The Cricket Thread

[midoshairband]

Kiss arse

arse.

 

[dondo]

arse.

Father jack is that you?

 

[aussiespursguy]

@aussiespursguy

What’s the story with Pucovski? I’ve just read that he’s again had to be subbed out of a game due to concussion in the warm up, something like his 12th concussion?

Does he have a weakness/illness or is it sheer bad luck that he keeps getting knocked so to speak? Assume he has collided with someone during the warm up? He wouldn’t be batting without a lid and getting pinned or anything like that surely?

This is so sad. His head is an egg shell.
It was during warm ups before play at Adelaide oval. It was a soccer ball! Nothing to do with cricket.
This guy is seriously so talented but I think his career is over before it really began.
This is his 11th concussion. As Peter Lalor says in the article below, he needs to be protected from himself!
Just really sad but I think its best for Will if he calls it a day.

‘He needs to retire’: Pucovski’s future in doubt after luckless prodigy’s 11th concussion

‘He needs to retire’: Pucovski’s future in doubt after luckless prodigy’s 11th concussion

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[midoshairband]

Broad off his long run here...

STUART BROAD: I'm waking up angrier each day after shock England axe

STUART BROAD: I could take being dropped if I had let my standards slip but facing up to being overlooked when they haven't is another thing altogether.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[UncleBuck]

This is so sad. His head is an egg shell.
It was during warm ups before play at Adelaide oval. It was a soccer ball! Nothing to do with cricket.
This guy is seriously so talented but I think his career is over before it really began.
This is his 11th concussion. As Peter Lalor says in the article below, he needs to be protected from himself!
Just really sad but I think its best for Will if he calls it a day.

‘He needs to retire’: Pucovski’s future in doubt after luckless prodigy’s 11th concussion

‘He needs to retire’: Pucovski’s future in doubt after luckless prodigy’s 11th concussion

www.foxsports.com.au

I’d have thought with what happened with Hughes he’d have been retired long ago though.
I don’t think any other sport would be letting him play!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Broad off his long run here...

STUART BROAD: I'm waking up angrier each day after shock England axe

STUART BROAD: I could take being dropped if I had let my standards slip but facing up to being overlooked when they haven't is another thing altogether.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Not being the biggest fan of Root's captaincy I feel obliged to wonder just how involved he was in this decision. My money is on very much so. This might not end well for Broad and Anderson. I hope they get at least one last summer and when the time does come, that it's done with a bit of class.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Not being the biggest fan of Root's captaincy I feel obliged to wonder just how involved he was in this decision. My money is on very much so. This might not end well for Broad and Anderson. I hope they get at least one last summer and when the time does come, that it's done with a bit of class.

I just CANNOT believe you have taken that stance.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I know Broad has column inches to fill but I might have just kept quiet and let the proverbial do the talking. We either lose in the WI and he could sit there laughing from the inside and THEN release a statement, or…we win for the first time in about 8 Tests and people now point at him and laugh that he wasn’t involved and made this story.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

This is so sad. His head is an egg shell.
It was during warm ups before play at Adelaide oval. It was a soccer ball! Nothing to do with cricket.
This guy is seriously so talented but I think his career is over before it really began.
This is his 11th concussion. As Peter Lalor says in the article below, he needs to be protected from himself!
Just really sad but I think its best for Will if he calls it a day.

‘He needs to retire’: Pucovski’s future in doubt after luckless prodigy’s 11th concussion

‘He needs to retire’: Pucovski’s future in doubt after luckless prodigy’s 11th concussion

www.foxsports.com.au

Really sad for the guy, I hadn’t realised just how good his record as a youngster was and why there was so much hype around him. So much so that the pressure was immense and I believe he took a break for mental health reasons at one point?

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I just CANNOT believe you have taken that stance.

TBF he must surely have had something to do with it ?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

TBF he must surely have had something to do with it ?

It’s an interesting one for me. Strauss in his press conference made very clear that the selection committee was himself, Collingwood and James Taylor. And the wording was that Root wanted to carry on as captain and was determined to lead a “new era”, whether that was forced on him or not is a bit open to interpretation.

There’s also half of me that thinks, Root must have at least been “ok” with the fact there was going to be no Broad or Anderson in the West Indies. What’s stopping me from going full “he must have had something to do with this” is that he knows more than anyone after the year they’ve just had that he needs to start winning games with England. Do I think that he engineered a scenario where he loses his best two wicket takers of all time and decides to go into battle with Woakes (notoriously shite away from home and absolutely horrible in the Ashes just gone), and an unknown in Fisher as two of his seam bowlers, plus an awful spinner that he himself doesn’t even trust to bowl in a moderately attacking way in the first innings, and that’s the bit that takes me back to the selection committee. Root has had next to little say in selection in about 80% of his tenure (pretty recent thing for the captain to be a full time member of said committee).

Plus. I think Broad and Anderson will be back in the summer anyway when there is a new chief.

