Tottenham Vs West Brom: Match Thread

[dondo]

True...but anyone who thinks the Europa League doesn't affect league performances are dreaming.

How can it effect us when we made 10 outfield changes and 5 of those didn't even make the trip?

 

[Gilzeanking]

True...but anyone who thinks the Europa League doesn't affect league performances are dreaming.

Very true . For me taking the players out of their routine and sticking them on a plane to East Europe and back , even though not playing them out there ,seems to affect their energy levels .

 

[only1waddle]

I think your being a bit harsh yes Rodriguez will be out Our of price tag he will cost over 10 million at least big dough.
So its likely we will go for a cheaper alternative albeit a more experienced player in the shape of Jimmy greaves he is willing to come and is not injured and more importantly will only want 100 quid a Week plus a loan of a Ford anglia.

Ford Anglia you say, where do i sign....

 

[shelfboy68]

Your argument is killed stone dead at the outset by the plain and simple fact that we have finished 4th twice and not once!

The truth is this, we are the sixth best financed club in the EPL, and yet since Levy made the institutional changes he did after the GHodd debacle we have finished either fifth or fourth on more occasions than we have finished par (or sixth). Levy/ENIC have, therefore, by definition had us punching above our weight. This has been stated so many times before, and a disappointing performance on the pitch just ain't gonna change that.

And the notion that Levy's tough dealing has hurt us so much is totally impossible to prove, and therefore pointless to claim. All chairpersons are tough negotiators. They didn't inhabit a Shangi fecking La of chairpersons, bending over backwards to give one another players as cheaply as possible - or preferably for nothing. It wasn't Utopia. What did folk imaginable Levy should have done? See this valuable asset, yeah, well I'd like to get £12 million for him, but feck it, you can have him for ten bob...I'm cutting off my own nose but I'll give you two other players I want shot off at prices you like, just to get him off my hands. He's not a dodgy market-trader selling knock-off watches that stop after a week by the suitcase

He's made mistakes - everyone does. The oil mafioso fappers among our own supporters kinda brush over the fact that Abrahmovich pissed off their most successful manager ever just because he (Roman) is such an arrogant c*ck of a **** and then spent eons appointing one manager after another to try and cover up his monumental blunder - but, hey, he bought (quite literally) some trophies for a bunch of classless Chav ****s, so lets just pretend he is a model chairman, eh. LoL.

You Said it yourself they won countless trophies and raised the club profile from No one to world wide appeal.
I dont think many Chelsea fans are worried or pissed off with their chairman.

 

[slartibartfast]

My first game of the season and it felt like deja vu to the performances of AVB early last season.

Please no more Adebayor who is a fraud of a footballer, playing 4-5 games a season when it suits him and no more Chiriches until he learns how to play in England.

My first this season was Liverpool and with 5hr round trip and cost of fuel I'll be buggered if I'm gonna fork out for performances like that again in a hurry.
I can take losing but not no effort slow boring shit.
Why the fu*k would anyone play 2 def mid and1 up front at home against a team that hasn't won an away game in something like 30 games or whatever it was???
Makes no sense to me at all.
Edit- whatever.

 

[scottlag10]

Lloris = The whole 'nobody on the back post thing' does my head in, is this the Managers or keepers decision?
Dier = The lad is having to play at RB when long term he looks like he might make a top CB
Rose = Oh the irony that we buy his replacement and now he is probably playing the best of all
Kaboul = Just cant see him getting back to the beast he was, as for being Captain when should he even be in the team?
Chiriches = Tries to be clever in the wrong areas, just think the Premiership is too fast for him
Eriksen = Second half of last season was our shining light, this system does not suit him, he needs to be central!
Lamela = Waiting for the breakthrough moment, promises so much, but it all comes to nothing when he loses the ball
Capoue = Played OK and he gets it and gives it, not his fault those he give it to do nothing with it
Dembele = Started game well and I thought he was moving the ball faster, then back to normal
Chadli = Goals he has scored are covering up the little impact he has, cant beat anybody with the ball at his feet
Adebayor = When he plays bad we play bad, worried that we rely so much on him, should of got to a 1st half cross
Lennon = Runs a lot
Soldado = We so need him to come good, could be a long wait
Paulinho = Does absolutely nothing, cant run, pass, tackle or shoot

 

[tony0379]

Sherwood now 7/2 to come back

 

[spurslenny]

Your argument is killed stone dead at the outset by the plain and simple fact that we have finished 4th twice and not once!

The truth is this, we are the sixth best financed club in the EPL, and yet since Levy made the institutional changes he did after the GHodd debacle we have finished either fifth or fourth on more occasions than we have finished par (or sixth). Levy/ENIC have, therefore, by definition had us punching above our weight. This has been stated so many times before, and a disappointing performance on the pitch just ain't gonna change that.

