ramos- hutton is improving one of our weaker positions

[Bill_Oddie]

Love those figures. all such round numbers, too!

How have Man Citeh got EXACTLY 700,000? Is there a waiting list?

"Ah, yes, I'd like to support the Citeh"
"I'm afraid you'll have to wait for one of our existing fans to die, sir"
"What? Is there no other way?"
"Well, you could kill one of them yourself?"

And I fully refute the scum having over double the number of our fans. I seriously doubt they or Chelsea have more supporters than the Old Firm. And Norwich? Wolves? Boro? Do me a favour.

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

Maybe Ramos has been speaking to his coaches Gus, Carl. and Stophe... :think:

Think Chimbo will be gone in the summer - I actually rate him but think Hutton is better and reckon Chimbo will go as soon as someone takes an interest in him and, dare I say it, offers him money moola...!!!

Then Hutton can take the no. 2 shirt as prefer players to wear 1-11 when possible! :dance:

Carl. and Stophe know all

 

[Bulletspur]

Ranger's are a bigger supported club than us and I suspect far more people tune in worldwide to watch them then ever do to watch us, but they play in a crap league, have poorer players and generally play at level beneath us.

Would you say if things were reversed, the Spurs would excel more than Rangers in the SPL and Rangers would struggle more than us in the EPL ?

(A genuine question by the way, no sarcasm intended.)

 

[Evolution]

Spurs would win the SPL season in, season out

Rangers would be mid-table at best

 

[DC_Boy]

Ranger's are a bigger supported club than us and I suspect far more people tune in worldwide to watch them then ever do to watch us, but they play in a crap league, have poorer players and generally play at level beneath us.

well I suspect the opposite sloth - it may be that more rangers supporters watch rangers games on TV/computers world wide - but I suspect when you factor in Man u fans etc - more people watch a man u spurs game than say rangers aberdeen - ditto spurs chelsea arsenal etc
the only games that might match/exceed it are Rangers celtic - otherwise it'll be the spurs game most times I reckon

because the world wide reach of prem and indeed cups is so much wider - not just on TV but on computers too

rangers might be watched by a lot of supporters clubs world wide - more than us - but I bet most of our games edge it on the computers

for example will the spurs chelsea final be watched by less or more than the rangers game that weekend/or any game all season - including TV & computers

plus with regards to live attendances has hutton played in front of 90,000 for rangers this season? maybe he has in CL abroad - has he played in a game that grossed so much money on the gate - no chance

 

[dj_stu]

I have a feeling that Ramos actually rates Chimbonda. Maybe just not his attitude sometimes. Like him or not, hes better than lee and salty and can fill in at centre back if needs be. A danger from the setpiece, and at his best, capable of match saving tackles.

100% agree

 

[sloth]

Would you say if things were reversed, the Spurs would excel more than Rangers in the SPL and Rangers would struggle more than us in the EPL ?

(A genuine question by the way, no sarcasm intended.)

Transplant the current teams and Spurs would win the SPL at a canter whereas Rangers would be fighting it our with the likes of Birmingham to avoid relegation, indeed i suspect they would be relegated. However, if Rangers had the access to the same resources that the rest of Premier League clubs do then there is little doubt in my mind that within a very short amount of time they'd be challenging for the title and the top four positions, throw Celtic in the mix too and you'd have a very interesting league.

Spurs would win the SPL season in, season out

Rangers would be mid-table at best

You have no basis for saying that beyond blind faith in your own club's greatness and everyone else's crapness, Ranger's in the Premiership have all the attributes and some of a massive club.

 

[sloth]

well I suspect the opposite sloth - it may be that more rangers supporters watch rangers games on TV/computers world wide - but I suspect when you factor in Man u fans etc - more people watch a man u spurs game than say rangers aberdeen - ditto spurs chelsea arsenal etc
the only games that might match/exceed it are Rangers celtic - otherwise it'll be the spurs game most times I reckon

because the world wide reach of prem and indeed cups is so much wider - not just on TV but on computers too

rangers might be watched by a lot of supporters clubs world wide - more than us - but I bet most of our games edge it on the computers

for example will the spurs chelsea final be watched by less or more than the rangers game that weekend/or any game all season - including TV & computers

plus with regards to live attendances has hutton played in front of 90,000 for rangers this season? maybe he has in CL abroad - has he played in a game that grossed so much money on the gate - no chance

I agree with your assessment of the Premier League, I've already twice indicated how it differentiates us from the likes of Rangers. People tuning in for the Premier League however is not the same as people tuning in for Spurs. There will be far fewer people who call themselves Spurs fans worldwide than call themselves Rangers fans and far fewer tuning in specifically to watch Spurs (note I said Spurs not the Premier League) than will be tuning in specifically to watch Rangers. There's is no shame in admitting that, just as there's no shame in admitting Man Utd are a bigger club than we are. It also doesn't have to stay that way, who knows where we'll be in the thirty or forty years?

