Tottenham Vs West Brom: Match Thread

[goughie1966]

Just listening to the radio where a 94 year old Spurs fan called in.

Season ticket holder who's supported Spurs for nearly 90 years said it was one of the worst performances at the lane that he's seen.

At least he saw us win a title. I won't in my lifetime.

 

[DannySafer]

Judging on today's performance, making Kaboul captain wasn't the most inspiring decision.

 

[tom4s]

My only positive from this game is the chance that Vlad has played himself out of any starting XI for good. He plays more like a zombie than a vampire.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

We should have got as much as we could for rose, Kaboul, Townsend and soldado. But instead he decided to keep them.
They'll be worth nothing next summer.
Davies looks below average and can't even get in above rose. Meanwhile our best left back is in purgatory for no apparent reason.
Walker seems to be "King'd" so we're playing an inexperienced centre back at right back.

The whole summer was wasted. They players on they pitch look shit because they are shit and we missed opportunities to fix that. And that's not the players fault.

If money was tight to be able to bring players in why hold on to the shite that we have. We were offered 10mil for Townsend we should have taken it and a couple of Spanish clubs wanted Soldado. Why keep him especially as he is hardly going to get a game.

I think Baldini and Levy don't want to admit they bought a pile of crap last season and are hoping they come good. Well the manager can't work miracles if the players are not good enough. Only one of our squad would get into city, chelsea or the Arse and that is Lloris.

 

[jolsnogross]

He was building a structure while still grinding out results. You also make it sound like every single game under him was a boring sludge-fest, which clearly wasn't the case. In most of 'those' games it was the strikers (chiefly Soldado) that accounted for the goal droughts. Chances were created, but the finishing was the problem... that's down to the players.

This is massive revisionism. We were grinding out results without a doubt, but we were not creating decent chances. And then getting found out by good teams. Even when we had a decent season and finished 5th, goals didn't emerge from proper chances but worldies from Bale. Since AVB took the reigns, we've become a side that does not regularly create 5 or 6 good chances per game that it takes to win. Poch's number one job is to undo that. We are unwatchable in most of the games we play.

 

[markiespurs]

Judging on today's performance, making Kaboul captain wasn't the most inspiring decision.

Problem is, we don't exactly have a load of candidates for the Captains armband. Over the last two seasons we've sold any outfield player who has even an ounce of leadership quality.

 

[goughie1966]

Don't know about anyone else, but after todays performance I'm really struggling to see where our next 3 points are going to come from.

26th October. Home to Newcastle. Unfortunately we have Arsenal and City away and Southampton at home before that. So the Newcastle game becomes a relegation 6 pointer.

 

[jezz]

This is massive revisionism. We were grinding out results without a doubt, but we were not creating decent chances. And then getting found out by good teams. Even when we had a decent season and finished 5th, goals didn't emerge from proper chances but worldies from Bale. Since AVB took the reigns, we've become a side that does not regularly create 5 or 6 good chances per game that it takes to win. Poch's number one job is to undo that. We are unwatchable in most of the games we play.

Do you only post when we lose?

 

[only1waddle]

Problem is, we don't exactly have a load of candidates for the Captains armband. Over the last two seasons we've sold any outfield player who has even an ounce of leadership quality.

I thought ITK suggested we were going to solve the issue of leadership, doesn't look like we have at the moment.

 

[johnny69]

Just got home from watching the worst performance I've ever seen at the lane,really angry at the way we threw away what should have been a comfortable 3 points,total shite

 

[FinnYid]

Everton will drop points today as well after the Europa lol

Hammer Wolfsburg and struggle against Palace!

At least they were good at Europe

 

[shelfboy68]

Seems to me the climate of mediocrity is instilled from the top down.

For all Levy's talk of world class this and world class that, the truth is we had one lucky season when the traditional top 4 were in a state of flux, and City had yet to get their house in order, and hey presto, Spurs get into the CL. From that point on we were all blinded that this would be the springboard to bigger and better things. We expected Stella summer signings to reflect out new found status, and all we got was a lucky last minute VDV buy.
His managerial appoints have for the most part been average, except for Redknapp that he lucked out on. I mean, he took over to save us from relegation. No one expected him to propel us from bottom 3 to top 4 in 18 months, least of all Levy.

Levy's triumphs have all been off pitch. Training ground, shirt deals, sponsorships, potential new stadium etc.
His tough negotiating tactics have been just as much of a mill stone to us as a benefit, but in all honesty have probably cost us more in the long run than they have saved us.

The only answer to the 'how you solve a problem like tottenham?', in my humble opinion, is to transform the club from top to bottom.

And that starts with ENIC hurrying the fuck up and selling up.

Top quality post.

 

[jolsnogross]

Do you only post when we lose?

