Match Threads Watford vs Spurs - Match Thread

[George94]

Also, shout out to Tanganga. Thought he had a really tough first half and could have fallen to pieces but was really solid second half.

 

[JayB]

Mourinho can do that all he wants but we know it will have no effect on levy.

Agree. After five windows of total inaction following Wanyama's knee injury I'm not sure there's anything in the known universe that could move Levy to buy a fucking DM. It all feels completely hopeless.

 

[PaulM]

Joe Cole says Capoue’s challenge not a red, and then compares it to Aubameyang’s tackle last week

Joe Cole is an illiterate fuckwit who genuinely hates us. How he is making a living talking about anything is beyond me.

This is the man, when talking about Fabio Capello's England reign, said "me and the boys were wondering what's going on here. I mean, he don't speak no English."

A cretin.

 

[mpickard2087]

Honestly think it was a case of us struggling with the physical battle today, and considering the players we had available there was not a lot Jose could have done on that front. The only mistake I feel was Tanganga at LB to take on what looked like a traditional right winger.

Yeah I don't really get the criticism overall. We picked a technical side to get the ball on the deck and play football and control the game in their half. There are two teams involved though and bar the first 10 minutes Watford didn't let us do that. Sometimes the game just pans out that way. When you're constantly clearing your lines and trying to take the ball down 80 yards from goal and do something don't expect much.

I don't even think we got bossed physically. We scrapped away and it was a very even game. Last year when we lost 2-1 and they battered us the whole second half and scored two set piece goals was getting manhandled. Today by comparison I thought we held our own by and large.

Tanganga was out of position, but if he couldn't live physically with Sarr who could in our side?

Seems like a lot of our fans (not you) are just angry regardless of the game/performance and wind-milling at their favourite punchbags. I've already seen the stuff like Aurier was total crap, Winks did nothing, Eriksen wasn't trying, as a whole we weren't bothered, sack the manager and the board etc etc etc and just shaking my head.

 

[stonebrow]

Good, Levy has demonstrated that he's totally and completely reactive in the transfer market. No hope whatsoever of him proactively solving the problems that are staring us in the face, so Jose applying pressure on him publicly is about the only thing we can hope will spur him to action.

Quite worrying if Jose needs to put pressure on Levy at this early stage at Spurs!

 

[Vwbottom]

Clean sheet woop woop!

 

[GutBucket]

Poch did very well coaching our squad. But he was far from perfect. His transfer activity is proving to have been extremely questionable, under his methods and staff multiple players have deteriorated massively through injury, he was contributing to a feeling of malaise with some very negative media appearances (even openly considering resignation), and several key players had grown unhappy with his management. Perhaps most importantly, his tactics consistently failed to win us the very biggest of games in the final stages of cups or title challenges. That's not to say he isn't a good manager, or won't also do very well else where. But I think the days of managers staying and succeeding for multiple generations of squads are over, and he certainly had not demonstrated that he was the man to oversee such an overhaul. I'm not sure whether Mourinho will prove to be the right man for the job or not, but I don't think we had much choice but to change. Poch was the manager who took us from being West Ham, to the verge of greatness, and right back down to being West Ham 2.0 again - that latter part cannot simply be ignored with nostalgia goggles.

Only if they don't get support to improve the squad, then team gets stale and certain players have to play too many games, they get knackered and team keeps getting worse. Plus there is less competition, less worry of being replaced so worse trainings and improvements etc. He certainly has demosntrated that he was the man to oversee such overhaul, Wanyama, Son, Toby were all key signings in what reshaped this club, that's why every club that needs a manager will fight for him this summer. It's not him who didn't want to sign anyone, in fact he was literally the first one to warn everyone that we need to make signings or risk becoming West Ham, he did it multiple times.

 

[CowInAComa]

How far we have fallen.

Out of this current side, only Toby, Jan, Aurier and Son are good enough.

You said Aurier lol

 

[Saoirse]

We understandably didn't have much to spend while the stadium was built, and do appear to have a lot more now it is going by the summer window and activity in this one already. But when you look at Poch's transfers, very few were successful. Do you blame Levy for not investing in the squad at the same time as the stadium, or the rest of the staff for the poor way in which the money we did have was spent? I certainly think we could have done better than what we did get which was literally a whole squads worth of players with only three really being considered good enough now:

N'Jie
Stambouli
Janssen
Fazio
N'Koudou
Clarke
Ndombele
Sessegnon
Lo Celso
Yedlin
Aurier
Lopez
Vorm
Gazzaniga
Wimmer
Foyth
Llorente
Wanyama
Sissoko
Sanchez
Lucas
Davies
Trippier
Dier
Alderweireld
Dele
Son

 

[SugarRay]

Joe Cole is an illiterate fuckwit who genuinely hates us. How he is making a living talking about anything is beyond me.

This is the man, when talking about Fabio Capello's England reign, said "me and the boys were wondering what's going on here. I mean, he don't speak no English."

A cretin.

Joe Cole is a ****, absolute ****.

