksen to join Inter after Tottenham accept €20m offer

Christian Eriksen will travel to Milan and have a medical early next week after Tottenham and Inter agreed a €20m fee for the midfielder

www.theguardian.com

"The Guardian now report that the Nerazzurri have agreed to pay Spurs €20m (£16.7m) with the 27-year-old expected to undergo a medical 'early next week'. As for the player himself, he has agreed to put pen to paper on a four-and-a-half-year deal, which will see him earn £260,000 a week. However, this figure could rise to £320,000 a week with add-ons." I have seen figures like this mention on Inter forums.

Man, if you believe those meetings aren't scripted I really don't know what to tell you, what do you think my narrative is?

Yes a world class manager, a football player who obviously wanted to leave and proved it by actually leaving and a person that runs one of the biggest club in the world spend their time rehearsing scripts all to make Levy look a great guy. Eriksen was particularly invested in making sure Daniel came across just right.

 

[Donki]

Yes a world class manager, a football player who obviously wanted to leave and proved it by actually leaving and a person that runs one of the biggest club in the world spend their time rehearsing scripts all to make Levy look a great guy. Eriksen was particularly invested in making sure Daniel came across just right.

Ok mate , its all gospel truth. We are seeing what the club wants us to see, it doesn't take much rehearsing have we seen anything negative in the club AT ALL in 6 episodes? Eriksen was trying to put himself in a good light as he thought he was made a scapegoat and a "black sheep" in his last season at the club.

 

[wrd]

Ok mate , its all gospel truth. We are seeing what the club wants us to see, it doesn't take much rehearsing have we seen anything negative in the club AT ALL in 6 episodes?

There's a difference between what the club want us to see by driving a narrative through editing and actually scripting. As I said in the thread there's something spectacular that people think they're being wise because they think they're seeing something that isn't there.

 

[elfy]

“It is hard. It depends on the possibilities. If nothing pops up that is more exciting, then why not stay in Tottenham? If I then sign a new contract, it depends on the conditions.” That's what he said last June. As for the wages, wages are usually quoted after tax abroad while in the UK they are reported before Tax.

Christian Eriksen to join Inter after Tottenham accept €20m offer

Christian Eriksen will travel to Milan and have a medical early next week after Tottenham and Inter agreed a €20m fee for the midfielder

www.theguardian.com

"The Guardian now report that the Nerazzurri have agreed to pay Spurs €20m (£16.7m) with the 27-year-old expected to undergo a medical 'early next week'. As for the player himself, he has agreed to put pen to paper on a four-and-a-half-year deal, which will see him earn £260,000 a week. However, this figure could rise to £320,000 a week with add-ons." I have seen figures like this mention on Inter forums.

Man, if you believe those meetings aren't scripted I really don't know what to tell you, what do you think my narrative is?

Equally, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/christian-eriksen-close-to-agreeing-move-to-inter-milan-g6d37lggw

We had ITK, media reports saying clearly that Eriksen had told the club he would not be renewing his contract. What is supposed to say to journalist? Yeah, I want to fuck off. He was doing what every person in his position does with a journalist and avoid saying anything.

Not a chance the doc is scripted, zero.

Sure, the scene where Levy says to Eriksen that he would match any wages offered was clearly planned by Levy - he even looks at the bloody camera as he says it. But, that is exactly why its clearly not staged. That is what people not used to being in television do, you cannot take a bunch of footballers and businessmen, give them a script and expect them to deliver naturally. It's obvious.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't true Levy would have matched any wage offer, it seemed quite clear to me that Levy wanted it publically known that Eriksen did not leave because of money.

 

[wrd]

Equally, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/christian-eriksen-close-to-agreeing-move-to-inter-milan-g6d37lggw

We had ITK, media reports saying clearly that Eriksen had told the club he would not be renewing his contract. What is supposed to say to journalist? Yeah, I want to fuck off. He was doing what every person in his position does with a journalist and avoid saying anything.

Not a chance the doc is scripted, zero.

Sure, the scene where Levy says to Eriksen that he would match any wages offered was clearly planned by Levy - he even looks at the bloody camera as he says it. But, that is exactly why its clearly not staged. That is what people not used to being in television do, you cannot take a bunch of footballers and businessmen, give them a script and expect them to deliver naturally. It's obvious.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't true Levy would have matched any wage offer, it seemed quite clear to me that Levy wanted it publically known that Eriksen did not leave because of money.

Yeah I completely agree that people are aware they're on camera and so are saying certain things but the idea that it's scripted is so laughable. You only have to watch any advert man united have released in the last decade to see footballers can not be trusted with a script.

 

[Donki]

There's a difference between what the club want us to see by driving a narrative through editing and actually scripting. As I said in the thread there's something spectacular that people think they're being wise because they think they're seeing something that isn't there.

I don't think I am wise? I am stating what I think, there is no need to be patronising.

Equally, https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/christian-eriksen-close-to-agreeing-move-to-inter-milan-g6d37lggw

We had ITK, media reports saying clearly that Eriksen had told the club he would not be renewing his contract. What is supposed to say to journalist? Yeah, I want to fuck off. He was doing what every person in his position does with a journalist and avoid saying anything.

Not a chance the doc is scripted, zero.

Sure, the scene where Levy says to Eriksen that he would match any wages offered was clearly planned by Levy - he even looks at the bloody camera as he says it. But, that is exactly why its clearly not staged. That is what people not used to being in television do, you cannot take a bunch of footballers and businessmen, give them a script and expect them to deliver naturally. It's obvious.

It doesn't mean that it wasn't true Levy would have matched any wage offer, it seemed quite clear to me that Levy wanted it publically known that Eriksen did not leave because of money.

