The Daily ITK Discussion Thread

[Philly Yid]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

What about that Alli kid? I heard somewhere that he only cost 5 mil.

 

[topper]

If we sign Pjanic, then we won’t be signing another midfielder. Been talking to Barca since last week

They're are so skint I bet the reversed charges on the phone call

 

[RJR1949]

You'll see plenty of Skipp next season

Great.

I watched quite a few Norwich games last season and he was exceptional.

 

[Spursmatty87]

Thanks, it was a genuine question, I really couldn't remember us signing players of that age and Bale was a short term loan so wasn't thinking about him. As I'm typing this I thought about Gallas and Davids, I'm not sure how old they were but they did pretty good for us.
I think the PL has changed and the pace of things is much higher than before. Even players in their mid to late 20s seem to struggle with the pace. I'm not against signing player of any age but I think the gamble is slightly higher in terms of waiting for them to settle in to the club/league, especially if they're coming from a non PL league team before we might see the best of them.

I saw someone say this might be like his Moutinho signing at Wolves. Every sign we seem to make is a gamble. I would think it will only be a loan with an option.

 

[Trix]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

Buy stupid buy twice! Price is irrelevant.


The majority of our better signings over the last 10 years have been budget buys we've taken a risk on. In fact anyone we've spent real money on have either been flops or the jury is still out.

I've been massively against this new regime but that's no longer for this thread, and it's more about long term concerns.

Have to say though it generally looks like there is a coherent game plan as to actually filling the positions we need to.

Paratici's was brought in because of his knowledge of players contracts and clubs financial issues give him a head start over others. I wouldn't be surprised if it's in part due to his relationship with certain journalists giving him the heads up in exchange for information on signings etc(but that's just me guessing a bit).

Cheap doesn't necessarily mean low quality as proven by how many times we have "missed the boat".

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

From Herc's latest ITK it would appear that we will be getting:

2 x CBs (Japanese lad plus one)
1 x midfielder (potentially Pjanic)

... and that Doherty will be first choice RWB (if NES is reluctant to buy a RB without looking at the academy first that suggests a backup RB anyway).

I was hoping for a larger overhaul of the defence but sounds like NES might want to give Sanchez a chance.

The question for me - how does Tomiyasu fit into the backline. I thought he was considered a RB.

 

[Rob]

What about that Alli kid? I heard somewhere that he only cost 5 mil.

There's a difference between speculative cheap buys on potential and buying quality that needs to be in the first team squad.

I'd be all for us buying a few £5-10m defenders who might be in the first team in 2-3 years. That's not what we're in the market for though. We need players to step in to the first team in vital positions. We basically need to replace Jan properly and likely replace Toby as well.

 

[parklane yid]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

Give me some evidence that Kounde at 50m is better than milenkovic who I rate higher or Andersen who has premier league experience.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

There's a difference between speculative cheap buys on potential and buying quality that needs to be in the first team squad.

I'd be all for us buying a few £5-10m defenders who might be in the first team in 2-3 years. That's not what we're in the market for though. We need players to step in to the first team in vital positions. We basically need to replace Jan properly and likely replace Toby as well.

We signed Eriksen, Lamela, Paulinho and Soldado, all for the first team, in the same summer.

 

[parklane yid]

Buy stupid buy twice! Price is irrelevant.


The majority of our better signings over the last 10 years have been budget buys we've taken a risk on. In fact anyone we've spent real money on have either been flops or the jury is still out.

I've been massively against this new regime but that's no longer for this thread, and it's more about long term concerns.

Have to say though it generally looks like there is a coherent game plan as to actually filling the positions we need to.

Paratici's was brought in because of his knowledge of players contracts and clubs financial issues give him a head start over others. I wouldn't be surprised if it's in part due to his relationship with certain journalists giving him the heads up in exchange for information on signings etc(but that's just me guessing a bit).

Cheap doesn't necessarily mean low quality as proven by how many times we have "missed the boat".

How many times have we seen Leicester for example buying someone reasonably cheap that no one else to a punt on and in a year or two everyone is trying to buy off them for over 50m. Good scouting is needed.

 

[Trix]

We signed Eriksen, Lamela and Soldado, all for the first team, in the same summer.

We signed Toby and Jan for just under £20 mil combined.

 

[the yid]

If we do sign Pjanic, that will be ALL down to Paratici. Apparently they have a brilliant relationship. And that could go in our favour.

To be honest its a no brainer he's a top player available relatively cheap allows us to spend money elsewhere that's higher priority very shrewd if it comes off

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Iversen was a brilliant striker who had a torrid time with injuries and wasn't the best at keeping in shape during his injury spells, to put it mildly. I don't know anything about Damsgaard's professionalism but a) he isn't a striker and b) he has already played outside his home country.

The only similarities between them in any way is that they're white and Nordic.

.......I seem to have been misinterpreted on my comment. ?

I meant that they are/were both young Scandinavian prodigy's.

Wasn't meant as a negative.

 

[worcestersauce]

Quality is always a bargain.
I don't know too much about Pjanic but I'm pretty sure his game isn't based on speed and power so his age isn't against him as much as many players and the PL shouldn't therefore be too much for him.

 

[Guntz]

We signed Toby and Jan for just under £20 mil combined.

Jan was nearly 10 years ago and Toby was 6 years ago, times have changed.

It's much harder now to find deals like that in football.

Hopefully, Paratici has a few hidden gems like Tomiyasu up his sleeve to compensate.

 

[the yid]

We signed Toby and Jan for just under £20 mil combined.

Add in Rose and walker we spent what £23m on our best back line in recent years

 

[Philly Yid]

There's a difference between speculative cheap buys on potential and buying quality that needs to be in the first team squad.

I'd be all for us buying a few £5-10m defenders who might be in the first team in 2-3 years. That's not what we're in the market for though. We need players to step in to the first team in vital positions. We basically need to replace Jan properly and likely replace Toby as well.

I don't disagree, I was really just ribbing you. I would love for us to splash some serious cash on the right player. Though it could be argued that we splashed cash in recent years on a couple busts too. Davi was in the $50m range wasn't he? Would've been better served saving that money to install the cheese room.

 

[Jamturk]

From Herc's latest ITK it would appear that we will be getting:

2 x CBs (Japanese lad plus one)
1 x midfielder (potentially Pjanic)

... and that Doherty will be first choice RWB (if NES is reluctant to buy a RB without looking at the academy first that suggests a backup RB anyway).

I was hoping for a larger overhaul of the defence but sounds like NES might want to give Sanchez a chance.

I thought the Japanese lad was a defensive RB.

 

[dellybelly]

Buy cheap, buy twice.

Yes. That makes SC posters twice as excited. Where's the downside?

 

[soflapaul]

It seems a mental thing with both him and Dele. Signs of very good ability in both. Sanchez shits himself too often. Something needs to happen to switch his mind to be more confident.

When the issue is mental, it's always possible that a new coach figures out a way to change the mindset/turn the lightbulb on, etc. Sanchez played well in a particular system and awful in another. Not sure how much of that was the system and how much was in his head but one of the reasons Nuno may be good for Spurs is that some of our inconsistent players (Sanchez, Dele, Moura, etc) may do better under him than under Mou or late Poch

What is positive is the signs that the club is spending at CB. that is without a doubt the most important position. thanks to all the ITKs