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ibbz

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Well, let's forget about CL for the foreseeable future, so sod it.
It's about enjoying the spectacle regardless..
 

mpickard2087

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Jun 13, 2008
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ive been pro levy forever...

but what the fuck was that??????????....

also, is jake livermore better than JJ or even worse is he better than JOH???

not a chance!!...baaaaaad management

Possibly yes. And besides as a young player he can probably improve learning his game more and finding his feet at PL level, whilst training with some very good players everyday. I dont really think you can say the same for Jenas, who, lets be honest is probably in need of a change of scenery.

Plus its much cheaper to have Livermore as 5th/6th choice at centre mid than JJ.
 

kaz Hirai

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Modric - who is here
Hudd - who is getting fitter and was the CM when we finished 4th
Sandro - who is back in training (he said himself)
Parker - player of the year last season

Not a bad midfield when you just need 2 of them

palacios partnered Hudd for the majority of that season, and frankly i dont rate him highly at all

sandro is going to take some time to get back to fitness and sharpness

oh scott parker, who knows really. i hope he is good, never bothered to watch west ham at all, he looked out of his depth when he played for england though

if sandro and parker get injuried around then we are looking a bit clownish again, maybe we'll play a sulking modric with niko again :-|

but its not even the midfield that worries me, its the back line, still having to rely on kaboul and the not quite safe dawson.

Also the fact that defoe and pav are useless so we effectively have one striker, and right now one person who can score since VDV is out for 2 months or more

it all just seems paper thin to me, 1st choice starting 11 is very strong but outside of that, its just shit
 

NEVILLEB

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Nov 6, 2006
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It gives me no pleasure to have been right about Levy's transfer strategy.

We still have a good chance of 4th although I think Cahill would have probably secured it. I expect Liverpool with Bellamy to be the favourites.

Glad to see so many members eyes are finally opened. All that hassle and disruption to sign a player who was available in June for under 10M
 

StartingPrice

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Feb 13, 2004
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It gives me no pleasure to have been right about Levy's transfer strategy.

We still have a good chance of 4th although I think Cahill would have probably secured it. I expect Liverpool with Bellamy to be the favourites.

Glad to see so many members eyes are finally opened. All that hassle and disruption to sign a player who was available in June for under 10M

:clap:

DOF or conventional manager who can be trusted with tranfers, please...Levy don't cut it as his own surrogate DOF :roll:
 

kkemal

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Jun 15, 2008
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Jesus thankfully you are all starting to see levys true colours! I've been saying it on here for a good few years now! Ade and parker are good deals and we have a half decent team. If players like Defoe, lennon and parker perform well as well as Ade we can maybe pinch 4 off of the scum or most likely liverpool! Parker should have been signed 2 months ago and a deal for cahil should have been attempted ages ago! We should also have gone in for Downing and charlie adam!

I hate levy!!!!!! Want the guy gone! Hopefully some rich arab takes a fancy to us and then we can be rid of Levy and co!
 

fortworthspur

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Nov 12, 2007
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there's no good way to spin this one. we didnt act like a club that was serious about its CL aspirations. 4th is certainly possible, but we have to get very lucky with form and injuries, and considering Sandro and VdV are already out.......
 

alpha

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Jun 27, 2005
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look at it this way

Out : Hutton In : Walker - we take a risk in playing youth
Out : Jenas In : Livermore - Again we promote youth
Out : Palacios : In Parker - We sign writers player of the year and add some experience a winner and some grit and a true box to box player good signing!.
Out : Bentley : In Iago Falque & Townsend!- We try to play youth again!
Out : Keane & Crouch In : Adebayor - Great Upgrade!

So the club get rid of everyone we all wanted shot at and still get slated when we finally promote youth!.

GK'S - 3
Friedel,Gomes,Cudicini
Fine got one class keeper on his day and one for when his howlers happen we have cover!

Right Backs - 2
Corluka,Walker *Kaboul*
We now have a mix of Pace and Youth with clever and quality!

