What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[ardiles]

After reading through about 5 pages of the Dele Alli thread on RedCafe, I found out that this was the general gist of it...

M.U. Fan: Pogba is better than Alli

Spurs Fans: But Alli has scored and assisted much more than Pogba this season.

M.U. Fan: Yeah but Pogba has a higher ceiling, he's only 23 and is already world class.

Spurs Fans: But Alli is 20 and has 16 goals and 6 assists already this season...

M.U. Fan: Yeah but Alli plays for Spurs. Shit team without a Man Utd like pedigree so there's less pressure on him than Man Utd

Spurs fans: But there'd be more pressure on a team challenging for the title...

M.U. Fan: But Tottenham's a shit team that haven't won any trophies. Look at Pogba's career, so much more successful than Alli

Spurs fans: But Alli is younger and plays for a "shit club", not Juventus who win the league every year so what do you expect.

M.U. Fan: He has to come to a first tier club like the glorious Manchester United and feel the pressure before he can be truely world class.

Spurs fans: But Pogba went to the "pedigree 1st tier Utd" and has been quite poor so how is he world class then?

M.U. Fan: But Dele Alli and Pogba play different positions. Dele Alli is actually a second striker and Pogba is defensive midfielder. ( This reply is my favourite )

Spurs fans: So why are you comparing them in the first place?

M.U. Fan: ... Dele Alli's a diving cnut. Pogba's better.

Rinse and repeat with a couple of "You Spurs fans are so deluded" and "Dele Alli will be off to Real Madrid in a year" thrown in and that's the Dele Alli thread on RedCafe for you.

Edit: Also there's the Alli/Martial or Alli/Lingard comparisons which are the same... just worse... much much worse...

If Alli is off to Madrid and not Pogba, how is Alli crap? The united fan seems to have run out of excuses for Pogba.

 

[sly1]

I never get why people say this. So you felt like there was a real disconnect between you and the club because we weren't as good under the previous managers as we are under Poch? Did you support spurs any less?

In fairness, he was probably referring to the years immediately after Redknapp left. We lost lots of our best players (Modric, Van Der Vaart, King) and began playing the most insipid football since Santini. There was such a sense that after years of mediocrity we had finally been on the brink of doing something good, but that it was over, the chance was gone.

It wasn't only that we had worse players than before, but that even players that had been good (Assou-Ekotto) became bad, and players that were clearly talented (Dembele) looked lost. It was as though no one even knew what they were doing there, like migrant workers away from their families, trying to earn a living in some soulless emirate.

With the enormous turnover of players after the Bale transfer, it felt as though everything that we had been building towards (starting from the appointment of Frank Arnesen as Director of Football, or at least so it appeared to me) had vanished instantly. The club became a sort of cash cow for ok-ish footballers to do a stint at in order to earn a bit of money, line a few agents pockets. No one seemed to want to be there, or care very much what happened.

We would scrape a few 1-0 wins over poor teams - usually with nothing between us except a Gareth Bale wonder goal to paper over the mould - then get thumped 5-0 by a decent team. And those 1-0 wins were so exhausting, but so unsatisfying. They felt like spending months chasing the same girl and finally getting her, but knowing deep down that her heart's not in it. Paulinho has scrambled in a last minute winner, great! I'm happy and I'm celebrating, but I'm also thinking that I wouldn't have watched the match at all if I had known it would be like this.

 

[SpursDave88]

It's not really to do with us being less good, for most my time supporting Spurs (circa 25 years) we have been pretty hopeless! The period i was referring to was probably towards the end of AVBs reign, certainly the Sherwood days, where the club just felt rudderless. The players didn't seem to care and the atmosphere at the lane was pretty poisonous. Did i support the club any less? No, probably not, Did i care less? Yes, probably. Were Spurs on my mind 24/7 like they are now? No. I think if you trawl back through the various threads from that time there would be a lot of people feeling the same.

I felt the same, stopped coming in the Sherwood days, despite having a season ticket and considered not renewing after 17 years or so...I think the thing that drives support is hope, obviously what you hope for various by the level your club is at, but at the time, having had a good few years under Redknapp, Bale had left and what remained seemed pretty dross and didn't care. I couldn't get excited about turning up to watch Paulinho, Capoue and Soldado try and grind our way to sixth place by passing sideways till the opposition died of boredom.

 

[Gbspurs]

I don't really get why people care if rival fans rate our players. Works for me if everyone in the world thinks Kane and Alli are hogswash and no one ever wants to buy them.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

As a neutral, I say fair play to them. They haven't bought improvement with ridiculous spending like Chelsea, Man City and Now Man Utd are trying to do. They aren't self-entitled ****s like Liverpool have been since the 80s. They play fantastic football and do it with a lot of home grown talent. The manager even lets players like Andros Townsend and Tom Carroll go an play football and better themselves by making it clear they aren't going to make it at Spurs, rather than dragging it out like Wenger tends to do. Looking at Wilfred Zaha at present, it seems he needed that type of kick up the arse from Man Utd. Not bad for a club who were an absolute embarrassment for so long with their succession of managers and lack of quality. I guess those signings of Bale and Modric gave this some important foundation and now that Arsenal are going to need to build themselves up again, they'll want to start buying quality players like them who have the potential to go up a level or three.

