Tottenham Vs West Brom: Match Thread

[THFCSPURS19]

So Everton, Liverpool, Spurs and United all lost and Chelsea and City drew.


Mildly positive I suppose...

 

[dagraham]

Not long back from the game.

What a truly disgraceful performance that was. No quality at all and even worse a disturbing lack of urgency or guts.

I've been saying all sumner that the players aren't good enough and nothing has changed my mind. We are just poor in the final third with no pace whatsoever and completely powder puff up front. Yet we saw fit not to make any attacking signings this window. Ridiculous decision.

This was our strongest line up as well attacking wise so God knows what will happen if we have an injury crisis.

Eriksen is our best outfield player, but he looks lost in this system, more often than not appearing on the right, where he has little effect.

We haven't bought a single player who can really make a difference and spent £10m on left back who cannot even pose a real threat to Danny Rose's place.

Yes we played pretty well at Sunderland, but a better team would have simply put the game beyond them and it's symptomatic of our lack of attacking potency.

On top of that our defence looks like you could drive a bus through the middle of it and all season we've consistently gifted players free headers in the box.

Oh well, it's only the gooners up next. If Criches plays I may well take a couple of valiums before kick off.

 

[spursbri111]

So Everton, Liverpool, Spurs and United all lost and Chelsea and City drew.


Mildly positive I suppose...

not for me. if we could have killed off sunderland and won today we would have been clear 2nd on 12 points.

 

[TH1239]

I'd be astounded if we did any serious business in January. People think it's some sort of lock that we will buy Jay Rodriguez when Southampton can comfortably hold onto him, as he still has 1.5 years left on his contract. They will quote us something astronomical, we won't pay, and then we'll likely buy no one.

 

[diamondlight]

Fair enough - if we getting a heavy beating next week I agree the pressure could start

What odds on Sherwood back in charge before Christmas?

 

[prawnsandwich]

What odds on Sherwood back in charge before Christmas?

At least he knew what to do against the lower teams. None of this 1 striker playing at home bollox.

 

[RickyVilla]

Just listening to the radio where a 94 year old Spurs fan called in.

Season ticket holder who's supported Spurs for nearly 90 years said it was one of the worst performances at the lane that he's seen.

Was it A&C?

 

[Marty]

We always do this. No matter who the manager is, no matter who our players are, no matter what system we try to play, no matter anything at all. At least one home game against a lower table team is a complete clusterfuck where nothing goes right. Let's hope it's just the one this season.

There really was an alarming lack of effort, especially when comparing our performance to the City - Chelsea game. Admittedly our players aren't quite at their level and WBA did everything they could to stifle us but everything we did was just shockingly slow, sloppy and ... simply dreadful. Just can't put it any other way.

Rose was probably the one player who least disgraced himself. The amount of times Chiriches was beaten or turned was mortifying, Dembele was terribly slow in everything he did (as per usual), and Eriksen was for the most part nowhere to be found in play and didn't take a single decent set piece. Those three really stood out negatively for me.

As I said, let's hope we only fuck everything up once at home to a bottom half side this season.

 

[markiespurs]

What a truly gutless and heartless performance from our players today. They should all be thoughly ashamed of themselves after the lack of effort they put in.

 

[Spurs 1961]

When the malignant dwarf appointed Poch to the seat of death a LOT of posters were suggesting we'd get the odd day like this, that Rome wasn't built in a day and how we'd have the occasional setback or two.

And so it comes to pass that it happens.

So i'm a bit surprised at the rush to stick our collective heads in the oven.

Yes it is going to take a while to get the team turned around, but losing hurts nevertheless.

What is impossible to ignore is how all the top teams have started. In general only Chelsea have played well and this weekend last seasons top seven managed five points between them. So that makes me think the World Cup, international breaks and the early European games have inhibited the development of all these teams this season.

 

[Indacupfortottenham]

This give and go nowhere football has to stop!
Why don't we move the ball quicker in the final third?
We lack width and pace going forward and are not direct enough.
Hard to watch at the moment!

 

[markiespurs]

Don't know about anyone else, but after todays performance I'm really struggling to see where our next 3 points are going to come from.

 

[shelfboy68]

Not long back from the game.

What a truly disgraceful performance that was. No quality at all and even worse a disturbing lack of urgency or guts.

I've been saying all sumner that the players aren't good enough and nothing has changed my mind. We are just poor in the final third with no pace whatsoever and completely powder puff up front. Yet we saw fit not to make any attacking signings this window. Ridiculous decision.