Centre Backs 5
Gallas,King,Bassong,Dawson,Kaboul, *Walker,Corluka,Huddlestone*

Okay might have needed one player but fine get on with it!

Left Back 2
Ekotto,Rose *Bale*
Enough cover not so sure about what will happen when BAE goes to AFC

Right Midfield 3
Lennon,Iago Falque,Townsend *Kranjcar,Modric,Bale,Giovani,Walker,Pienaar,VDV*
3 plus 7 that can cover

Defensive Midfield 2
Sandro,Huddlestone *Parker*
2 Plus 1 for cover

Centre Midfield 3
Modric,Parker,Livermore *Sandro,Huddlestone,Falque,Corluka,Kaboul,Pienaar*
3 plus 6 for cover
Attacking Midfield 2
Van Der Vaart,Kranjcar,*Modric,Pienaar,Falque,Lennon,Bale,Giovani*
2 plus 6 for cover

Left Midfield 1
Bale *Lennon,Kranjcar,Giovani,Pienaar,Falque,VDV,*
1 plus 6 for cover

Strikers 3
Adebayor,Pavulychenko,Defoe*Giovani,VDV*
Plenty Enough as we norm play 1 up top!

Plus some youth like Coulibally,Kane,Carroll,Nicholson,

we now have enough for our 25 man squad and its plenty strong enough so stop the fucking bitching and get behind our boys

You wanted a uber striker we got one you wanted a new cm we got one you wanted a centre back we didnt get one woopdy doo bassong was part of the team that finished 4th!


If people put their disappointments aside then, and look at this with a pint half full viewpoint, it is hard not to be very happy about that squad.

If we started with this squad last season I reckon we would have had a better shot at getting 4th.
 

StartingPrice

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If people put their disappointments aside then, and look at this with a pint half full viewpoint, it is hard not to be very happy about that squad. If we started with this squad last season I reckon we would have had a better shot at getting 4th.

I agree...but am still a tad disappointed.
With this squad we can compete for 4th.
With Cahill and another striker I think we would be favourites. And that should have been achievable.
 

kaz Hirai

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so dos santos is still here then, thought he had his choice of seville, udinese and wigan. wonder if he will get in the 25 man team
 

alpha

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I agree...but am still a tad disappointed.
With this squad we can compete for 4th.
With Cahill and another striker I think we would be favourites. And that should have been achievable.

Had Spurs drew both the Manc games would you still be as disappointed? There has been a general state of uncertainty surrounding so many Spurs players this summer, that with out doubt has cast an unsettling atmosphere within the club.

Now the window is closed everyone can now move on, re-group (we don't always get what we want!!) - and I am sure Harry is more than capable of picking them up and getting the squad back on a winning streak ala 2010. Now with some proven added reinforcements.
 

StartingPrice

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Had Spurs drew both the Manc games would you still be as disappointed? There has been a general state of uncertainty surrounding so many Spurs players this summer, that with out doubt has cast an unsettling atmosphere within the club.

Now the window is closed everyone can now move on, re-group (we don't always get what we want!!) - and I am sure Harry is more than capable of picking them up and getting the squad back on a winning streak ala 2010. Now with some proven added reinforcements.

Yes.
I'm not knee-jerking.
I have been patient and advocated patience for a couple of years now.
I think we have enough to compete for 4th, and I am really happy that we have put a marker down by not selling any of our top players.

But there is a danger that is could turn into a pyrrhic victory.
The problem is that Levy needs to either hire a DOF or hire a conventional manager who he trusts to conduct transfer business. What we have now is a half-way house, where Levy acts as his own DOF, and doesn't do a great job.