 

[DC_Boy]

I agree with your assessment of the Premier League, I've already twice indicated how it differentiates us from the likes of Rangers. People tuning in for the Premier League however is not the same as people tuning in for Spurs. There will be far fewer people who call themselves Spurs fans worldwide than call themselves Rangers fans and far fewer tuning in specifically to watch Spurs (note I said Spurs not the Premier League) than will be tuning in specifically to watch Rangers. There's is no shame in admitting that, just as there's no shame in admitting Man Utd are a bigger club than we are. It also doesn't have to stay that way, who knows where we'll be in the thirty or forty years?

yep I agree withat assessment of current viewership

but it does put into perspective the typical rangers claim that hutton was playing in fornt of more people at Rangers than he will be at spurs - that's just not the case (or it certainly isn't a given) - though it's true a lot of the audience won't be spurs fans

as I said I don't care if Rangers are bigger than us or not - I stopped those big club arguments years ago

to me what matters most are trophies quality of football played and quality of support (and there Rangers have it big time over us in terms of passion) and in the end even all of that is secondary to the fact that Spurs are my club and so the biggest in the world to me

 

[dannythomas]

Britain’s 20 Most Popular Teams
(Number of Supporters)

1
Manchester United
4,209,000

2
Liverpool
3,133,000

3
Arsenal
2,652,000

4
Chelsea
1,485,000

5
Rangers
1,430,000

6
Celtic
1,406,000

7
Tottenham
1,240,000

8
Leeds United
1,159,000

9
Everton
938,000

10
Newcastle
886,000

11
Manchester City
700,000

12
West Ham
691,000

13
Aston Villa
628,000

14
Leicester City
553,000

15
Norwich City
458,000

16
Middlesbrough
452,000

17
Southampton
429,000

18
Hearts
398,000

19
Wolverhampton Wanderers
384,000

20
Sheffield Wednesday
371,000



actually. you were right. :rofl: my mistake.

Interesting that with all their alleged " support " ( more than twice ours apparently ) whenever Ar5ena1 come to the Lane their support is so shit. Unlike ours when we go to their ground. It occurred to me watching Manure's support that it was so much better than theirs. In fact even Sunderland had better support than Ar5ena1's .How do you define suport anyhow- do you have to go to watch your team or if you are an American who has never been to a match in his life but supports Manure because Beckham used to play for them , does that count ?

 

[Dharmabum]

Ramos came out on Saturday and said that Hutton had a great game and will offer a big improvement in one of our weaker positions. Chimbonda must have been pleased to read that ! Or did he mean LB is even weaker since he switched Chimbs to play there ?

Got a link to that interview?

 

[batigol]

rangers and celtic are hugely supported worldwide. Only the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid, Barca and Inter have bigger numbers. And you're way off the mark with the religious bigotry comment mate. Yeah, its a problem in the west of scotland (though nowhere near as bad as the media will lead you to believe) and Norn Ireland, but outside of that its not really much of an issue. Dont get me wrong, i know spurs are a big team, but in terms of fanbase, they aint close to the Old Firm. Not many are.

Hmmm....you may have to qualify that statement again as the worldwide part is hard to believe. It is probably true if you leave Asia out of your worldwide which means it isn't really world wide then.

I'm Asian and I can honestly tell you that Celtic/ Rangers supporters can be counted on my fingers over here while EPL teams are very much widely supported in comparison. Guess what.....Asia is the most populated continent in the world. Maybe officially Rangers/ Celtic have a bigger fanbase but unofficially I would like Spurs equals or better them at least. Well, that's an Asian view judging from the people I see around me.

 

[dannythomas]

Got a link to that interview?

It was a quote from a match report. I think it was the Independent on Sunday but I read it on a plane to the US and so not 100% sure .

 

[Spurz]

Ranger who?

 

[DC_Boy]

Hmmm....you may have to qualify that statement again as the worldwide part is hard to believe. It is probably true if you leave Asia out of your worldwide which means it isn't really world wide then.

I'm Asian and I can honestly tell you that Celtic/ Rangers supporters can be counted on my fingers over here while EPL teams are very much widely supported in comparison. Guess what.....Asia is the most populated continent in the world. Maybe officially Rangers/ Celtic have a bigger fanbase but unofficially I would like Spurs equals or better them at least. Well, that's an Asian view judging from the people I see around me.

interesting BG - I really think a lot of Scots underestimate the worldwide pull of the Prem - because they tend to have an 'ex-pat perception' of relevant support -

I'd like to see how many people in China for example watch or follow Scottish teams - and that's the biggest population by far - it may be spurs don't have many Chinese fans either - but re my remarks earlier about world-wide viewership - I bet a lot more Chinese watch spurs than Rangers - and I reckon that figure will increase over the next decade

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

Told you I'd get it

 

[Kevealis]

Hmmm....you may have to qualify that statement again as the worldwide part is hard to believe. It is probably true if you leave Asia out of your worldwide which means it isn't really world wide then.

I'm Asian and I can honestly tell you that Celtic/ Rangers supporters can be counted on my fingers over here while EPL teams are very much widely supported in comparison. Guess what.....Asia is the most populated continent in the world. Maybe officially Rangers/ Celtic have a bigger fanbase but unofficially I would like Spurs equals or better them at least. Well, that's an Asian view judging from the people I see around me.

so asia is the most populated continent in the world, yet you know about the fanbases of every team in every country? Celtic have a HUGE following in Japan because they have Nakamura (not to mention new signing Mizuno...i thought he made football boots). Got plenty of gers fans from China on the rangers forum i use. And we are massive in the US and Canada. The Old Firm are huge worldwide.

 

[kishman]

I'm surprised there's no white patches on that shirt yet, Chris.

 

[Kevealis]

interesting BG - I really think a lot of Scots underestimate the worldwide pull of the Prem - because they tend to have an 'ex-pat perception' of relevant support -

I'd like to see how many people in China for example watch or follow Scottish teams - and that's the biggest population by far - it may be spurs don't have many Chinese fans either - but re my remarks earlier about world-wide viewership - I bet a lot more Chinese watch spurs than Rangers - and I reckon that figure will increase over the next decade

no doubt that spurs get more viewers in china...half the streams i use for football arefrom China! The EPL's tv rights are the only reason rangers and celtic arent as big as they once were. You get more money for being religated from the premiership than you do for winning the spl these days. The fanbase of all epl clubs worldwide is growning. Doesnt change the fact the old firm currently have a huge following.

 

[bomberH]

Told you I'd get it

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