Ratings vs QPR

[Blake Griffin]

http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/82...eague-2014-2015-Queens-Park-Rangers-Tottenham
Specsavers.
That's all I'm saying

is that meant to disprove what he said? lamela was on for 15 minutes, misplaced three passes, was dispossessed twice and had one "unsuccessful touch" which i'm guessing was the one that went out of play.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

So then anyone with a brain can see Walker can't either

Go check the Lamela thread, in there you've got people who let him get away with it because he 'plays the Poch way', and people who admit they overhype his performances to make them seem better and deride his competitors in the team to make them seem worse.

 

[iluvsteffenfreund]

Sorry are you a supporter?
Did Lamela knick your women?
Give it a rest.

You didn't see his little cameo then? Take your blinkers off

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I hope we don't have to appoint another Captain because it will mean Hugo is no longer here...

I agree, I'm not sure why the talk of next captain started really, I don't think we have anyone naturally in line, and if the reports are true in that Lloris takes team talks and is more than vocal then I don't think we have a problem at the moment.

 

[jezz]

is that meant to disprove what he said? lamela was on for 15 minutes, misplaced three passes, was dispossessed twice and had one "unsuccessful touch" which i'm guessing was the one that went out of play.

Is that what Freud said?

 

[Chris12]

Go check the Lamela thread, in there you've got people who let him get away with it because he 'plays the Poch way', and people who admit they overhype his performances to make them seem better and deride his competitors in the team to make them seem worse.

Okay and that's all dandy, but if Lamela can't get away with it then neither can Walker. So do they both get away with it or are they both culprits?

 

[parklane1]

He captained Ajax I believe.

And his country on occasion.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Okay and that's all dandy, but if Lamela can't get away with it then neither can Walker. So do they both get away with it or are they both culprits?

I think you've got me a bit wrong, I don't want either of them to get away with it, my post was about the double standards. As in, it's ok for one and not the other. In my eyes they are both culprits and we need to do better on both, which I think I have already alluded to. Problem is, it's easier to upgrade a forward than a RB.

 

[Chris12]

I think you've got me a bit wrong, I don't want either of them to get away with it, my post was about the double standards. As in, it's ok for one and not the other. In my eyes they are both culprits and we need to do better on both, which I think I have already alluded to. Problem is, it's easier to upgrade a forward than a RB.

Oh thought you were trying to excuse Walker's poor performances of late. My B.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

This:



I assumed is bringing Dawson into the mix. I don't want to get into that debate, and I know you aimed it at all Spurs fans, but from a personal point of view all I can say is that's just bollocks.

Fair enough, I wasn't really aiming that at you, but I think it applies to some.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Go check the Lamela thread, in there you've got people who let him get away with it because he 'plays the Poch way', and people who admit they overhype his performances to make them seem better and deride his competitors in the team to make them seem worse.

What a load of utter bollocks. I don't think I've read a single post that says Lamela is wonder bread (like some of the silly bollocks we used to get ion here about Walker being destined for Barca) or the real deal. The best anyone does is make a case for why he should be picked ahead of Townsend (or Lennon when he was here). Logical but boring stuff like he will work hard without the ball compared to Townsend's lazy crap, and he can play a through ball once in a while.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

is that meant to disprove what he said? lamela was on for 15 minutes, misplaced three passes, was dispossessed twice and had one "unsuccessful touch" which i'm guessing was the one that went out of play.

It was probably a quick attempt to try and argue against that Lamela put us under the cosh in the final 15 minutes more than we would have been. Which is bollocks.Might not have been the best rebuttal but he was bought on to harry players so they couldn't pick their long balls into the box, to press and to add some energy where we were getting pegged back. That control that went out of play was very very shit. In other instances where there were a couple of passes intercepted, that's all they were. They werent huge brain farts,

It's just another example of someone trying to criticise Lamela on a day where we didnt play well and he was on the pitch for 15 minutes, or in other words with this particular poster-an example of an agenda which he has visibly shown that he has for several players both negatively and positively (Mason/Lamela and Dembele).

Its mindless shit that gets peoples backs up. Where there is an obvious dislike for someone that you need to try and reinforce to everyone else. It's bloody frustrating.

And before anyone jumps on this, no I'm not saying everyone does this and I am not aiming the sentiment at you either.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Oh thought you were trying to excuse Walker's poor performances of late. My B.

