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SandroClegane

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From an wolves fan

"He was sacked because of regression both stylistic and performance wise. It was unforgivable that we fell below Villa and Newcastle.

He had lost the players, and was apparently ignoring the recruitment team's suggestions in favour of Mendes clients.

We paid off his contract and that of his backroom staff.

In terms of him being unhappy in England, that rumour started after we lost to west Brom where he just sat there like a lemon all sad looking on the bench as big Sam barked orders to his players. Some idiots tried to crowdfund a banner for him.

Wolves always say managers leave by mutual consent.
Lambert left by mutual consent.
Zenga, mutual consent.
Nuno, mutual consent.

He was sacked.

For spurs? Underwhelming.

If he went to Palace, Burnley, Newcastle, maybe Everton, I'd say it would be great for them.

But Spurs, it's not a match, at all.

Last game of the season.
A point pretty much guarantees Europa League.
Frank Lampards Chelsea need to win to get top 4.

Rather than set us up for the counter, knowing Chelsea will come at us, he set us up for the 0-0.
We conceded two quickfire goals before the break.
He sat there stroking his beard and doing nothing for the rest of the match.

We had 1 shot on target in the entire game. Against Frank Lampards Chelsea (yeah the one where you looked at their defence and it collapsed)


Yeah, fits into the DNA crap being thrown around. Wishing him all the best. Am taking time off the club. Till then, take care guys
Well the reactions on the Wolves' forum were noticeably different than your buddy's. I'm sure everyone will have their point of view but we'll have to see what happens.
 

SUIYHA

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Depends what happens with their squad this summer I think, and as long as he has had a chance to 'reset' a bit as he looked tired and dejected a lot of the time last season.
They have the basis of a pretty good squad, and he is a good coach, we know that.


He is, but if I was a Spurs fan I'd be very underwhelmed by this appointment, especially after all the Levy talk of wanting 'free-flowing, attacking football'.
He's gonna start with the fans massively unconvinced from the start. To them, he got the boot from a lesser club for not delivering, and is essentially Mourinho without the pedigree and being a trophy winner.
I know we love him for what he did for 3/4 of his tenure here (and for the kind of man he is), but these entitled clubs like Spurs are a different proposition.
For me, I feel he's like the managerial version of Coady and Doc at the top level; good for a short time under a very specific set of conditions, and I don't think he'll get them at Tottenham


I think he's a brilliant manager and that sometimes, even for the best of them, things go a bit stale sometimes. Especially when there are mitigating circumstances like there were here.
I think he'll thrive at Spurs and in 2-3 years will rightfully be seen as one of the best in Europe.


When I think about that 3-2 game against Spurs at WHL and how the narrative has changed since then I honestly feel like I'm living in some dystopian footballing hellscape.
4000 Wolves fans, still hanging from the party in Barcelona, belting out 'Nuno's the special one' into an emptying WHL. Now they've got him, we've got Bruno Lage and we're not that bothered about it?
I fucking hate it.


Things don't just stay the same though do they?
That 3-2 game feels like an absolute lifetime ago, we haven't got near those performance levels in a very long time




If Spurs had replaced Pochettino with Nuno instead of Mourinho though, there wouldn't have been this reaction from their fans. And we'd have been devastated!
Agree on what Levy said, even Nuno at his best with us wasn't really that (even if I still enjoyed watching us, we were a tactically very good team), so it's not going to go down well in that sense considering the season we just had.
I think he will surprise people though even if it shouldn't really be a surprise just because people can't look past the last season.




I'm not sure even prime Nuno/Wolves performances would go down to well at Spurs tbh; they want to control games with the ball, and that's not something he's ever done (not counting the Championship obviously, as the resource available was ridiculous compared to the rest). I just don't see it as a good fit stylistically, particularly given they've just got rid of Jose and wanted a change of direction.
That said, Mendes has played an absolute blinder for his mate (and his bank balance, no doubt) if he gets Nuno in at Spurs



Going over old ground here, as I said it when he was first linked to Spurs - but Nuno will be fine there if their fans give him a chance.
He'll get them organised at the back and he has better options in attack then he ever had here - plus they'll back him in the window. He'll have them competing in the bigger games and they won't get beaten cheaply as often against the lesser sides in the division.
I'm gutted he's going there and I'm gutted we're playing them so early because you just know what the reaction will be if "Nuno's Spurs do over Bruno's Wolves". Not looking forward to that one bit.


I would expect Neves to follow him now.