Arsenal post Palace

 

[buttons]

I felt the same, stopped coming in the Sherwood days, despite having a season ticket and considered not renewing after 17 years or so...I think the thing that drives support is hope, obviously what you hope for various by the level your club is at, but at the time, having had a good few years under Redknapp, Bale had left and what remained seemed pretty dross and didn't care. I couldn't get excited about turning up to watch Paulinho, Capoue and Soldado try and grind our way to sixth place by passing sideways till the opposition died of boredom.

Hope. Bloody hope. It'll kill you but keep you coming back for more!

 

[diamond lights]

Was in Liverpool yesterday for work and spoke to a couple of taxi drivers taking me from and to the Airport. Both were Everton fans. I have commented on here before how much I dislike all things LFC.
These lads were really knowledgeable on their football. They both understood Everton's place in things at the minute and really like what's going on at Spurs. It was really good to talk football with well informed fans. Maybe the fact that we had a mutual dislike of Liverpool and Klopp had something to do with it but they were really balanced and knew what Poch has done at our place (not just headline stuff either).
One of them was in the bar that Barkley got punched in and said he was chatting up the wrong girl.

 

[mightyspur]

Was in Liverpool yesterday for work and spoke to a couple of taxi drivers taking me from and to the Airport. Both were Everton fans. I have commented on here before how much I dislike all things LFC.
These lads were really knowledgeable on their football. They both understood Everton's place in things at the minute and really like what's going on at Spurs. It was really good to talk football with well informed fans. Maybe the fact that we had a mutual dislike of Liverpool and Klopp had something to do with it but they were really balanced and knew what Poch has done at our place (not just headline stuff either).
One of them was in the bar that Barkley got punched in and said he was chatting up the wrong girl.

Did they start booing at you lots for no apparent reason?

 

[diamond lights]

Did they start booing at you lots for no apparent reason?

Now that you say that, they maybe did - I thought it was just their accent and I didn't understand.

 

[Insomnia]

Now that you say that, they maybe did - I thought it was just their accent and I didn't understand.

booo- urns like like la

 

[Shadydan]

Arsehole Mania:

WE need to wake up guys arguable the best young striker and attacking midfielder in the world. Best back line in the league and possibly Europe. Youthful forward thinking manager, and done it all on the smallest budget of the top 6. All this "they are just **** Spurs" doesn't wash this season. It's a childish sour grapes attitude.

Next season we either face a season or 2 of transition with a new manager or sticking with Wenger and Losing Özil and Ssnchez!!

To be honest it won't take much effort for them to be a bigger club than us once their stadium is built. Their board are much more proactive and ambitious. Basically us before our stadium build in terms of ambition.

We've got the cvnt Keswick and co who just don't give a ****.

Mate, relax. Arsenal are a tier above Spurs as a football club and will be for some time. Spurs are having their most successful 10 year spell in perhaps 50-75 years. And guess what they have to show for it? One league cup. They have a great manager and an ambitious board but that doesn't create a history. We'll regroup after this season and go again. It's what top clubs do.

 

[shelfmonkey]

Arsehole Mania:

The last one, what an utterly arrogant prick, definitely not the exception in regard to those ****s!!!

 

[tommyt]

Nothing would please me more than to totally steamroll Arsenal at White Hart Lane.

 

[diamond lights]

Nothing would please me more than to totally steamroll Arsenal at White Hart Lane.

..and then do the same again in the Cup Final.

 

[tommyt]

..and then do the same again in the Cup Final.

That would do nicely, yes.

 

[TottenhamLegend]

Nothing would please me more than to totally steamroll Arsenal at White Hart Lane.

Imagine the atmosphere if we come out and do what we did to Stoke and were 4-0 up before half time

 

[Lilbaz]

The last one, what an utterly arrogant prick, definitely not the exception in regard to those ****s!!!

They are a tier above us at the moment. Inthe last 3 years they have won 2 fa cups and finished 2nd in the league yet still want to sack their manager.

Don't take this as knocking the team. Think we have a great team and are playing lovely football. But we are not considered a big football club yet.
We need trophies and regularly.

 

[Marty]

Imagine the atmosphere if we come out and do what we did to Stoke and were 4-0 up before half time

 

[matthew.absurdum]

One of them was in the bar that Barkley got punched in and said he was chatting up the wrong girl.

bar itk！

 

[matthew.absurdum]

The last one, what an utterly arrogant prick, definitely not the exception in regard to those ****s!!!

The last one is very interesting. Man utd was arguably the best club in the country last 20 years. and liverpool also in the 80's. But both of them still struggling now to some extent. The view that top clubs never falls only applicable to the like of Barca or Real.