Spurs blow as Dawson may miss the next three weeks

[That Guy]

He has been poor I will agree with that but there is no need for the constant shit some players get.

 

[SpurSince57]

And Ramos has continued to pick him. Clearly, he, and Jol before him, have far less idea of what they're doing than some SC members.

 

[MrWoolley]

He has been poor I will agree with that but there is no need for the constant shit some players get.

Yep. Unfortunatly the 'hate' trend has gone from Robinson to Dawson. And it is a 'hate' trend, because some of the comments made about him are absolutly pathetic and dis-respectful.

It's a shame he wont be in the squad for cup final day, he's one of the players who most deserves it for his effort over the last few seasons.

 

[N10toN17]

And Ramos has continued to pick him. Clearly, he, and Jol before him, have far less idea of what they're doing than some SC members.

He does play him SS, but would he play him if Woody and the King were fit and available? kaboul looks a better long term asset to me than Dawson, but time will tell.

I'm also fairly confident Ramos will bring in another CB in the summer, which all adds up to Daws dropping down the pecking order or deciding he wants a move, again time will tell.

Dawson is a premiership quality centre half, no doubt about it, but is he good enough for what we aspire? I want King and Woody class centre backs, do the rest match up? I don't think so, kaboul is the only one with a chance of attaining that level and I have major doubts he can reach that level either.

 

[Kendall]

And Ramos has continued to pick him. Clearly, he, and Jol before him, have far less idea of what they're doing than some SC members.

Maybe, maybe, but you said the same about Robinson. We were calling for his head a long while back, yet Jol refused to drop him, ramos had a good look at hime and then decided enough is enough and dropped him. So maybe some SC-ers are right?

Perhaps the same will happen with Dawson should he continue to make costly errors.

We are surely entitled to our own opinions and in some cases, they may well be right.

 

[bubble07]

Apart from bale we should be full strength (if of #coursew we pick up no injuries against slavia). If we don't pick up injut#ries I don't even think dawson would make the bench as the likes of zokora, hudd and chimbonda will be ahead of him due their versatility

CERNY
HUTTON WOODGATE KING GILBERTO
LENNON JENAS O'HARA MALBRANQUE
BERBATOV KEANE​

Subs: Robinson Chimbonda Zokora Huddlestone Bent

DROGBA ANELKA
J.COLE LAMPARD ESSIEN WRIGHT-PHILLIPS
A.COLE CARVALHO TERRY BELETTI
CECH​

Subs: Cudicini Alex Makalele Ballack Kalou​

 

[SpurSince57]

I doubt it, but as Juande has continued to pick him ahead of Kaboul and Rocha since the United game, for the moment he does seem to be number three—although it is, admittedly, far more difficult to work out Juande's preferences for certain positions than it was Martin's.

Dawson's biggest problem is that he was wildly over-praised in his first season, and pretty much ring-fenced from criticism, although his errors cost us more goals than the much-maligned Stalteri's (in fact, if it hadn't been for Stalteri and King protecting him, Dawson would have cost us several more). Now we seem to be getting a reaction, and it's hero-to-zero time again. And, as Mr W. says, a lot of the rubbish that's been posted about him has been absolutely pathetic; not criticism, but abuse.

And Bugsdad may have seen every CB/CH we've had since Big Maurice. So have I, and there have been plenty worse than Dawson.

 

[Kendall]

Oh I agree in general, but we're not that team anymore. It's kinda like not beging able to say Defoe was inneffective, when we've seen Doherty up front...it's kinda beside the point.

He has been making consistent errors all season, and I think we're right to judge him on that. In fact, I didn't actually think he was that god last season, but you couldn't fault his commitment.

 

[SpurSince57]

Maybe, maybe, but you said the same about Robinson. We were calling for his head a long while back, yet Jol refused to drop him, ramos had a good look at hime and then decided enough is enough and dropped him. So maybe some SC-ers are right?

Perhaps the same will happen with Dawson should he continue to make costly errors.

We are surely entitled to our own opinions and in some cases, they may well be right.

Dawson was subjected to a torrent of abuse on SC after the United cup game. He wasn't dropped. Kaboul didn't even make the bench for several games until yesterday. Rocha's made the bench just once. Go figure.

And I'd suggest that as far as Robinson's concerned, it may be less to do with his errors, more to do with Cerny's greater willingness to get off his line and his surer handling. I suspect Juande's gone for a trade-off, and it's worked.