You can probably check into that yourself. I post reasonably often before and after games. I'm not as reactionary as some and can take a defeat reasonably well. WBA actually played perfectly well today and the comments that they 'stifled us' are wide of the ark. They out fought us, created way more clear chances, and deserved their win.

I bang the drum about the speed of our play and the lack of attacking options fairly often because since Harry left, we've got no urgency and are terrible to watch. Even when we win sometimes, it's more of a grind than a compelling performance.

So I also post things like that after we lose as well. Are you looking for a hug?

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

My first game of the season and it felt like deja vu to the performances of AVB early last season.

Please no more Adebayor who is a fraud of a footballer, playing 4-5 games a season when it suits him and no more Chiriches until he learns how to play in England.

 

[Mr Pink]

At least they were good at Europe

True...but anyone who thinks the Europa League doesn't affect league performances are dreaming.

 

[only1waddle]

The biggest question for me is where was the pressing? seriously, i thought the whole point of resting this PL 11 from Europa matches was to give them an extra edge come the weekend, i would have preferred less rotation of the front 4 today if we could see some pressing, coherent that is not just the odd one doing it.

 

[jezz]

You can probably check into that yourself. I post reasonably often before and after games. I'm not as reactionary as some and can take a defeat reasonably well. WBA actually played perfectly well today and the comments that they 'stifled us' are wide of the ark. They out fought us, created way more clear chances, and deserved their win.

I bang the drum about the speed of our play and the lack of attacking options fairly often because since Harry left, we've got no urgency and are terrible to watch. Even when we win sometimes, it's more of a grind than a compelling performance.

So I also post things like that after we lose as well. Are you looking for a hug?

No hug, just a little patience after 5 league games.

 

[only1waddle]

True...but anyone who thinks the Europa League doesn't affect league performances are dreaming.

7 days rest for our lot didn't do much either

 

[StartingPrice]

Seems to me the climate of mediocrity is instilled from the top down.

For all Levy's talk of world class this and world class that, the truth is we had one lucky season when the traditional top 4 were in a state of flux, and City had yet to get their house in order, and hey presto, Spurs get into the CL. From that point on we were all blinded that this would be the springboard to bigger and better things. We expected Stella summer signings to reflect out new found status, and all we got was a lucky last minute VDV buy.
His managerial appoints have for the most part been average, except for Redknapp that he lucked out on. I mean, he took over to save us from relegation. No one expected him to propel us from bottom 3 to top 4 in 18 months, least of all Levy.

Levy's triumphs have all been off pitch. Training ground, shirt deals, sponsorships, potential new stadium etc.
His tough negotiating tactics have been just as much of a mill stone to us as a benefit, but in all honesty have probably cost us more in the long run than they have saved us.

The only answer to the 'how you solve a problem like tottenham?', in my humble opinion, is to transform the club from top to bottom.

And that starts with ENIC hurrying the fuck up and selling up.

Your argument is killed stone dead at the outset by the plain and simple fact that we have finished 4th twice and not once!

The truth is this, we are the sixth best financed club in the EPL, and yet since Levy made the institutional changes he did after the GHodd debacle we have finished either fifth or fourth on more occasions than we have finished par (or sixth). Levy/ENIC have, therefore, by definition had us punching above our weight. This has been stated so many times before, and a disappointing performance on the pitch just ain't gonna change that.

And the notion that Levy's tough dealing has hurt us so much is totally impossible to prove, and therefore pointless to claim. All chairpersons are tough negotiators. They didn't inhabit a Shangi fecking La of chairpersons, bending over backwards to give one another players as cheaply as possible - or preferably for nothing. It wasn't Utopia. What did folk imaginable Levy should have done? See this valuable asset, yeah, well I'd like to get £12 million for him, but feck it, you can have him for ten bob...I'm cutting off my own nose but I'll give you two other players I want shot off at prices you like, just to get him off my hands. He's not a dodgy market-trader selling knock-off watches that stop after a week by the suitcase

He's made mistakes - everyone does. The oil mafioso fappers among our own supporters kinda brush over the fact that Abrahmovich pissed off their most successful manager ever just because he (Roman) is such an arrogant c*ck of a **** and then spent eons appointing one manager after another to try and cover up his monumental blunder - but, hey, he bought (quite literally) some trophies for a bunch of classless Chav ****s, so lets just pretend he is a model chairman, eh. LoL.

 

[shelfboy68]

I'd be astounded if we did any serious business in January. People think it's some sort of lock that we will buy Jay Rodriguez when Southampton can comfortably hold onto him, as he still has 1.5 years left on his contract. They will quote us something astronomical, we won't pay, and then we'll likely buy no one.

I think your being a bit harsh yes Rodriguez will be out Our of price tag he will cost over 10 million at least big dough.
So its likely we will go for a cheaper alternative albeit a more experienced player in the shape of Jimmy greaves he is willing to come and is not injured and more importantly will only want 100 quid a Week plus a loan of a Ford anglia.