This was our strongest line up as well attacking wise so God knows what will happen if we have an injury crisis.

Eriksen is our best outfield player, but he looks lost in this system, more often than not appearing on the right, where he has little effect.

We haven't bought a single player who can really make a difference and spent £10m on left back who cannot even pose a real threat to Danny Rose's place.

Yes we played pretty well at Sunderland, but a better team would have simply put the game beyond them and it's symptomatic of our lack of attacking potency.

On top of that our defence looks like you could drive a bus through the middle of it and all season we've consistently gifted players free headers in the box.

Oh well, it's only the gooners up next. If Criches plays I may well take a couple of valiums before kick off.

The problems lay at the feet of Levy/enic the manager at spurs whoever it is at the time is just a stoog when you have a commitee making decisions on who to buy.
Its not all pochs fault as he is working with his hands tied most of the time not a lot he can do although he must find a way of getting us creating and scoring.
I will be happy if we put 10 behind the ball next week and try and get a draw but realisticly its going to be bad.

 

[Barry Mead]

I have said us much in other posts. Poch probably thought Kaboul and Verts were good enough against the mighty West Brom. And they should have been. They weren't. I hope he doesn't get caught out again. I'm not that bothered about the captain's roll. There's not a leader amongst the whole squad and Roy Keane wouldn't have made much difference today.

Yes Poch is to share the blame. But the majority of it is against the players. They weren't interested, couldn't be bothered. I'll never accept that Poch said go and stroll around for 90 minutes boys and only pass 5 yards sideways!

Well if arguably 7 or 8 out of your 11 starters played like they aren't interested it has to raise questions about the coach's selection ability and his motivational ability and that's my point, the easy way to avoid players strolling around is to not pick them, or to motivate them so that if they do play they at least put in effort and have some ideas of their responsibility.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Just logged on, who are we hating now? What thread can I read to avoid the suicidal ones? My 2 cents is that this is another season in transition. Please don't turn on the manager too quick. We need to stick by one for a while, y'know like, longer than half a season....

How many transitions do you want? We have been in transition for the last 10 years.

 

[Shea]

What odds on Sherwood back in charge before Christmas?

I meant fan pressure - I really don't think Levy will consider a managerial change this season since we've not really invested in this manager yet

(I know you were joking about Timmy btw)

 

[CrazyHeart]

Even joking about Sherwood coming back is quite disturbing.

 

[jezz]

Well if arguably 7 or 8 out of your 11 starters played like they aren't interested it has to raise questions about the coach's selection ability and his motivational ability and that's my point, the easy way to avoid players strolling around is to not pick them, or to motivate them so that if they do play they at least put in effort and have some ideas of their responsibility.

If those 7 or 8 player's played well the previous game, then what is the manager supposed to do?
He's not pyshic?
So you're post is a week early, don't you think? Or did you forget the Sunderland game?

 

[goughie1966]

Well if arguably 7 or 8 out of your 11 starters played like they aren't interested it has to raise questions about the coach's selection ability and his motivational ability and that's my point, the easy way to avoid players strolling around is to not pick them, or to motivate them so that if they do play they at least put in effort and have some ideas of their responsibility.

He motivated his players at Southampton. But they've come through the divisions and are/were hungry. Our lot are a bunch who think they're better than they are. And they don't give a shit. That goes for many who didn't make the first 11. Verts couldn't care less, Lennon, Towsend, Paulinho, geez very depressing.

 

[spurslenny]

Seems to me the climate of mediocrity is instilled from the top down.

For all Levy's talk of world class this and world class that, the truth is we had one lucky season when the traditional top 4 were in a state of flux, and City had yet to get their house in order, and hey presto, Spurs get into the CL. From that point on we were all blinded that this would be the springboard to bigger and better things. We expected Stella summer signings to reflect out new found status, and all we got was a lucky last minute VDV buy.
His managerial appoints have for the most part been average, except for Redknapp that he lucked out on. I mean, he took over to save us from relegation. No one expected him to propel us from bottom 3 to top 4 in 18 months, least of all Levy.

Levy's triumphs have all been off pitch. Training ground, shirt deals, sponsorships, potential new stadium etc.
His tough negotiating tactics have been just as much of a mill stone to us as a benefit, but in all honesty have probably cost us more in the long run than they have saved us.

The only answer to the 'how you solve a problem like tottenham?', in my humble opinion, is to transform the club from top to bottom.

And that starts with ENIC hurrying the fuck up and selling up.