Player Watch Player Watch: Richarlison

[Timberwolf]

Was criminal to pay 60M for a squad playing striker when we had the need for starting centre half's. Think he is better than this season, but a Kane replacement then God help us next yr.

Thing is if Kane had got injured this season everyone would be saying it was criminal to not have a high quality back up in the team.

I think we need to give Richarlison a clean slate next season. Between his injuries, lack of minutes, Conte's system and screamers being called offside by millimetres...it's just been a clusterfuck of a season.

Let's see how he does under a different manager when he actually gets more than 1 game in a row playing in his favoured position.

We all saw in the World Cup how good he can be.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

You have just described Harry Kane

Sorry what?! Kane has loads of standout attributes.

Kane has elite hold up play, a superb touch, phenomenal movement and timing in and around the box and is a world class finisher on top of being a world class creator.

And unlike Richarlison, Kane is the 3rd highest goalscorer in PL history.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Thing is if Kane had got injured this season everyone would be saying it was criminal to not have a high quality back up in the team.

I think we need to give Richarlison a clean slate next season. Between his injuries, lack of minutes, Conte's system and screamers being called offside by millimetres...it's just been a clusterfuck of a season.

Let's see how he does under a different manager when he actually gets more than 1 game in a row playing in his favoured position.

We all saw in the World Cup how good he can be.

but will he get more game time - I hope and pray Kane stays and if he does then Richarlson is exactly where he is now getting the occasional chance and he is not one of those players who can come in and play (there aren't many of them) he needs game time and to play regularly - then unless you do like you did on Saturday and drop Kane deeper which would be a criminal waste - then his situation doesn't change - of the top of my head I can't think of many managers playing a central two up top and that's where Richarlson needs to play as out wide he is bang average

It's all dependent on Kane but Richarlson is not a Kane replacement nowhere near but then very few are or would be - but even if Kane goes we will be scrambling around in a very small market for a replacement and Richarlson would need to compete with that - personally I think he might go at the end of the season he is Brazil's centre forward so is marketable and we would get a decent price for him and lord knows there needs to be a turnover of players

 

[Timberwolf]

but will he get more game time - I hope and pray Kane stays and if he does then Richarlson is exactly where he is now getting the occasional chance and he is not one of those players who can come in and play (there aren't many of them) he needs game time and to play regularly - then unless you do like you did on Saturday and drop Kane deeper which would be a criminal waste - then his situation doesn't change - of the top of my head I can't think of many managers playing a central two up top and that's where Richarlson needs to play as out wide he is bang average

It's all dependent on Kane but Richarlson is not a Kane replacement nowhere near but then very few are or would be - but even if Kane goes we will be scrambling around in a very small market for a replacement and Richarlson would need to compete with that - personally I think he might go at the end of the season he is Brazil's centre forward so is marketable and we would get a decent price for him and lord knows there needs to be a turnover of players

I mean, if we could get, say, £50m for him then I don't think it would be the worst idea. He's a good player but I was always on the Raphinha train last summer as I felt we needed another more technical, creative option rather than the clumsy brute force of Richarlison.

However I do think he's practically guaranteed to get more minutes next season. It's almost impossible to find a manager more averse to rotation than Conte, and it's very likely we'll play with 4 attackers in the team which will help him get on the pitch.

I think Richarlison is bad as a right forward but I think he can do a decent job on the left - he played there loads for Everton and did quite well and has generally looked better than Son this season when he's played there (although that's not saying much..)

 

[djhotspur]

I mean, if we could get, say, £50m for him then I don't think it would be the worst idea. He's a good player but I was always on the Raphinha train last summer as I felt we needed another more technical, creative option rather than the clumsy brute force of Richarlison.

However I do think he's practically guaranteed to get more minutes next season. It's almost impossible to find a manager more averse to rotation than Conte, and it's very likely we'll play with 4 attackers in the team which will help him get on the pitch.

I think Richarlison is bad as a right forward but I think he can do a decent job on the left - he played there loads for Everton and did quite well.

I agree that’s what we needed, but we would have likely been raphinhas 4th choice. It’s very difficult to find pacey technical goal scoring wingers as everyone wants them.
look at the premium chelsea just paid for Murdyk.
It’s also why it’s so annoying arsenal got so lucky with having Saka coming through and martinelli costing next to nothing from Brazil second division

 

[curlacious]

Just watched the full match and thought Richarlison did well, involved in everything, set up the goal, close to a goal himself, plus finish for the offside goal. I don't see what all the fuss is about - he'll come good.