When I say staged the bit in bold is what I mean, I don't think there is an actual script, I apologise if that's what I said came across as. Its what I said before we are seeing and hearing things the club wants us to see.

 

[spids]

I like the series but its mostly staged, Eriksen is on £260K odd a week at Inter , possibly rising to £320K that is more than Kane. He ran his contract down, basically lying to the club on the way so he could exploit the situation for his own gain. I like Levy a lot but he is using the documentary to try and win over fans who want him out.

Let's be clear - Eriksen never lied to anyone - he was up front about not wanting to sign a new contract from day one and clearly wanted to try something new. I believe him that it was not about money but about a new experience. I think he really wanted Real Madrid or Barca but they never came in for him (probably as his form in the last 18 months was rubbish). If he'd played like he did in 2015-2018 he'd have been in greater demand. To say he lied to the club is not correct.

With regards to Amazon Prime, I was initially disappointed that Levy at no point seemed to be in dialogue with his agent and did not seem to know what was going on. I think the truth is that Eriksen and his agent were up front way before filming the series started and that Levy knew full well he was not extending his contract with us under any circumstances and would be leaving. Levy just used the Amazon series to make it clear it was not about a lack of an offer by him knowing full well why he was leaving. At the end of the day Levy did well to get 20M euros for him and I bet Eriksen is kicking himself for joining the wrong club - he should have waited until the summer and moved for free - he would have been in real demand now.

 

[Donki]

Let's be clear - Eriksen never lied to anyone - he was up front about not wanting to sign a new contract from day one and clearly wanted to try something new. I believe him that it was not about money but about a new experience. I think he really wanted Real Madrid or Barca but they never came in for him (probably as his form in the last 18 months was rubbish). If he'd played like he did in 2015-2018 he'd have been in greater demand. To say he lied to the club is not correct.

With regards to Amazon Prime, I was initially disappointed that Levy at no point seemed to be in dialogue with his agent and did not seem to know what was going on. I think the truth is that Eriksen and his agent were up front way before filming the series started and that Levy knew full well he was not extending his contract with us under any circumstances and would be leaving. Levy just used the Amazon series to make it clear it was not about a lack of an offer by him knowing full well why he was leaving. At the end of the day Levy did well to get 20M euros for him and I bet Eriksen is kicking himself for joining the wrong club - he should have waited until the summer and moved for free - he would have been in real demand now.

We shall have to agree to disagree, the truth is more than likely somewhere in the middle of both our opinions.

 

[WiganSpur]

“It is hard. It depends on the possibilities. If nothing pops up that is more exciting, then why not stay in Tottenham? If I then sign a new contract, it depends on the conditions.” That's what he said last June. As for the wages, wages are usually quoted after tax abroad while in the UK they are reported before Tax.

Christian Eriksen to join Inter after Tottenham accept €20m offer

Christian Eriksen will travel to Milan and have a medical early next week after Tottenham and Inter agreed a €20m fee for the midfielder

www.theguardian.com

"The Guardian now report that the Nerazzurri have agreed to pay Spurs €20m (£16.7m) with the 27-year-old expected to undergo a medical 'early next week'. As for the player himself, he has agreed to put pen to paper on a four-and-a-half-year deal, which will see him earn £260,000 a week. However, this figure could rise to £320,000 a week with add-ons." I have seen figures like this mention on Inter forums.

Man, if you believe those meetings aren't scripted I really don't know what to tell you, what do you think my narrative is?

I do believe he wanted a new challenge and was just being semi polite with those quotes, but I agree that there's no chance we'd have come close to paying him £260,000 a week and I don't necessarily blame Levy for being unwilling to do so.

 

[wrd]

I don't think I am wise? I am stating what I think, there is no need to be patronising.

You replied to me with "Ok mate , its all gospel truth." I don't think you're in any position to be complaining about being patronising. Though it seems you didn't actually mean scripted scenes in the traditional sense.

 

[Donki]

I do believe he wanted a new challenge and was just being semi polite with those quotes, but I agree that there's no chance we'd have come close to paying him £260,000 a week and I don't necessarily blame Levy for being unwilling to do so.

Also have to remember Italy has tax rule that allowed foreigners to pay less tax for the first two years they work in Italy, it was specifically designed to entice footballers, hence Ronaldo etc going there. I wasn't actually aware of this rule until looking into this today.

 

[Donki]

You replied to me with "Ok mate , its all gospel truth." I don't think you're in any position to be complaining about being patronising. Though it seems you didn't actually mean scripted scenes in the traditional sense.

I didn't mean scripted as in they rehearse their lines and do breathing exercises together. There just is a distinct sterile feel to the face to face meetings, the Eriksen one, the Rose one. It all feels a little flat.

 

[elfy]

When I say staged the bit in bold is what I mean, I don't think there is an actual script, I apologise if that's what I said came across as. Its what I said before we are seeing and hearing things the club wants us to see.

It's obvious that Levy was using the cameras at times, but it is not a 'warts and all' fly on the wall type documentary, it is in essense a PR puff piece (like every other of these type of football docs out there). You will only see the positives because thats what these shows do - it's not specific to Spurs. I've watched a few of them (I really liked the Sunderland one) and they are just light entertainment, they do not seek controversy or even complete honesty.

 

[Donki]

It's obvious that Levy was using the cameras at times, but it is not a 'warts and all' fly on the wall type documentary, it is in essense a PR puff piece (like every other of these type of football docs out there). You will only see the positives because thats what these shows do - it's not specific to Spurs. I've watched a few of them (I really liked the Sunderland one) and they are just light entertainment, they do not seek controversy or even complete honesty.

Precisely what I have been saying, I like it, I like Levy (I have been called a BSoDL manys a time), but I don't think we can use this as some kind of thing to suit any kind of narrative.