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Would you welcome a 25% ownership stake for Qatar Sports Investments (QSI)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 655 65.2%
  • No

    Votes: 350 34.8%

  • Total voters
    1,005
  • Poll closed .

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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That may be so; but the difference in spending between us and them over the time they have owned Arsenal could easily have been matched by Levy and Spurs based on our income alone. It's about 20m per season over 5 years.

We could have been in their position without needing to financially dope ourselves. That’s what I really don’t get about ENIC at this point. The whole idea of the stadium was to allow us to compete without sugar daddy investors and now we have it we're doing it anyway, what’s that about.

I'm just thinking aloud there.
Don't base it over the last 5 years Base it over the time Kroenke has had full control. The Usmanov power struggle is well documented and Kroenke was never going to commit fully while he was part of the pie. They are buying it whether you want to admit it or not. Now we can debate about how clean that money is but that's a different point, but the spend speaks for itself none the less.
 

Albertbarich

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Jul 4, 2020
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I don’t want Poch back, one reason behind this being I’m an absolute pochette and I know this will end with his relationship to the club in tatters. The sentimentality means he would be the ultimate human shield for Levy.

I do think he’s deluded and arrogant enough to appoint Tuchel instead though.
I know I'm weird but I really get my hopes up when a big job comes up on the continent so he doesn't join another English club.?
 
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spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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What we need as a club is a complete reset but it just isn't going to happen.

New owners in, Paul Barber in as CEO, Michael Edwards in as Sporting Director and then a new manager (I have my preference but the whole structure is more important).

Edward’s is the obvious replacement for paratici when he inevitably follows Conte out of the door in the summer. Unfortunately he’s already worked at Spurs before so knows what it’s like and that will probably put him off coming back again!
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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I think Pochettino is nailed on TBH. Given our next few games, It wouldn't surprise me if it's as soon as next month, if not sooner.

And despite what people say, Pochettino will be (quite rightly) given a really warm reception and it will quieten the protests. In the summer we'll make a couple of signings, people will settle themselves into a "lets wait and see" mentality and it'll buy Levy 12-18 months before the bouncing rubber penny drops once again and we're where we are now again.

It is also possible that in the summer, Levy goes to circus school and learns how to walk on stilts, comes back, puts on a syrup and we announce a new chairman who's 6ft 4" tall and looks like a cross between Catweazle and Jon Bon Jovi. And the disciples of the bouncing penny will fall for it.

TLDR; We need to wise up by not letting up on him. This should not go away again. Not again. If it does then stop fucking complaining, give Levy a great big aubergine and bend over.
I think your right, and im sure he will wait until the window shuts to do it. But i just don't know how he gets away with not bringing in any new players now without a massive backlash regardless who he brings in.
 

stonebrow

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Jun 28, 2012
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If the investment doesn’t materialise it is unlikely we would get an official explanation from the club or it least a truthful one any time soon.
Obviously it would be very need to know but I think (just my opinion) if a deal was close we would have news filtering through or at least a bit of positivity being leaked to the press.
 

bat-chain

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Jan 4, 2009
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Don't base it over the last 5 years Base it over the time Kroenke has had full control. The Usmanov power struggle is well documented and Kroenke was never going to commit fully while he was part of the pie. They are buying it whether you want to admit it or not. Now we can debate about how clean that money is but that's a different point, but the spend speaks for itself none the less.

So it's a 4 year span because they take full control in Aug 18 right?

Their net spend from then to now is supposedly something like 489.25
Spurs' is 368.28

So they spent 120.97 more than us over a 4 year period so 30m a year with associated wages, so a fair bit granted.
 

Trix

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So it's a 4 year span because they take full control in Aug 18 right?

Their net spend from then to now is supposedly something like 489.25
Spurs' is 368.28

So they spent 120.97 more than us over a 4 year period so 30m a year with associated wages, so a fair bit granted.
And were very close this week to getting Mudryk for way over our transfer record until Chelsea jumped in and doubled the players wages. He is spending mate and spending a lot. Also take into account they have had no CL money in that time either.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Yeah I think you're right, these reports back it up.

Tottenham owner Joe Lewis would like to sell his entire stake in the club as he ‘seeks an exit strategy’ after 23 years in control. The ultimatum would reportedly make it unlikely that Qatar Sports Investment (QSI) will pick up any share in the north London side as they would be restricted to a minority stake under UEFA laws given their ownership of PSG.

There is a workaround though if they buy ENIC and not the football club. I’m sure it’s been mentioned on here that there’s a legal workaround like with the Red Bull clubs that could be adopted and passable to uefa. The qatar guy is high up at uefa too isn’t he so will know how to cross that bridge.
 

Danfunkel

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Jan 31, 2013
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If the investment doesn’t materialise it is unlikely we would get an official explanation from the club or it least a truthful one any time soon.
Obviously it would be very need to know but I think (just my opinion) if a deal was close we would have news filtering through or at least a bit of positivity being leaked to the press.
I’m not sure. I know we had the original story break a week ago, but stuff of this nature is usually kept extremely tight lipped right up until it’s done. Serious investors never want their hand shown before they need to.

just my penny’s worth.
 

Dunc2610

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With the shit show on the pitch and now the club seemingly backstabbing another manager, why would anyone want a part of that, there are better options I'd say. Can't trust Levy as far as you can throw the little bald turd.
 

Gspurs11

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Aug 19, 2012
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I’m not sure. I know we had the original story break a week ago, but stuff of this nature is usually kept extremely tight lipped right up until it’s done. Serious investors never want their hand shown before they need to.

just my penny’s worth.
It was definitely leaked prematurely, and has seemingly been going on for a lot longer than the initial reports indicated. A friend who works in law, is involved with the Gulf states, and he believes there's been initial murmurings for months that something has been happening. Who knows
 
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chrisd2k

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Dec 1, 2004
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Edward’s is the obvious replacement for paratici when he inevitably follows Conte out of the door in the summer. Unfortunately he’s already worked at Spurs before so knows what it’s like and that will probably put him off coming back again!
Edwards who turned down chelski because he wanted a break from football? Yeah not so sure he'd accept our offer
 

dirtyh

One Skin, two skin.....
Jun 24, 2011
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Edwards who turned down chelski because he wanted a break from football? Yeah not so sure he'd accept our offer

only if he wanted to abandon all football related hope, joy and excitement that he may have in his life. what's not to love?
 

Darrenh61

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They've already done that
Exactly. They just turned up at our place and sung Tottenham Hotspur you’ll always be shit…on mass repeat. Like they would ever give us credit for any win at any time in our history! I don’t give a flying fig what they or any other set of fans think.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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It says a lot about the situation with our club at present that the Conte, Next Manager and Takeover threads are extremely active and the transfer section is completely and utterly dead and has been for several days.
 

SpartanSpur

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And were very close this week to getting Mudryk for way over our transfer record until Chelsea jumped in and doubled the players wages. He is spending mate and spending a lot. Also take into account they have had no CL money in that time either.

... and we had a £150m share capital injection.

I'm convinced our upcoming accounts will show a turnover far above theirs too. They have genuine ambition whereas Levy's ambition has limits, limits that seem far too restrictive for our actual financial status.
 
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