The Clear Out Poll

[Arden]

Voted for Doherty, Sanchez, Winks, Bale, Lamela, Dier, Sissoko, Dele, Aurier and Lucas and accidentally clicked on Rodon in case your all thinking what moron clicked on that.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Often found running around like a lunatic covering most areas of the pitch,

That’s part the problem, he isn’t. There are gaps wherever Sissoko is meant to be, he is always wrong side to receive a pass and unless someone is one on one with him he is almost never in place to win the ball. His involvement for a central midfielder is shockingly low.

I'm not aware of any stand-out Dier-like errors leading to games lost/goals conceded, either.

Much easier to make the error that leads to the goal the further back you are on the pitch.

and it's another to make him the poster-boy of problems like plenty do.

He’s not the cause of all our problems, and nobody expects him to do things he can’t like thread a pass or hit a great strike, but we all expect midfielder to take responsibility for running the match and he does this less than every player he’s competing with at the club, even Winks.

I know it's not the same by any stretch, but there's an irony in that Moura, an attacker, (who has only really ever had inconsistent patches of form) is a legend for scoring a hat-trick in a semi final (based on mostly that alone) and all else is forgiven, but Sissoko, not an attacker, is vilified and subject to years of constant criticism despite scoring a crucial goal this season in a semi final. And a good one at that.

Left this one till last as you’ve led with knowing that it’s not the same... but really the two things are on a different stratosphere. Sissoko scored against Brentford to get us into the final of the least prestigious competition we were in this season, Lucas in less than a half of football brought us from oblivion with a hatrick, capped off with the last kick of the game, to drag us into the biggest match on the planet and in our history to date.

 

[rez9000]

Anyone who voted to get rid of Kane should be permabanned lobotomised.

FYP

 

[sausage]

That’s part the problem, he isn’t. There are gaps wherever Sissoko is meant to be, he is always wrong side to receive a pass and unless someone is one on one with him he is almost never in place to win the ball. His involvement for a central midfielder is shockingly low.

He wasn't like that for Newcastle, though, so I think it can be unfair to judge him based on what may be following training/instructions.

He had a season where he was a standout as one of our best players, yet it's like that never existed.

Much easier to make the error that leads to the goal the further back you are on the pitch.

That seems like lazy/selective blaming though. People made all sorts of excuses for Dele when Mourinho was pointing that out. Eriksen was terrible for it.

Left this one till last as you’ve led with knowing that it’s not the same... but really the two things are on a different stratosphere. Sissoko scored against Brentford to get us into the final of the least prestigious competition we were in this season, Lucas in less than a half of football brought us from oblivion with a hatrick, capped off with the last kick of the game, to drag us into the biggest match on the planet and in our history to date.

I think people need to pick a camp and set a flag in it - either cups and trophies are the be-all-and-end-all, or they're not prestigious and the players shouldn't care.

If it helps, look who is the guy winning a key defensive header and then actually setting up the assist for Moura to even score that crucial goal. Not saying he deserves outstanding praise or legend status, but he at least deserves to be given the same slack as others.

 

[Matthew]

I know it's not the same by any stretch, but there's an irony in that Moura, an attacker, (who has only really ever had inconsistent patches of form) is a legend for scoring a hat-trick in a semi final (based on mostly that alone) and all else is forgiven, but Sissoko, not an attacker, is vilified and subject to years of constant criticism despite scoring a crucial goal this season in a semi final. And a good one at that.

Often found running around like a lunatic covering most areas of the pitch, I'm not aware of any stand-out Dier-like errors leading to games lost/goals conceded, either. It's one thing to say "he's not good enough" and it's another to make him the poster-boy of problems like plenty do. Seemingly a nice guy, as well, and not a moments bother in the team.

losing laporte, and just standing like a div in the final?

 

[sausage]

losing laporte, and just standing like a div in the final?

He didn't though - Laporte jumped earlier and simply won the header. Not-winning-an-aerial-challenge isn't an error.
It's a bigger problem that anyone beyond Lloris/Dier/Alderweireld pitch put in a performance.

If he'd fouled Laporte and gifted them a winning penalty, yes.

 

[Matthew]

He didn't though - Laporte jumped earlier and simply won the header. Not-winning-an-aerial-challenge isn't an error.
It's a bigger problem that anyone beyond Lloris/Dier/Alderweireld pitch put in a performance.

If he'd fouled Laporte and gifted them a winning penalty, yes.

he BARELY jumped, and was outjumped because he lost him.

 

[Jamturk]

Yeah, Sissoko is so shit that he keeps being picked by that poor French team that has such a small pool of players to choose from.

 

[sausage]

he BARELY jumped, and was outjumped because he lost him.

You could easily look at Reguillion doing his impression of Ross in that episode of Friends where he plays rugby and they ask him to join the scrum.
I think people go out of their way to chastise Sissoko for things they don't bat an eyelid at with other players.

 

[Matthew]

You could easily look at Reguillion doing his impression of Ross in that episode of Friends where he plays rugby and they ask him to join the scrum.
I think people go out of their way to chastise Sissoko for things they don't bat an eyelid at with other players.

i agree, he was bad - and if you look back at my posts, ive said numerous times he been terrile for months, but point stands for me, this goal was on sissoko.