 

[WiganSpur]

Yeah I don't really get the criticism overall. We picked a technical side to get the ball on the deck and play football and control the game in their half. There are two teams involved though and bar the first 10 minutes Watford didn't let us do that. Sometimes the game just pans out that way. When you're constantly clearing your lines and trying to take the ball down 80 yards from goal and do something don't expect much.

I don't even think we got bossed physically. We scrapped away and it was a very even game.

Tanganga was out of position, but if he couldn't live physically with Sarr who could in our side?

Seems like a lot of our fans (not you) are just angry regardless of the game/performance and wind-milling at their favourite punchbags. I've already seen the stuff like Aurier was total crap, Winks did nothing, Eriksen wasn't trying, as a whole we weren't bothered, sack the manager and the board etc etc etc and just shaking my head.

Find myself agreeing with this for sure. As for Tanganga i'd have maybe gone for Sessegnon who's actually shown himself to be fairly competent defensively at LB so far. Crucial thing is he's left footed and I always feel it's easier for a natural LB to defend a natural RW. Surely Jose would have known about Sarr before the match.

 

[Matthew]

You watch that performance and realise we are only looking for loans in January? Can this season just fuck off already! And what the hell is up with sonny? Can’t remember his last good game.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

Joe Cole is an illiterate fuckwit who genuinely hates us. How he is making a living talking about anything is beyond me.

This is the man, when talking about Fabio Capello's England reign, said "me and the boys were wondering what's going on here. I mean, he don't speak no English."

A cretin.

Pretty much. The intellectual capacity of Dennis Wise ie fuck all.

 

[PaulM]

Yeah I don't really get the criticism overall. We picked a technical side to get the ball on the deck and play football and control the game in their half. There are two teams involved though and bar the first 10 minutes Watford didn't let us do that. Sometimes the game just pans out that way. When you're constantly clearing your lines and trying to take the ball down 80 yards from goal and do something don't expect much.

I don't even think we got bossed physically. We scrapped away and it was a very even game.

Tanganga was out of position, but if he couldn't live physically with Sarr who could in our side?

Seems like a lot of our fans (not you) are just angry regardless of the game/performance and wind-milling at their favourite punchbags. I've already seen the stuff like Aurier was total crap, Winks did nothing, Eriksen wasn't trying, as a whole we weren't bothered, sack the manager and the board etc etc etc and just shaking my head.

Funnily enough, I can't stand Aurier and thought he was arguably our best player today. Eriksen actually won a challenge or two and Alli did okay (some good things, some bad). Alli actually tried hard all game from what I saw.

I'm reasonably happy with today. We're close to rock bottom - this is the start of the rebuild. We'll beat Norwich to nil in midweek and we will go on a decent run. Only think is, I thing we'll have left it too late for top 4.

 

[JimmyG2]

Bloody Christian Eriksen
more farewell performances than
Frank Sinatra.

 

[TURKISH69]

Oh grand old Jose Mourhino he had 11 men, he marched them up to the top four and he marched them back again.

He’s been left behind in football, I really wanted him to do well. Levy will not back him as all the other managers that have been sacked due to the complete incompetence of Levy who has caused all the issues at our club and completely fucked it right up, well done Daniel you bald little man. Jose will get sacked next due to him not being backed. Please sell us please just fuck off, you insult me wearing that Tottenham badge on your jacket because it only represents pound coin signs to you and Lewis. Pair of fuck wits

 

[rupsmith]

We understandably didn't have much to spend while the stadium was built, and do appear to have a lot more now it is going by the summer window and activity in this one already. But when you look at Poch's transfers, very few were successful. Do you blame Levy for not investing in the squad at the same time as the stadium, or the rest of the staff for the poor way in which the money we did have was spent? I certainly think we could have done better than what we did get which was literally a whole squads worth of players with only three really being considered good enough now:

N'Jie
Stambouli
Janssen
Fazio
N'Koudou
Clarke
Ndombele
Sessegnon
Lo Celso
Yedlin
Aurier
Lopez
Vorm
Gazzaniga
Wimmer
Foyth
Llorente
Wanyama
Sissoko
Sanchez
Lucas
Davies
Trippier
Dier
Alderweireld
Dele
Son

I could not agree more. And I can understand - and agree with - Daniel Levy essentially deciding to commit funds to a manager who is a proven winner.

 

[SugarRay]

Quite worrying if Jose needs to put pressure on Levy at this early stage at Spurs!

I’ll be amazed if Jose is at the club in 18 months.

It feels likes it’s falling apart already?. Everyone was talking about how all his clubs are fucked after three years...we’ve managed to create that feeling after three months!

 

[Matthew]

Bloody Christian Eriksen
more farewell performances than
Frank Sinatra.

i actually think he done okay when he came on, at least he was making forward moves!

 

[rupsmith]

He’s been left behind in football, I really wanted him to do well. Levy will not back him as all the other managers that have been sacked due to the complete incompetence of Levy who has caused all the issues at our club and completely fucked it right up, well done Daniel you bald little man. Jose will get sacked next due to him not being backed. Please sell us please just fuck off, you insult wearing that Tottenham badge on your jacket because it only represents pound coin signs to you and Lewis. Pair of fuck wits

Is this kind of thing allowed? Totally understand the need to vent but mate type something even remotely productive