And the notion that Levy's tough dealing has hurt us so much is totally impossible to prove, and therefore pointless to claim. All chairpersons are tough negotiators. They didn't inhabit a Shangi fecking La of chairpersons, bending over backwards to give one another players as cheaply as possible - or preferably for nothing. It wasn't Utopia. What did folk imaginable Levy should have done? See this valuable asset, yeah, well I'd like to get £12 million for him, but feck it, you can have him for ten bob...I'm cutting off my own nose but I'll give you two other players I want shot off at prices you like, just to get him off my hands. He's not a dodgy market-trader selling knock-off watches that stop after a week by the suitcase

He's made mistakes - everyone does. The oil mafioso fappers among our own supporters kinda brush over the fact that Abrahmovich pissed off their most successful manager ever just because he (Roman) is such an arrogant c*ck of a **** and then spent eons appointing one manager after another to try and cover up his monumental blunder - but, hey, he bought (quite literally) some trophies for a bunch of classless Chav ****s, so lets just pretend he is a model chairman, eh. LoL.

Our other top4 finish materialised through none other than the one man show that is Gareth Bale. And that is being more or less bourne out by the fact that our recruitment under Levy and Baldini's stewardship, while lavish, is flawed as well. See results on the pitch for the last season and a bit. Who else has looked capable of firing us to top4? Not one of them I would suggest.

And to counter your other point, IF Levy was happy with us 'punching above our weight' why sack every manager that has gone on to achieve this feat??

IF he was unhappy with the said results, what the fuck was he expecting???

Eitherway, he was trigger happy or asking the earth. No middle ground there as far as I can see.

To add to me quoted post, levy also lucked out with Jol too. Unless he had some foresight that sacking Santini, replacing him with his number2, and witnessing a run to the brink of 4th that had been a million miles from even the most optimistic Spurs fan's dreams, but I doubt it. Truth is he took the affordable option (nothing wrong with that at that point in time I hasten to add).

 

[dondo]

Very true . For me taking the players out of their routine and sticking them on a plane to East Europe and back , even though not playing them out there ,seems to affect their energy levels .

Not sure if serious?????

 

[haydsmith]

All those that were so confident that all we needed was a "proper coach" are I assume seeing how wrong they are now. It was only a matter of time before average performances by average players led to average results. Should be ok to stay up but won't be much more than that with this group. Put 5 managers in, they'll still be bang average.

 

[iluvsteffenfreund]

Luckily we didn't play Bentaleb in midfield or it could have been a lot worse...eh?

No he would of made the world of difference, really grabs games like that by the scruff of the neck...... Ha! Great post though mate

 

[Yiddo1982]

I think the best we can do is have a season off, just enjoy each game as it comes, and hope for a exciting cup run. For the first time I'm going to refuse to look at the table or get too worked up.

 

[StartingPrice]

You Said it yourself they won countless trophies and raised the club profile from No one to world wide appeal.
I dont think many Chelsea fans are worried or pissed off with their chairman.

Yes, but sacking Mourinho out of sheer arrogance was a mistake of monumental proportions - it far and away dwarfs any shit Levy/ENIC has pulled. And that reduces the complaints against Levy/ENIC to being that they can't make up for any monumental blunders they make by pouring huge and obscene amounts of money, stolen from the population of another country, into the club in a way that totally and utterly distorts the game. Just so long as that is being acknowledged then I'm that's fine

 

[Mr Pink]

How can it effect us when we made 10 outfield changes and 5 of those didn't even make the trip?

I was talking more about Everton.

But still, it has an affect. Why even bother taking some of them. Less time to prepare as well.

 

[haydsmith]

Tottenham Hotspur at home to the league's bottom club and being thoroughly outplayed is unacceptable. Never looked like scoring. People always make out we're so much better under Enic than Sugar. I remember many home matches like today in Sugar years. With this group of players, there will be many more too.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

26th October. Home to Newcastle. Unfortunately we have Arsenal and City away and Southampton at home before that. So the Newcastle game becomes a relegation 6 pointer.

The sad fact is that this could well be true by then, no way we beat City or Arsenal and even Southampton have looked more together then we have. I can easily see us being bottom half of the table come Newcastle.

 

[dondo]

I was talking more about Everton.

But still, it has an affect. Why even bother taking some of them. Less time to prepare as well.

We have to take a squad of 16 bare minimum to EL away games and we have a squad of 25 for EPL So there has to be a few 1st 11 players going or we couldn't make the squad

 

[eddiebailey]

We have to take a squad of 16 bare minimum to EL away games and we have a squad of 25 for EPL So there has to be a few 1st 11 players going or we couldn't make the squad

We could take some youngsters. We really did not need to take as strong squad to Belgrade as we did. Mason, Veljkovic and Ceballos if (he had been registered) could have taken bench spaces, and the it would have been good experience for the likes of Ball and Onomah.

 

[shelfboy68]

Yes, but sacking Mourinho out of sheer arrogance was a mistake of monumental proportions - it far and away dwarfs any shit Levy/ENIC has pulled. And that reduces the complaints against Levy/ENIC to being that they can't make up for any monumental blunders they make by pouring huge and obscene amounts of money, stolen from the population of another country, into the club in a way that totally and utterly distorts the game. Just so long as that is being acknowledged then I'm that's fine

Course it was arrogance this man has an ego and wealth the size of russia but how he got his money is not for us to decide thats for the goverment or KGB isnt it.
The fact is he has swallowed his pride brought Mourinho back and May well win another title along side all the others i cant help feeling envious at their haul of which We will never achieve under enic.
Surely if we can aqquire New owners that can get us closer to teams like them that has to be better for the long term future of the club unless your happy with the status quo.

 

[alfiespurs]

Fair enough - if we getting a heavy beating next week I agree the pressure could start

We are going to get a BEATING ...