I don't think you got him wrong at all, that's exactly what he was doing, only halfway through he forgot how indignant with rage he was about the terrible miscarriage of justice being perpetrated on the poor millionaire dimwit.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

What a load of utter bollocks. I don't think I've read a single post that says Lamela is wonder bread (like some of the silly bollocks we used to get ion here about Walker being destined for Barca) or the real deal. The best anyone does is make a case for why he should be picked ahead of Townsend (or Lennon when he was here). Logical but boring stuff like he will work hard without the ball compared to Townsend's lazy crap, and he can play a through ball once in a while.

Seriously mate, I can't really be arsed with you. Read. The fucking. Thread.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Oh thought you were trying to excuse Walker's poor performances of late. My B.

Well no, this is the ratings thread for the QPR game. I said he wasn't as poor as some had claimed, and certainly not worthy of the piece by piece assassination of his performance that he had been subjected to when similar could be aimed at other players. Problem is, when you level the accusation of favouritism at some they get a wee bit too excited, and realise they cant really respond on the subject at hand so have to go off at a bit of a tangent.

Basically, the Lamela comparison (which was wrong, as some people literally cannot fathom any sort of criticism no matter how minute) was along the lines of the double standards. If you read his thread, you'll see people defend his non-performances by claiming he is playing the game how Poch wants it to be played. My comparison was that if it's good for one, it must be good for the other. In reality, neither Walker or Lamela are good enough in the current setup, but it's a conundrum we are stuck with at the moment.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

It was probably a quick attempt to try and argue against that Lamela put us under the cosh in the final 15 minutes more than we would have been. Which is bollocks.Might not have been the best rebuttal but he was bought on to harry players so they couldn't pick their long balls into the box, to press and to add some energy where we were getting pegged back. That control that went out of play was very very shit. In other instances where there were a couple of passes intercepted, that's all they were. They werent huge brain farts,

It's just another example of someone trying to criticise Lamela on a day where we didnt play well and he was on the pitch for 15 minutes, or in other words with this particular poster-an example of an agenda which he has visibly shown that he has for several players both negatively and positively (Mason/Lamela and Dembele).

Its mindless shit that gets peoples backs up. Where there is an obvious dislike for someone that you need to try and reinforce to everyone else. It's bloody frustrating.

And before anyone jumps on this, no I'm not saying everyone does this and I am not aiming the sentiment at you either.

Hang on though, forgetting Lamela for a minute, surely a brainfart is a brainfart no matter where it happens on the pitch?

You're doing that 'over-defensive' thing again, my criticism wasn't even really aimed at Lamela, it was aimed more at the posters.

 

[double0]

Sorry, I have to get it off my chest. Ledley King was a fucking great captain

 

[Chris12]

Well no, this is the ratings thread for the QPR game. I said he wasn't as poor as some had claimed, and certainly not worthy of the piece by piece assassination of his performance that he had been subjected to when similar could be aimed at other players. Problem is, when you level the accusation of favouritism at some they get a wee bit too excited, and realise they cant really respond on the subject at hand so have to go off at a bit of a tangent.

Who went off on a tangent?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Who went off on a tangent?

Silly Old Harry wasn't it?

 

[Gilzeanking]

I feel a little bit out of synch with most ratings here . What is 'lucky' ? . You call heads , the coin is flipped it comes up heads . Is that lucky ?

Lets say 7 out of 10 times Austin puts his easy chance away rather than hits the bar...7 out of 10 times a ref would give a pen for Bent's handball . Yes we had some fairly close calls too ,but Mason shutting his eyes and just blasting the ball for his goal will go wrong a few times in 10 imo .

Looking from this perspective , I'd say overall we won the match as if we called heads on a coin flip and it came up heads .

QPR's last win was some time ago , they are in the relegation zone . We battled hard against their aggression which is pleasing to see in a Spurs team , but this match was very , very close . So easily could it have been a draw...

...and this thread would then look completely different (performance ratings always seem heavily affected by the result )

Good bits of passing here and there ,good effort (considering fixture pile up )and a robust response to aggression ..

..but we just scraped through and we can't keep expecting heads to come up when the coin is flipped . Lets hope the more sensible fixture pace from now on will see us winning more convincingly .