 

[Matthew]

Yeah, Sissoko is so shit that he keeps being picked by that poor French team that has such a small pool of players to choose from.

since the beginning of 2020 - hes barely featured - in 2019 yes, he was a mainstay ( probably around time he was playimg well for us )

 

[spursfan77]

93.8% for sissoko doesnt surprise me in the slightest, no commitment whatsover, thing that does make me wonder, in the amazon doc we heard he has a lot of pull/respect in the dressing room? maybe if we shift him the mood/commitment of the squad will improve? i mean theres deffo 5/6 others that need to go asap too, but sissoko for me is the ABSOLUTE must before anyone else, including dier!

He’s made 41 appearances for us this season. 41 too many.

 

[tototoner]

Pochettino said the squad was stale 2 years ago, its only got worse since

 

[Bobbins]

Sanchez
Winks
Dele
Sissoko
Lamela
Rose

I think that's at least realistic. I wouldn't buy Vinicius for the money being talked about but I have had no problem with having him on loan this season.

I'd consider letting any of the full-backs go if the offer was good enough but I'd like to hold on to the Serge's.

New CB.
New CM.
Some kind of new forward - but who knows what's possible with Kane here. I think Vinicius on loan was as good as we could possibly get as a back-up.
Bring back Skipp, Sess and Foyth.

 

[JonnySpurs]

Sanchez
Winks
Dele
Sissoko
Lamela
Rose

I think that's at least realistic. I wouldn't buy Vinicius for the money being talked about but I have had no problem with having him on loan this season.

I'd consider letting any of the full-backs go if the offer was good enough but I'd like to hold on to the Serge's.

New CB.
New CM.
Some kind of new forward - but who knows what's possible with Kane here. I think Vinicius on loan was as good as we could possibly get as a back-up.
Bring back Skipp, Sess and Foyth.

But why get ride of Dele now?

He's looked good again under Mason. He essentially got 2 assists against Leeds (had it not been for a ridiculous offside) and could arguably get back to his best under the new manager that comes in. If we got a great offer then I wouldn't mind letting him go simply to fund signings for other areas of higher need but I wouldn't be overly concerned about selling him this summer.

I'd personally also keep Sanchez over Dier. The former is faster, stronger and will play well alongside an experienced CB. Dier was a great CDM for a while but it didn't last and he's since proved to be only an average CB. Great at blocks, slide tackles and simple stuff like that but his positioning and awareness and severely lacking for a CB.

For me it's - Aurier, Winks, Lamela, Dier, Sissoko, Rose, Gazzaniga. Let Vinicius go back. I'd also happily let Davies and Doherty go but that's probably too many.

If Potter ends up as manager then I'd go after Lamptey (swap for Aurier) and Bissouma (swap for Sissoko) first and foremost.
New CB, maybe 2.
New Striker - possibly Ivan Toney, someone like that.
I'd also love us to get an Eriksen replacement. Olise from Reading maybe. They are in financial trouble and need to sell.

 

[Bobbins]

But why get ride of Dele now?

He's looked good again under Mason. He essentially got 2 assists against Leeds (had it not been for a ridiculous offside) and could arguably get back to his best under the new manager that comes in. If we got a great offer then I wouldn't mind letting him go simply to fund signings for other areas of higher need but I wouldn't be overly concerned about selling him this summer.

Every transfer window Dele stays with us his value falls. He's never, ever going to get back to being the player he once was, even if he has a slight upturn in form as he did when Jose came in.

We'd do better to get rid for the maximum possible amount ASAP and use those funds to rebuild. Not only is Dele a player on the decline, but very few other outgoings are going to generate significant cash this window.

We could've probably got £60m for Dele a year or 18 months ago. We'd probably be lucky to get £25-30m now, and it will only fall.

 

[JonnySpurs]

Every transfer window Dele stays with us his value falls. He's never, ever going to get back to being the player he once was, even if he has a slight upturn in form as he did when Jose came in.

We'd do better to get rid for the maximum possible amount ASAP and use those funds to rebuild. Not only is Dele a player on the decline, but very few other outgoings are going to generate significant cash this window.

We could've probably got £60m for Dele a year or 18 months ago. We'd probably be lucky to get £25-30m now, and it will only fall.

Fair enough, makes sense.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

If it helps, look who is the guy winning a key defensive header and then actually setting up the assist for Moura to even score that crucial goal. Not saying he deserves outstanding praise or legend status, but he at least deserves to be given the same slack as others.

Mate he's pony. I'll see your header, and I'll raise you...

 

[Goobers]

My biggest concern is finding clubs that will want to sen the money we need / our chairman will demand for the players that are surplus. That is why if there is interest for Aurier I think we have to take it and the same for others. But I don't really see the demand in the market for a lot of those players on that list. I have a feeling our first team squad will look lighter in terms of numbers but pretty similar in terms of personnel come August.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Sadly most of them not good enough.