The Daily ITK and Transfer Discussion Thread - 12th August

[Gspurs11]

City's owners potentially sponsoring the stadium with over valued deal becasue they get kane at a cut price. This is a breach of ffp(discuss somewhere else) I believe and what city did orignally to pump money into their club

If it did happen, it would probably be through an unofficially affiliated shell company or organisation rather than directly. I doubt it'd be Emirates Airways for obvious reasons so no idea who or what

 

[NinjaTuna]

I've always said to myself that if Spurs ever got bought out by some oil slavers from the UAE, I'd drop my support for the club and either stop following football or follow my local non league team full time. If that naming rights deal ends up being the truth, then that'll be it for me, unfortunately.

As others have already said, that would be utterly despicable from the club and we'd be nothing more than sport washers, no better than City. Further to that, we'd be joining in with their rodeo, and in turn, actively helping their club. If Levy and the board have any sense, they wouldn't do a deal like that.

 

[robotsonic]

Not sure how we'd suffer any penalty for doing such a deal as it's exactly the method these scum use to fund themselves, and then just hand wave away any questions as legitimate sponsorship. Maybe it's 120m and we get City's lawyer team on loan for 6 months?

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

City's owners potentially sponsoring the stadium with over valued deal becasue they get kane at a cut price. This is a breach of ffp I believe and what city did orignally to pump money into their club

Its not a breach of FFP. Its not exactly what City did originally.

It would be a breach if Joe Lewis decided to "Sponsor" the stadium for £50m/year.

Right now, its an arm's length transaction between two unrelated companies.


But, as to the larger picture, I fear that the pandemic, loss of revenue, and lack of naming rights has put Levy in a difficult situation. One where he can no longer pretend that not having an income stream from naming rights is not hindering him, ENIC, or the club. High finance is messy, and not for the faint of heart. There are very few companies that operate in this realm that don't have some "morality" issues. I am guessing that if Levy goes down this path, its not because he wants to, but because he has to.

 

[CanadaSpurs]

I’d rather he leave on a free this summer than put any oil name on the building for the next 20 years…

 

[Amo]

Its not a breach of FFP. Its not exactly what City did originally.

It would be a breach if Joe Lewis decided to "Sponsor" the stadium for £50m/year.

Right now, its an arm's length transaction between two unrelated companies.

Rules are applied with discretion. If only they were that susceptible to gotchya maneuvers.

 

[Nebby]

#NoToPetroDollars

 

[jackson]

Would it make it any better if City gave us £300m+ for Kane? It'd be the same dirty cash just not gaming the system

 

[Nerine]

Would it make it any better if City gave us £300m+ for Kane? It'd be the same dirty cash just not gaming the system

I think that would then make their FFP figures (not that they really seem to matter) look even worse, though.

This way they can effectively pay through a third party that will foot the bill and it will reduce the amount of book balancing (cooking in their case) they have to do.

 

[Hotspurious]

I've always said to myself that if Spurs ever got bought out by some oil slavers from the UAE, I'd drop my support for the club and either stop following football or follow my local non league team full time. If that naming rights deal ends up being the truth, then that'll be it for me, unfortunately.

As others have already said, that would be utterly despicable from the club and we'd be nothing more than sport washers, no better than City. Further to that, we'd be joining in with their rodeo, and in turn, actively helping their club. If Levy and the board have any sense, they wouldn't do a deal like that.

Disagree….not saying this is a good idea but we are still just the selling club like Aston Villa getting a high price for our asset. We are losing the asset for what is likely a fair but high price. The difference is that the money is coming from another source. Man City is still the one cheating and getting around FFP. The only liability I see is if we are are conspirators in helping them get around FFP rules. City have been getting inflated sponsorship deals all along. This way, they it will just appear like a smaller outlay for them without having to inflate their revenue numbers in some even more bogus sponsorship deal. The problem is it would be so obvious.

 

[FinnYid]

Would it make it any better if City gave us £300m+ for Kane? It'd be the same dirty cash just not gaming the system

Well, it wouldn't be helping them bending the rules.

 

[Hotspurious]

Well, it wouldn't be helping them bending the rules.

I have this elaborate Hollywood script fantasy going thru my head that this is a sting being run by fifa or Uefa with collaboration by Harry and Levy….for the good of the game. They’d both knighted for that.

 

[jackson]

Levy loves using loopholes to the clubs advantage when it comes to transfers, this would be on the grandest scale though

 

[jimmyh]

We are already taking their oil money for Kane's transfer anyway. As far as the naming rights go we could've already had that in place with a uae company and because we are selling kane for a smaller fee people are putting 2+ 2 together and getting 6.

Just want what's best for our club and that is getting kane gone then hopefully funds from naming rights and transfer fees then give it to Fabio and say please work some magic and let us compete and forget all about Harry.

 

[Pochie]

I wondered if the naming rights might be linked to an Asian or Korean firm as Son resigned and we recently signed a top woman Korean player too.

 

[Bulletspur]

Would it make it any better if City gave us £300m+ for Kane? It'd be the same dirty cash just not gaming the system

I recognise your Avatar - Jim Kelly as Black Belt Jones!

 

[JayB]

Disagree….not saying this is a good idea but we are still just the selling club like Aston Villa getting a high price for our asset. We are losing the asset for what is likely a fair but high price. The difference is that the money is coming from another source. Man City is still the one cheating and getting around FFP. The only liability I see is if we are are conspirators in helping them get around FFP rules. City have been getting inflated sponsorship deals all along. This way, they it will just appear like a smaller outlay for them without having to inflate their revenue numbers in some even more bogus sponsorship deal. The problem is it would be so obvious.

Regardless of any technical liability it would be an unsporting, anti-competitive practice. It’s not fair to the rest of the league or to the clubs in Europe if we participate in a scheme that enables City to get around FFP regulations. It’s more than just getting full value for our asset, it’d be contributing to the corruption of the sport.

 

[whitesocks]

Ugh we’re going to end up with a stadium with an ugly name

The Harry Kane Stadium?

 

[Adam Zampa]

(Google Translate) Information: Shakhtar's lateral dodo has a proposal from Tottenham. The British sent in an offer of 20 million euros and Shakhtar refused. Conversations follow, Ukrainian club wants to sell for higher value.

I am Shakhtars biggest fan in the southern hemisphere, and and Ive wanted him for some time, especially if we play 3 at the back, he's an incredible attacking right back, very Dani Alves like, he will get bullied by bigger wingers, but I think he'll be a bargain if we can get him for anything less then 30 million euros. Regardless of how it ends up, it's good to see us looking in Ukraine for talent, it's a goldmine over there.

 

[Hoopspur]

Surely all this would be ‘short termism’ of the highest order? Letting them have Kane for say 5 years but us having naming rights for 10 or more would place us as very unhealthy opposition - or would they need to verify all our purchases or review our performances? Can’t see it happening.