By all accounts, there was money to spend. If a DOF/manager had been allocated funds at the end of May, would we really have failed to sign Cahill at the last minute. Or just sign one striker? I don't think so. It is all about fine margins, and that fine margin (another striker and CB of quality) are the difference between us being able to compete for 4th, which we will be able to do, and being favourites for 4th, which, IMHO, we would have been if we had got those two players.
 

mpickard2087

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Yes.
I'm not knee-jerking.
I have been patient and advocated patience for a couple of years now.
I think we have enough to compete for 4th, and I am really happy that we have put a marker down by not selling any of our top players.

But there is a danger that is could turn into a pyrrhic victory.
The problem is that Levy needs to either hire a DOF or hire a conventional manager who he trusts to conduct transfer business. What we have now is a half-way house, where Levy acts as his own DOF, and doesn't do a great job.

By all accounts, there was money to spend. If a DOF/manager had been allocated funds at the end of May, would we really have failed to sign Cahill at the last minute. Or just sign one striker? I don't think so. It is all about fine margins, and that fine margin (another striker and CB of quality) are the difference between us being able to compete for 4th, which we will be able to do, and being favourites for 4th, which, IMHO, we would have been if we had got those two players.

Welcome to the dark side SP :wink:
 

StartingPrice

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Welcome to the dark side SP :wink:

I feel dirty :grin:

Nah, if I'm honest, I have kinda been feeling like that more and more. I jsut don't see any value in knee-jerking. The first thing anyone who disagrees says is that it is knee-jerking. I don't think anyone can accuse me of that.

Time for Levy to either reinstate a DOF system, nomatter the consequences for Redknapp, or go with a conventional manager he trusts to conduct transfer business - no matter the consequences for Redknapp.
 

dirky88

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Were SCREWED. Kaboom and Dawson as our main (fit) cbs and one capable striker!!! Levy sure isn't bothered about getting back in the champions league and must be saving all the money he can towards the stadium?? Only possible explanation in my eyes
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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Can anyone blame Levy for not letting Harry spunk £50m on high wage, PL proven guys, he likes, when he knows he will be managing England this time next year and then he will have to shift most of them out as another manager shapes this squad?

We are on a holding pattern for the year IMO...
 

alpha

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Jun 27, 2005
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Yes.
I'm not knee-jerking.
I have been patient and advocated patience for a couple of years now.
I think we have enough to compete for 4th, and I am really happy that we have put a marker down by not selling any of our top players.

But there is a danger that is could turn into a pyrrhic victory.
The problem is that Levy needs to either hire a DOF or hire a conventional manager who he trusts to conduct transfer business. What we have now is a half-way house, where Levy acts as his own DOF, and doesn't do a great job.

By all accounts, there was money to spend. If a DOF/manager had been allocated funds at the end of May, would we really have failed to sign Cahill at the last minute. Or just sign one striker? I don't think so. It is all about fine margins, and that fine margin (another striker and CB of quality) are the difference between us being able to compete for 4th, which we will be able to do, and being favourites for 4th, which, IMHO, we would have been if we had got those two players.

I subscribe to what you're saying, and perhaps it was an opportunity to show real intent on putting a squad together capable of winning the league! Had that happened early in the summer then I am sure we'd have seen a positive statement coming from Modric and not had to endure two crushing defeats. Who know's what is going on behind the scenes, but it is pretty much widely agreed Harry will be leaving next summer so I am sure Levy - whom I thought had plans anyway - will return back to the DOF system.
 

mpickard2087

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Jun 13, 2008
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I feel dirty :grin:

Nah, if I'm honest, I have kinda been feeling like that more and more. I jsut don't see any value in knee-jerking. The first thing anyone who disagrees says is that it is knee-jerking. I don't think anyone can accuse me of that.

Time for Levy to either reinstate a DOF system, nomatter the consequences for Redknapp, or go with a conventional manager he trusts to conduct transfer business - no matter the consequences for Redknapp.

I back Levy all the way most of the time but this is the one thing I think he does need to change his approach on, he seems to like to have his say on transfers far too much. He should back Harry and let him bring in the players he wants, or get a new manager who's philosophy on signings matches his own. But either way less meddling and let the manager pick the player.
 
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