I'd say Neves is a very strong possibility, Coady an outside chance




He will probably use Dier in the Coady role.
Traore maybe but I don't think he will raid us beyond 2 players. He will want players from the pages in Mendes' book we don't seem to be able to view



I'm genuinely not posting this for bites just expressing my opinion. I don't think Nuno is going to be a success at Tottenham, his football is simply too pragmatic. Levy has done him no favours in managing the fans expectations talking about getting back the attacking DNA in his statement on his apptointment.
I really believe that if Nuno had a name like Andrew Smith and was a dour Englishman, there's no way he'd be anywhere near the Tottenham job. He really is, IMHO, a Portuguese Sam Allardyce. But Nuno Espirito Santo sounds alot more exotic.
As for how he fares at Tottenham, to be honest I hope they are absolutely shit under him and it all ends in tears. Breaking up with the love of your (football) life and six weeks later they are happily with someone else and it's all great, fuck that I want them to suffer!
 

C0YS

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From an wolves fan

"He was sacked because of regression both stylistic and performance wise. It was unforgivable that we fell below Villa and Newcastle.

He had lost the players, and was apparently ignoring the recruitment team's suggestions in favour of Mendes clients.

We paid off his contract and that of his backroom staff.

In terms of him being unhappy in England, that rumour started after we lost to west Brom where he just sat there like a lemon all sad looking on the bench as big Sam barked orders to his players. Some idiots tried to crowdfund a banner for him.

Wolves always say managers leave by mutual consent.
Lambert left by mutual consent.
Zenga, mutual consent.
Nuno, mutual consent.

He was sacked.

For spurs? Underwhelming.

If he went to Palace, Burnley, Newcastle, maybe Everton, I'd say it would be great for them.

But Spurs, it's not a match, at all.

Last game of the season.
A point pretty much guarantees Europa League.
Frank Lampards Chelsea need to win to get top 4.

Rather than set us up for the counter, knowing Chelsea will come at us, he set us up for the 0-0.
We conceded two quickfire goals before the break.
He sat there stroking his beard and doing nothing for the rest of the match.

We had 1 shot on target in the entire game. Against Frank Lampards Chelsea (yeah the one where you looked at their defence and it collapsed)


Yeah, fits into the DNA crap being thrown around. Wishing him all the best. Am taking time off the club. Till then, take care guys

The bit I bolded is clearly bollocks. Who is in charge of Wolves now? A Mendes Client. Who owns Wolves? Fosun.

What do Fosun do? Invest in companies. Including a 15% ownership in GestiFut, which is Mendes. And that is why Wolves are run by Mendes, and that's why they go for those clients, nothing to do with Nuno.

The rest is meh in my view, partly because, well I predicted Wolves to fall out of the top 10 and didn't have much to do with the coaching. On criticising the strategy of one game, seems bizarre as frankly you'd expect Chelsea to beat Wolves. Stylistically they might have a point but Chelsea were in good form, and judging a manager so negatively out of one very difficult game is frankly absurd.

Also on a side note, the shots on target stat really irritates me as people always say only one shot on target blablbla, one shot on target isn't good, don't get me wrong. But, it's not uncommon, when you consider that an average of about every 2.5 shots on target results in a goal, it's a really misleading stat as people tend to assume there are more shots on target in a game than is actually the case.

Now, how involved we become with Mendes is not that clear, it depends on Paratici, will Nuno make us more likely to follow Mendes clients? Well, no more than Mourinho, who has always bought in loads of Mendes clients at every club he's managed. We will see.
 

andy00900

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He controls the signings and focuses on what makes him the most money not what suits the team. Look at the massive point drops Monaco and Valencia have had after great seasons. Also the Mendes players we have signed/loaned under Jose; Vinicious, Gedson and Doherty.

Hopefully the ITK info about transfers having to also be aproved by Hitchin will be the case otherwise I expect a wild ride.
 

brendanb50

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For me and i'm guessing like a lot here, he's a bit of an unusual appointment and will take some time to win people over, which I hope he manages to.

I don't necessarily feel he'll be especially negative in terms of tactics, his Wolves side of a couple of years ago were good to watch, utilised players in systems which got the best from them and they were aggressive on and off the ball. Appreciate they regressed a bit this past year or so but that can happen when squads go a bit stale or a manager has been somewhere for a while.

He improved players and organised his team defensively, both things I think we're in sore need of at present, so whilst I'm not overjoyed (perhaps this whole saga takes the polish off it to be fair) I'm not negative on him either. Plus he carries himself well and is well-liked which after Mourinho is needed.

Bigger question for me is how the Mendes connection works now and whether it's a short/medium/long term benefit or not?
 

