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wizgell

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Aurier did come across really well, which marries with what the Amazon guys said to me, one of them said the player he most enjoyed working with was Serge. Said he has a really infectious personality that just makes you smile.
 

Gb160

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They started filming the day of Bayern, our worst European result in history and yet we see nothing of the internal enquiry. I was told by the Amazon crew I met that being at the training ground it was clear something wasn't right amongst the players/manager and yet we see none of that?
Mate this isn't a warts and all documentary, it's a club sanctioned docuseries/PR piece.
Anyone expecting shocking revelations and fistfights is going to be disappointed.
 

stov

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Levy is bizarre ,doesn't convince about his love for the game never mind Spurs.His conversations with Jose are like some weird pervy uncle thing!!!
Hes not usually in front of the camera, so I took it to be camera shy awkwardness. I'd probably be the same.
 

wizgell

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Narrator: Jan's visiting North Enfield food bank. The organisation helps out low income families in the area and with Christmas just around the corner it's much needed help for local families. After five years helping out Jan's built up quite a connection with the team there.
FB Employee 1: Lovely goal Saturday, Jan! Legend!
Jan: Thanks.
FB Employee 2: Can you sign this photo, please? There's four of them.
Jan: Sure.
FB E2: It's for my grandaughters. They live in Holland. Do you know <Dutch town>?
Jan: Yeah, I think I've passed it.
FB E1 (after having photo taken with Jan): Go smash Chelsea on Sunday!
Jan: Haha. We will try.

Did the director/producer specifically tell everyone to act like they'd never met before? I know there's someone posts here who (i think) works at another food bank but their visit didn't make the cut. Just that after that intro of 'quite a connection' it was a hilariously stilted scene. Why are these people who've known him for ages asking for photos and autographs?

That will be :)

From what I understand Jan does 'regularly' visit the food bank at Enfield (And yes they didn't include my star performance down the road in Tottenham) however I don't know how regular that is. Also with the volume of volunteers that come through doors of food banks it's entirely possible that many had never met him before. I personally have visited Enfield FB and only recognised two people in the group stood outside with him (the manager and the receptionist).

They may well have also been a mixture of clients and volunteers- I suspect the guy having his photo taken may well have been a client.


EDIT: Just to add my little bit on the conduct of the crew etc

I was the point of contact between the clubs Head of PR and the food bank. The club contacted me a few weeks before informing us that the squad had a donation to deliver to the food bank for Xmas, they told me that Jan would be in attendance and asked us to not inform anyone outside of our team, club photographer would be there and those photos would be the ones used etc.

They then called me the week before to ask if it would be ok if Amazon could come along too. They then called again to say that Jan had a Belgian documentary crew following him and they may be there too but was unconfirmed at that stage (they didn't come).

When they arrived, 2 hours ahead of schedule (Which resulted in me breaking the 20mph limit in Haringey to get there from my office), there were 3 of us there to greet them, as the rest of our volunteers had been booked to come in at the previously agreed time of arrival. Spurs had asked if clients would be there, but the day they wanted to come was a day the food bank was closed (unlike Enfield that was open, hence the large numbers clambering outside to meet JV)

The Head of PR and Jan were unloading the van with us, we stood chatting in the van for a bit (as I alluded to in my thread about the day) and the Amazon crew were just in the background filming without any involvement.

It wasn't until the club photographer had finished and Jan and the PR team had left that the Amazon crew spoke to us. That's when we had to film the release forms etc and I tried to get as much out of them as possible about what they had seen.

There was no direction, no staging or anything like that, they truly were 'flies on the wall' for the duration of the clubs visit.
 
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Gb160

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That will be :)

From what I understand Jan does 'regularly' visit the food bank at Enfield (And yes they didn't include my star performance down the road in Tottenham) however I don't know how regular that is. Also with the volume of volunteers that come through doors of food banks it's entirely possible that many had never met him before. I personally have visited Enfield FB and only recognised two people in the group stood outside with him (the manager and the receptionist).

They may well have also been a mixture of clients and volunteers- I suspect the guy having his photo taken may well have been a client.
Not to mention the guy they were referring to was the older bloke in the back of the van unloading it, who just carried on as normal.
 

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Watched the first episode. I genuinely watered up at Poch section but there was one scene in the canteen where he looked lost. That just hurt.

Mourinho saying stuff that needed to be said to players was refreshing. It makes me want him to succeed and I'm not a fan of Jose

"watered up"? Get a grip!
 

wizgell

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He is a regular actually, so yeah
In all fairness, despite the fact I was buzzing to meet Jan I was there to represent my organisation so couldn't go all fan girl. The two guys I work with on the FB aren't interested in football at all so they just unloaded and left the talking to me. Clearly my lack of excitement/clambour went against me in terms of making the cut :banghead:
 
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"watered up"? Get a grip!

