The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 20th August 2014

[Mr Pink]

mini snippet from trix: Was told that even though Poch see's CB as our weakest area, MS is without doubt his number 1 target for this window.

Lets pray we get both then (MM and MS)

 

[SteveH]

Yes lets discuss the lack of ITK on the deals we never close.

Maybe there was no "information" because there.....was .....no ......deal! Or am just be being picky here?

WTF!

 

[Breezer]

Lets pray we get both then (MM and MS)

I can't get my head around MS being number 1 target. Yes I'd like us to sign him but we can cope without him. Our number 1 priority should be the weakest position in the team. Sign MM and if MS happens it's a bonus.

 

[sloth]

I can't get my head around MS being number 1 target. Yes I'd like us to sign him but we can cope without him. Our number 1 priority should be the weakest position in the team. Sign MM and if MS happens it's a bonus.

I guess he thinks MS could be pivotal, and he's not as unhappy with our CB options?

 

[Mr Pink]

I can't get my head around MS being number 1 target. Yes I'd like us to sign him but we can cope without him. Our number 1 priority should be the weakest position in the team. Sign MM and if MS happens it's a bonus.

I can understand why MS is his top target, vital area of the pitch and someone who's exceptionally familiar with what Poch demands there with respect to the system. The player himself admitted it took several months to master.

Anyway, this has all been discussed to the extreme in the MS thread

 

[Kaboul'sForehead]

I'm sorry but MS and MM would literally be unreal. The amount of ITK about both strongly suggests we are willing to get both FOR THE RIGHT PRICE.

It is not a question of one or the other, which makes me think that we really are bloody trying.

Don't like seeing hate for Levy et al on this because quite frankly ITK has stated it is the lack of willingness from potential outgoings and also other clubs/third parties that is holding up transfers.

Yeah so Levy is unwilling to get mugged off and sell players at under their value; so what? We would all be complaining if we heard we sold (HYPOTHETICALLY) Paulinho for 7m/Dembele for 8m/Townsend for 5m/Chadli for 5m/Chiriches for 4m etc (REASONABLE GUESSTIMATIONS)

The ITKs all points to the same thing:we are being cautious but positive in out attempts to make killer signings and astute sales.

We are a turtle in this race for glory, we have to win it slow and steady. Over years or perhaps even decades. All we can do is enjoy the ride and keep believing.

COYS.

 

[Breezer]

I guess he thinks MS could be pivotal, and he's not as unhappy with our CB options?

Just going by what the ITK says. "Poch see's centre backs as our weakest area". So he can't be too happy.

 

[SteveH]

Just going by what the ITK says. "Poch see's centre backs as our weakest area". So he can't be too happy.

They always are by the very nature of their job. I think poch will be looking to strengthen in most areas. Centre backs are always the foundation.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I'm sorry but MS and MM would literally be unreal. The amount of ITK about both strongly suggests we are willing to get both FOR THE RIGHT PRICE.

It is not a question of one or the other, which makes me think that we really are bloody trying.

Don't like seeing hate for Levy et al on this because quite frankly ITK has stated it is the lack of willingness from potential outgoings and also other clubs/third parties that is holding up transfers.

Yeah so Levy is unwilling to get mugged off and sell players at under their value; so what? We would all be complaining if we heard we sold (HYPOTHETICALLY) Paulinho for 7m/Dembele for 8m/Townsend for 5m/Chadli for 5m/Chiriches for 4m etc (REASONABLE GUESSTIMATIONS)

The ITKs all points to the same thing:we are being cautious but positive in out attempts to make killer signings and astute sales.

We are a turtle in this race for glory, we have to win it slow and steady. Over years or perhaps even decades. All we can do is enjoy the ride and keep believing.

COYS.

If you think we'd sell Paulinho for £7m, you'd be mistaken.

 

[y1dk1d]

I do worry that we won't offload enough, and if we do whether or not we'll have the money for MM and MS.

Vorm(3.5)+Davies(sig)+Dier(4)+Yedlin(2.5)+MS(22?)+MM(17?)= 49m

Idk what we could make from sales as we have no idea who could go and what we could make from them but if we look at a possible £20m+ net spend can we afford that? If so would we pay it? I'm not sure

 

[worcestersauce]

I can't get my head around MS being number 1 target. Yes I'd like us to sign him but we can cope without him. Our number 1 priority should be the weakest position in the team. Sign MM and if MS happens it's a bonus.

Because Pochottino wants us to play in a certain way, he believes it is critical that we get this right quickly and once we do the sky is the limit, for this to happen he needs players to fulfil roles within the team, if the players don't then we will fail.
Pochottino therefore has to have players doing what he needs them to do, it is absolutely fundemental to the future success of the club and the one thing he knows with absolute indisputable certainty is that Morgan Schneiderlin will do what he needs him to do and that is why Morgan Schneiderlin would be the number 1 target.
Hope this helps, it's quite simple really.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Also, we're not selling Verts. United won't want him anyway as they've signed Shaw and Rojo who are both left-sided players already.

 

[Mr Pink]

Because Pochottino wants us to play in a certain way, he believes it is critical that we get this right quickly and once we do the sky is the limit, for this to happen he needs players to fulfil roles within the team, if the players don't then we will fail.
Pochottino therefore has to have players doing what he needs them to do, it is absolutely fundemental to the future success of the club and the one thing he knows with absolute indisputable certainty is that Morgan Schneiderlin will do what he needs him to do and that is why Morgan Schneiderlin would be the number 1 target.
Hope this helps, it's quite simple really.

MS was basically the hub for Poch's system. He's developed and moulded him into this role so I can totally understand his desire to get him.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Lets pray we get both then (MM and MS)

I still think we will.

 

[gazzeh]

I believe its imperative that we sign Schneiderlin, as Poch wants him. Shows massive trust and faith from Levy if he gets Pochs targets. I Believe MM is also Pochs choice? (maybe an ITK can help out here)

 

[Cavehillspur]

Also, we're not selling Verts. United won't want him anyway as they've signed Shaw and Rojo who are both left-sided players already.

United still need at least one more centre back though.

Only thing that concerns me re Jan is there has been no announcement on his new 5 year deal and added to the ITK the other day that we might be forced to sell players who we dont want to in order to bring others in. Hand on heart I still think he will be here at the end of the window but there's just a slight bit of concern creeeping in.

 

[felmani26]

I do worry that we won't offload enough, and if we do whether or not we'll have the money for MM and MS.

Vorm(3.5)+Davies(sig)+Dier(4)+Yedlin(2.5)+MS(22?)+MM(17?)= 49m

Idk what we could make from sales as we have no idea who could go and what we could make from them but if we look at a possible £20m+ net spend can we afford that? If so would we pay it? I'm not sure

We've already sold Livermore for £8million, Siggy for circa £8-£10million and Falque for circa £4-£5million so we've recouped a fair bit already.

 

[y1dk1d]

I still think we will.

Seriously jealous of your optimism
Would be awesome if we did though. Serious intent!

 

[Cavehillspur]

We've already sold Livermore for £8million, Siggy for circa £8-£10million and Falque for circa £4-£5million so we've recouped a fair bit already.

Plus the Defoe fee, about 7mil?

 

[y1dk1d]

We've already sold Livermore for £8million, Siggy for circa £8-£10million and Falque for circa £4-£5million so we've recouped a fair bit already.

True, I suppose the Defoe money top. Although Siggy basically bought Davies