HildoSpur

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Oct 1, 2005
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From an wolves fan

"He was sacked because of regression both stylistic and performance wise. It was unforgivable that we fell below Villa and Newcastle.

He had lost the players, and was apparently ignoring the recruitment team's suggestions in favour of Mendes clients.

We paid off his contract and that of his backroom staff.

In terms of him being unhappy in England, that rumour started after we lost to west Brom where he just sat there like a lemon all sad looking on the bench as big Sam barked orders to his players. Some idiots tried to crowdfund a banner for him.

Wolves always say managers leave by mutual consent.
Lambert left by mutual consent.
Zenga, mutual consent.
Nuno, mutual consent.

He was sacked.

For spurs? Underwhelming.

If he went to Palace, Burnley, Newcastle, maybe Everton, I'd say it would be great for them.

But Spurs, it's not a match, at all.

Last game of the season.
A point pretty much guarantees Europa League.
Frank Lampards Chelsea need to win to get top 4.

Rather than set us up for the counter, knowing Chelsea will come at us, he set us up for the 0-0.
We conceded two quickfire goals before the break.
He sat there stroking his beard and doing nothing for the rest of the match.

We had 1 shot on target in the entire game. Against Frank Lampards Chelsea (yeah the one where you looked at their defence and it collapsed)


Yeah, fits into the DNA crap being thrown around. Wishing him all the best. Am taking time off the club. Till then, take care guys

You appear to have deliberately picked the worst post you could find - from what I can tell most Wolves fans really like and respect Nuno.
 

Donki

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It will but FP has only signed 3 Mendes players ever. So we should wait and see what happens this summer before saying we are a Mendes club because so far it doesn't look that way

We as a club are in a totally different position to Juve, we tried for Gattuso as well. Levy would love having it in with Mendes.
 

Danny1

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Dec 6, 2006
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From an wolves fan

"He was sacked because of regression both stylistic and performance wise. It was unforgivable that we fell below Villa and Newcastle.

He had lost the players, and was apparently ignoring the recruitment team's suggestions in favour of Mendes clients.

We paid off his contract and that of his backroom staff.

In terms of him being unhappy in England, that rumour started after we lost to west Brom where he just sat there like a lemon all sad looking on the bench as big Sam barked orders to his players. Some idiots tried to crowdfund a banner for him.

Wolves always say managers leave by mutual consent.
Lambert left by mutual consent.
Zenga, mutual consent.
Nuno, mutual consent.

He was sacked.

For spurs? Underwhelming.

If he went to Palace, Burnley, Newcastle, maybe Everton, I'd say it would be great for them.

But Spurs, it's not a match, at all.

Last game of the season.
A point pretty much guarantees Europa League.
Frank Lampards Chelsea need to win to get top 4.

Rather than set us up for the counter, knowing Chelsea will come at us, he set us up for the 0-0.
We conceded two quickfire goals before the break.
He sat there stroking his beard and doing nothing for the rest of the match.

We had 1 shot on target in the entire game. Against Frank Lampards Chelsea (yeah the one where you looked at their defence and it collapsed)


Yeah, fits into the DNA crap being thrown around. Wishing him all the best. Am taking time off the club. Till then, take care guys

That could almost be an exact word by word play of what happened to Poch. The last few games of his tenure were dreadful with these results:

- Lost 7-2 to Bayern
- Lost 3-0 to Brighton
- Drew 1-1 with Watford
- Lost 2-1 to Liverpool
- Drew 1-1 with Everton
- Drew 1-1 with Sheff Utd

Throughout all these games Poch looked lost, and it was clear his time was up.

Unfortunately this happens with managers all the time. The end comes & the manager knows this & the motivation goes. Don't let the last couple of games of a 4 year stint stain what potentially could be a good appointment.
 

RickyVilla

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May 16, 2004
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I'm genuinely not posting this for bites just expressing my opinion. I don't think Nuno is going to be a success at Tottenham, his football is simply too pragmatic. Levy has done him no favours in managing the fans expectations talking about getting back the attacking DNA in his statement on his apptointment.
I really believe that if Nuno had a name like Andrew Smith and was a dour Englishman, there's no way he'd be anywhere near the Tottenham job. He really is, IMHO, a Portuguese Sam Allardyce. But Nuno Espirito Santo sounds alot more exotic.
As for how he fares at Tottenham, to be honest I hope they are absolutely shit under him and it all ends in tears. Breaking up with the love of your (football) life and six weeks later they are happily with someone else and it's all great, fuck that I want them to suffer!
Bless his little cotton socks. :LOL:
 

Metalhead

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The only response you'll ever need to a West Ham fan:

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