Sure, people are entitled to their opinions. I just wonder what those opinions are based on, sometimes. I really love the 'he's not a Ramos-type player' comments. I doubt that some of the people making those had even heard of Juande before we played Sevilla.

 

[Flatters]

I love Dawson and don't want to see him or any other Tottenham player get injured, but unfortunately for him I'd say he's probably our most off-form central defender at the moment, so it's not exactly the worst thing in the world.

 

[SpurSince57]

It's not a disaster, that's for sure.

I'm sure some of us will be only too quick to find someone else to start slagging off.

 

[Kendall]

Dawson was subjected to a torrent of abuse on SC after the United cup game. He wasn't dropped. Kaboul didn't even make the bench for several games until yesterday. Rocha's made the bench just once. Go figure.

And I'd suggest that as far as Robinson's concerned, it may be less to do with his errors, more to do with Cerny's greater willingness to get off his line and his surer handling. I suspect Juande's gone for a trade-off, and it's worked.

Sure, people are entitled to their opinions. I just wonder what those opinions are based on, sometimes. I really love the 'he's not a Ramos-type player' comments. I doubt that some of the people making those had even heard of Juande before we played Sevilla.

Hmmm, again, Robinson was subject to a torrent of abuse during Jol's reign, and he continued to pick him over Cerny, still when Ramos came in, Robbo was still subjected to abuse & Ramos stuck by him untill very recently. Is that to say SC-ers were wrong about Robbo UNTILL Ramos acted? I'm not so sure.

Just because Ramos has picked him over Kaboul recently (we don't really know what's going on with Rocha) doesn't mean much, because Kaboul's confidence looked shot to pieces the last time he played. Dawson has been consistently making errors and perhaps Ramos is hoping he can get it together before ultimately dropping him, like he did with Robbo.

Just because SC members are abusing Dawson's consistent errors yet Ramos keeps playing him, doesn't mean they are wrong.

 

[SpurSince57]

There's the key word—'abusing'.

According to some of our resident 'experts' Dawon should have dealt with those two VdS long balls easy as kiss-my-hand. Just routine. We had the assurance of some mug who plays Sunday League or whatever that he'd have got perfect headers on to them. As if. Funnily, no-one watched United v. Pompey, it seems, because Judas was totally unable to deal with two or three very similar balls. The difference was, he didn't get punished.

We had some fuckwits claiming that Cerny should have saved Beletti's shot. What? Sorry?

I've been pretty critical of Dawson myself this season, more on account of his failure to show leadership than his errors, but Ramos seems not to have lost faith in him, and that's what counts. Let's not forget, according to some people, Jenas should have been relegated to the stiffs long ago, because he's rubbish.

 

[Class1987]

It could be a blessing in disguise although I like his attitude and don't want to see any of our players get injured.
Personally, I'd be more at peace to see Woody pairing with Hudd more than him or Kaboul, provided King is unavailable, in the so far our important game of the season.

 

[DC_Boy]

I feel so sorry for the lad - a great servant and now missing his first major final (he probably would have made the 16 if not the 11)- get well soon Daws maybe you'll be in the UEFA final in May

 

[PLTuck]

There's the key word—'abusing'.

According to some of our resident 'experts' Dawon should have dealt with those two VdS long balls easy as kiss-my-hand. Just routine. We had the assurance of some mug who plays Sunday League or whatever that he'd have got perfect headers on to them. As if. Funnily, no-one watched United v. Pompey, it seems, because Judas was totally unable to deal with two or three very similar balls. The difference was, he didn't get punished.

We had some fuckwits claiming that Cerny should have saved Beletti's shot. What? Sorry?

I've been pretty critical of Dawson myself this season, more on account of his failure to show leadership than his errors, but Ramos seems not to have lost faith in him, and that's what counts. Let's not forget, according to some people, Jenas should have been relegated to the stiffs long ago, because he's rubbish.

Probably the same people that insisted Carrick was not good enough for us.....until he went to Utd.

And the same people who are writing off Bent, which may become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Back on topic. I wish people would get off Daws back. He makes mistakes. He's a defender so his mistakes have a higher probability of costing us a goal than one of Berbs mistakes. He's still young, has plenty of time to develop and has had a hard couple of seasons where he has pretty much carried us at the back, without experience or leadership beside him. Give the guy a fucking break.

Hope the injury isnt too bad.

 

[The Apprentice]

Great news.

Hopefully he's out for the season.





XX joking, well only a little bit.

 

[eViL]

I'd say Ramos is still experimenting with our League games with next season in mind.

Obviously taking the cups a lot more seriously than being top of the middle if y'get me?