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Mullers

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I'm not sure why Levy would be talking to Barnard's agent rather than going to his club first and agreeing the fee.
 

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I'm not sure why Levy would be talking to Barnard's agent rather than going to his club first and agreeing the fee.

Levy doesn't play by the rules. Show him a picture of the rulebook and he won't know what it is ;)
 

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I'm not sure why Levy would be talking to Barnard's agent rather than going to his club first and agreeing the fee.

It's common practice to speak to agents before agreeing any fee

Would be pointless wasting everyones time if wages can't be agreed
 

Mullers

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It's common practice to speak to agents before agreeing any fee

Would be pointless wasting everyones time if wages can't be agreed

Shouldn't wages be agreed after the club has had permission, put in a bid which the club accepts?
What you are saying means that Real Madrid or any other club can just go to Bale's agent and agree his wages without us knowing.
 

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Shouldn't wages be agreed after the club has had permission, put in a bid which the club accepts?
What you are saying means that Real Madrid or any other club can just go to Bale's agent and agree his wages without us knowing.

How do you know we haven't been given permission to talk with his people? (If the ITK is correct that we met with them)
 

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Then he shouldn't bitch when other clubs do the same to him then.

No one here has any proof that Levy is speaking, if he is indeed speaking, to the player's agent without the permission of the player's club.
 

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Shouldn't wages be agreed after the club has had permission, put in a bid which the club accepts?
What you are saying means that Real Madrid or any other club can just go to Bale's agent and agree his wages without us knowing.
We could only speak to the players agent if the owing club give us permission.

We can speak to the agent and the player at anytime during negotiations provided the owning club have said it is ok. The owing club will usually give you permission to speak to the player if they think that a deal will be reached.
 

Mullers

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How do you know we haven't been given permission to talk with his people? (If the ITK is correct that we met with them)

I don't, I am purely commenting on the info I've seen in ITK which doesn't say anything about being given permission.
 

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Shouldn't wages be agreed after the club has had permission, put in a bid which the club accepts?
What you are saying means that Real Madrid or any other club can just go to Bale's agent and agree his wages without us knowing.

permission and agreeing a fee are different.

Real Madrid and others do this all the time. So many news reports say things like '... has agreed terms with (player), now they will negotiate a fee with (club).' Lewandowski is a recent example. Supposedly agreed terms with Bayern but no fee agreed with Dortmund.
 

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I'm not sure why Levy would be talking to Barnard's agent rather than going to his club first and agreeing the fee.

You have absolutely no idea whether he has already agreed a deal first, if the player has been given permission to talk to us or if the ITK is accurate. So leave off with the digging at Levy until we do.
 

Mullers

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We could only speak to the players agent if the owing club give us permission.

We can speak to the agent and the player at anytime during negotiations provided the owning club have said it is ok. The owing club will usually give you permission to speak to the player if they think that a deal will be reached.

Like I said this was not mentioned in the ITK.
 

Mullers

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You have absolutely no idea whether he has already agreed a deal first, if the player has been given permission to talk to us or if the ITK is accurate. So leave off with the digging at Levy until we do.

What did have I taken? I'm commenting on the ITK which doesn't say anything about us being given permission.
 

Mullers

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permission and agreeing a fee are different.

Real Madrid and others do this all the time. So many news reports say things like '... has agreed terms with (player), now they will negotiate a fee with (club).' Lewandowski is a recent example. Supposedly agreed terms with Bayern but no fee agreed with Dortmund.

So then like I said they can agree terms with Bale without our permission?
 
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