And. Wasn’t Strauss the guy that basically jettisoned them from the ODI side when he revolutionised that? Could just be history repeating.

 

[Spurslove]

Broad off his long run here...

STUART BROAD: I'm waking up angrier each day after shock England axe

STUART BROAD: I could take being dropped if I had let my standards slip but facing up to being overlooked when they haven't is another thing altogether.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Whoever made the decision to drop both Broadie and Jimmy from the next test squad is dicing with death here. Broadie has absolutely every right to feel hurt and bloody angry and as he rightly says, it's not as if his form of late had disintegrated, far from it. His omission is an insult to him.

If both he and Jimmy turned around over the next few days and said they both felt the time was right for them to call it a day on their England test careers, it would serve whoever made that decision absolutely right.

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[Spurslove]

I know Broad has column inches to fill but I might have just kept quiet and let the proverbial do the talking. We either lose in the WI and he could sit there laughing from the inside and THEN release a statement, or…we win for the first time in about 8 Tests and people now point at him and laugh that he wasn’t involved and made this story.

To be fair to Broadie, he has a history of expressing his anger at being dropped from test sides and he's not the sort of guy to be diplomatic about it either. And actually, as he says in his article, it's not as if his form had deserted him of late, and I agree with him.

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[dimiSpur]

It's a funny one as Broady & Anderson absolutely make the best current starting XI. On the other hand, I understand the anxiety of getting the young/new players in to see what they're about. Especially away where we have struggled in the past. Omitting them completely from the tour though is rather harsh. Perhaps the easiest/best way of handling the situation, would have been to bleed in the new faces with the old boys around, to give them counsel and help them through the starts of their career.

It's criminal that the new players won't have the experienced counsel of 1200 Test wickets. There's no way Broad & Anderson shouldn't be apart of the process of getting the next generation of bowlers through. The only reason not to do so, is if the senior players are unprofessional and/or bad eggs. Jimmy & Broady don't seem to be those types of people.

 

[Spurslove]

I'd like to ask other cricket nuts out there what they expect from the boys in their upcoming tour of the Windies.

Personally, I'm not sure what I expect after that brutal mauling we got out in Oz, but I hope at least we put up a much greater fight against their bowlers especially. Their 'quicks' on their own conditions can be quite intimidating, I'm sure, but no greater than Starc, Cummings, Green and Hazelwood, that's for sure.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I'd like to ask other cricket nuts out there what they expect from the boys in their upcoming tour of the Windies.

Personally, I'm not sure what I expect after that brutal mauling we got out in Oz, but I hope at least we put up a much greater fight against their bowlers especially. Their 'quicks' on their own conditions can be quite intimidating, I'm sure, but no greater than Starc, Cummings, Green and Hazelwood, that's for sure.

I'm expecting to see some pretty poor cricket between 2 very average sides with the odd spark of brilliance from one or two good players on either side.

But most importantly, I'm just looking forward to watching proper cricket.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

It's a funny one as Broady & Anderson absolutely make the best current starting XI. On the other hand, I understand the anxiety of getting the young/new players in to see what they're about. Especially away where we have struggled in the past. Omitting them completely from the tour though is rather harsh. Perhaps the easiest/best way of handling the situation, would have been to bleed in the new faces with the old boys around, to give them counsel and help them through the starts of their career.

It's criminal that the new players won't have the experienced counsel of 1200 Test wickets. There's no way Broad & Anderson shouldn't be apart of the process of getting the next generation of bowlers through. The only reason not to do so, is if the senior players are unprofessional and/or bad eggs. Jimmy & Broady don't seem to be those types of people.

In theory you're right of course. Which makes me think about the bolded part.

At the end of the day they are just miserable fast bowlers, and maybe a tour with Broad and his Mail column, Jimmy and his podcast, constantly being asked about their roles in the team was deemed too much of a distraction by Strauss and Co.

 

[al_pacino]

You don't take Broad and Anderson if they aren't going to play, having them bringing out the drinks for 5 days would be a bit of an insult to them and just be extra drama when it's not going well.

Anyone know if there is any covid protocols ? That would be another issue too, I can imagine the squad players getting really pissed off with those and two senior bowlers would certainly not be happy with it.

 

[dimiSpur]

In theory you're right of course. Which makes me think about the bolded part.

At the end of the day they are just miserable fast bowlers, and maybe a tour with Broad and his Mail column, Jimmy and his podcast, constantly being asked about their roles in the team was deemed too much of a distraction by Strauss and Co.

Not impossible no. Whilst I listened in, I personally didn't think it was right for Jimmy to appear on the Tailenders podcast during the Ashes. I also didn't like the "emergency" episode which celebrated a draw as if they'd won the World Cup, despite their denials of celebrations.

Perhaps that is the reason therefore, which is something I can understand.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Malan and Morgan went unsold in the IPL auction. Ooooh.