I would definitely agree that people having emotional turmoil over watching Poch looking bored whilst Jesus slowly eats his breakfast are over-reacting.

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We've all been this guy at the breakfast table at some point. Normally on holiday when the excursion is leaving in 5 mins but your mrs is cutting her toast with a blunt knife like there's nothing on the agenda.

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wizgell

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The whole Poch section was disappointing and was very carefully edited to avoid showing us anything but poor results and sad faces
 
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The whole Poch section was disappointing and was very carefully edited to avoid showing us anything but poor results and sad faces

I don't know if you recall, but there wasn't anything but that between the CL final and Poch leaving, bar the Red Star match that they showed.
 

wizgell

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I don't know if you recall, but there wasn't anything but that between the CL final and Poch leaving, bar the Red Star match that they showed.
No interaction between players and coach? No discussions between Levy and Poch? No fly on the wall moments of team meetings?

But under the new regime we see a chairman constantly sat with manager, players regularly in meetings, players regularly chatting in communal spaces.
 

myhartlane

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This is a really bland show with only a few interesting titbits and insights into who our players actually are in real life - that is the only thing that keeps me watching, being already emotionally invested in them.

For a neutral, however, there is little to make you want to play the next episode unless you worship Mourinho. The guy loves the cameras so much I think it very likely played some part in him being here now, from the point of view of both Mourinho and Levy. Mourinho is a total complete narcissist. I can imagine it has a lot of currency in a job like that - but those traits mean you are a fool in the rest of life. That conversation between Kane and Mourinho is his office, telling Kane he can make him 'explode' had me in stitches.

This show is a blatant club PR stunt, with particular focus on re-branding Levy. We learn he just really really cares about Tottenham. Yunno - not just the club, and bringing the fans success, but also the locality, and especially all those poor struggling locals living at or below the poverty line. We already know wants to help them by buying up all the land and housing stock and playing property developer. That's right - the best way to regenerate the area is simply to move rich people in and scatter the annoying poor people to the wind.

In another scene Levy is utterly perplexed with the breakdown of Eriksen's commitment to Spurs. It is unresolvable we learn because there is just no contact from Eriken's agent. He asks Mourinho if he can use his clout to have a word and convince him to sign that new contract. Levy asks, 'Maybe you can try one more time to work some Jedi mind shit on him, Jose?.. and get him to sign that contract for £40 a week plus a free travelcard?'

Incidentally, the very brief time we get to listen to Eriksen, he comes across as the most inteligent and thoughtful of all the players we get to hear. Contrast that to Dele's dumb blonde toothpaste moment and you can see that the young instagram generation is well and truly fucked and dumbed down. The future looks bright...
The toothpaste conversation is the sort of banal conversation that happens in every workplace in the world.
 
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No interaction between players and coach? No discussions between Levy and Poch? No fly on the wall moments of team meetings?

But under the new regime we see a chairman constantly sat with manager, players regularly in meetings, players regularly chatting in communal spaces.

That was apparently how it went. There was ITK and various articles with well-connected journos and interviews with people basically saying that Poch went completely withdrawn and would spent most of his time in his office and not speaking to players (and something about watching training footage). Everything then and now points towards the squad being completely dejected.

I think what is shown is likely to be saving him far more than the additional footage would have.


Edit: found one of them here https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...icknamed-Mauricio-Pochettino-Big-Brother.html
 
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Gb160

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In all fairness, despite the fact I was buzzing to meet Jan I was there to represent my organisation so couldn't go all fan girl. The two guys I work with on the FB aren't interested in football at all so they just unloaded and left the talking to me. Clearly my lack of excitement/clambour went against me in terms of making the cut :banghead:
Be honest...you fainted didn't you?
 

wizgell

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Be honest...you fainted didn't you?

:) Can see it now

Tom Hardy: Jan Vertonghen is spending time donating food to local food banks who support the community around the stadium

Cuts to footage of me face first on the floor

Tom Hardy: This prick just passed out, what a melt!



The time Ledley came to work I almost did I can't lie. After formally introducing myself, I found myself stood next to him a bit later on not knowing what to do or say, so my boss asked him if he would take a photo with me (my avi) and then he signed the shirt for me.
 

wizgell

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Funny story about Tom Hardy, completely unrelated to the doc but....

A mate of mine, also Tom, is a stage actor and has had a few TV/ad cameos

Was once having a drink after a show and was introduced to a friend of a friend also called Tom.

Mate Tom asked new Tom what he did for a living and it turned out they both were actors. Mate Tom asked new Tom if he had any work recently and new Tom replied 'I've just finished filming Mad Max' to which mate Tom patronisingly congratulated him on getting a role in such a big film.

New Tom left shortly after, for mate Tom to be informed 'you do realise you just completely mugged off Tom Hardy right?'
 
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