 

[djhotspur]

Just watched the full match and thought Richarlison did well, involved in everything, set up the goal, close to a goal himself, plus finish for the offside goal. I don't see what all the fuss is about - he'll come good.

I think he’s been good every game he’s played bar sheff United. He’s had a number of disallowed goals and we have actually looked a lot more solid when he’s played.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Just watched the full match and thought Richarlison did well, involved in everything, set up the goal, close to a goal himself, plus finish for the offside goal. I don't see what all the fuss is about - he'll come good.

he did ok but the key moment when he should have scored he misses a sitter which cost us 3 points which is what the fuss is about - we paid 60 million pound for a forward who in April is yet to score a league goal - which ever you dress it up that's a poor return - ' he will come good' I think people are entitled to ask when, and based on what? - because he has been fairly average in his time at Spurs

 

[Cochraam]

he did ok but the key moment when he should have scored he misses a sitter which cost us 3 points which is what the fuss is about - we paid 60 million pound for a forward who in April is yet to score a league goal - which ever you dress it up that's a poor return - ' he will come good' I think people are entitled to ask when, and based on what? - because he has been fairly average in his time at Spurs

I agree it's frustrating that we haven't seen much from him this season, but I think he will be much better in a system that isn't so negative and dysfunctional. It's worth remembering he's only played about 750 minutes of PL football this year with most of that being sub appearances and/or in his worst position (RWF). That's about 8 games worth of minutes and only about 90 minutes more than Doherty who hasn't been a Spurs player for 3 months and was injured most of the fall. His energy and graft is useful even if the goals aren't there. I think by way of evidence, the fact he has 43 premier league goals by age 25 shows he can produce at this level, he just needs to find some form and be in a system that isn't failing so spectacularly.

 

[DJS]

He would be first choice on left over Son for me at the moment as at least he presses and provides a more physical presence.

 

[bubble07]

He has been extremely unlucky and mismanaged this season. There are players that we just know won't cut it with us and richarlison is not one of them

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

The guy has less than 800 minutes on the season - due to injuries, and lack of rotation.

When he has played, its almost always been out of position, and as a supporting role on the wing.

Yet, he has 5 assists in 743 league minutes - which pro-rates to 20+ assists over a full season - which would be a PL record-setting season.


How about we let him settle at the club, get a run of games - in his best position, or not - and then get the pitchforks out if you insist. This constant need to rush to judgement is exhausting.

 

[felmani26]

I feel there's going to be some massive humble pie eaten in some quarters with regards to Richarlison, Bissouma and Porro come next season

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I feel there's going to be some massive humble pie eaten in some quarters with regards to Richarlison, Bissouma and Porro come next season

U mean we might stay up?

 

[Timberwolf]

I think he’s been good every game he’s played bar sheff United. He’s had a number of disallowed goals and we have actually looked a lot more solid when he’s played.

If Conte was picking on merit and suitability for the system Rich would've had at least twice as many minutes given how poor Son has been.

Everyone's focussed on his lack of goals, but the offside call against Forest was as stingy and tight a call as I've seen in the entire league this season. I think it's more of a freak coincidence that he hasn't scored rather than a real indicator of his ability tbh. Bit like the Bale no wins stat.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

You have just described Harry Kane

Ludicrous take.

barring explosiveness Kane excels at all of those.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

The guy has less than 800 minutes on the season - due to injuries, and lack of rotation.

When he has played, its almost always been out of position, and as a supporting role on the wing.

Yet, he has 5 assists in 743 league minutes - which pro-rates to 20+ assists over a full season - which would be a PL record-setting season.


How about we let him settle at the club, get a run of games - in his best position, or not - and then get the pitchforks out if you insist. This constant need to rush to judgement is exhausting.

we could sit here in silence or we can have a conversation about a player where no one is being hysterical and there are a few different viewpoints - its ok disagreeing its not exhausting at all in fact its interesting and refreshing to see people having different view - if you want exhausting conversation the manager stuff and Levy stuff could easily fulfil your needs

 

[dude573]

He is an easy target for 'flop of the season,' but as a lot of others point out, there have been a lot of mitigating circumstances against him.

 

[hero]

 

[mattdefoe]

He basically shows life after Harry Kane it’s such a drop down of quality when any other striker plays that isn’t Harry

in saying this richarlison has been a 2/10 so far even with Kane on the pitch with him