Wilson's Ban?

[haxman]

After the deadline of the 31st, everything is restarted. So at 10 yellows he will get a one game ban.

So why then does Alex Song have a two match ban for reaching 10 yellow cards? It says he's banned till March 14th, which is two game weeks away.

Edit : Never mind, it looks like Song had reached 5 yellows before 31st December and served a one match ban for that.

 

[Son_Of]

I think we can smash Blackburn at home Wilson or no Wilson, so I'm quite happy for him to kick Danny Murphy in the 89th.

mais porquoi?

 

[StartingPrice]

Interestingly Wilson not only managed to avoid picking up a yellow against Everton, but didn't even commit any fouls.

Everton had an unfair monopoly on thuggish fouls in that gamemg:

 

[DC_Boy]

well done big turnip for digging out the rules

if wilson didn't have 5 before dec 31 surely then he gets no ban?

the bans only seem to apply rather strangely to people who got a ban in the firstpasrt of the season

may well be wrong

anyway have some rep BT

song presumably collected 5 before dec 31

EDIT - apparently have repped you too much - ah well thanks anyway BT

 

[nicdic]

If you didn't collect 5 before December 31, then 10 yellows results in a one game ban.

 

[DC_Boy]

where does it say that in the rules quoted by BT? I'm not doubting the truth of the statement - just can't see it in the rules quoted

 

[nicdic]

Because Wilson didn't receive disciplinary action after receiving five yellow cards, because it was past the cut off date.

 

[JollyHappy]

(iv) If a Player accumulates ten cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the second Sunday of April in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering:- Two First Team matches



Surely that means a 2 game ban then - very clear!

 

[nicdic]

(iv) If a Player accumulates ten cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the second Sunday of April in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering:- Two First Team matches



Surely that means a 2 game ban then - very clear!

No, because they are leading on from having a one match ban for five yellow cards.

 

[michaelden]

Where's Stoof our residence legal eagle?

:think: - Nic, you're a legal fledgling aren't ya?

 

[DC_Boy]

still can't see where it says ten cautions gets a one match ban if you haven't had 5 before Dec 31

 

[chrissivad]

Previously, players collecting five yellow cards prior to the final day in February were subject to a one-match suspension. This will now only apply if a player reaches five yellow cards before 31 December. Sanctions for players accumulating 10 and 15 cautions remain in place as do their respective amnesty periods.

Furthermore, if a player does accumulate the permitted number of cautions prior to a cut-off date then the suspension will now be automatic as opposed to the current seven day rule.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandR...ardUpdate.aspx

 

[Pedro]

Everything seems to point to a 2 game ban. I agree that pompy and sunderland would be good ones to miss

 

[DC_Boy]

it's still all as clear as mud to me - I believe the people who are saying that wilson's ten cards will get him a one match suspension, but I still don't see where it's clearly written down

it seems you have to make inferences from other statements.

thanks for all the info and FA stuff anyway guys - as I say I'm sure the 'one match suspension' view is correct

 

[Stoof]

Previously, players collecting five yellow cards prior to the final day in February were subject to a one-match suspension. This will now only apply if a player reaches five yellow cards before 31 December. Sanctions for players accumulating 10 and 15 cautions remain in place as do their respective amnesty periods.

Furthermore, if a player does accumulate the permitted number of cautions prior to a cut-off date then the suspension will now be automatic as opposed to the current seven day rule.

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandR...ardUpdate.aspx

The bit that Chris quoted suggests it's irrelevant what went on before. "Sanctions for players accumulating 10 ... cautions remain in place".

Done deal. Two games.

 

[DC_Boy]

so ever more confusing - this is absolutely ridiculous and extremely poor on the FA's part

they need to set things out quite unequivocally

on this thread alone we've had 0 1 and 2 games put forward as the answer

I'll guarantee if I ran the situation on another forum and asked how many games Wilson will miss, if at al,l on receipt of his next caution given that he only had four cautions before Dec 31 there would be similar confusion

especially if i put in the info that BT kindly supplied from the FA, which completely confuses the issue as far as I can see

 

[Star_of_Davids]

10 bookings before 2nd Sunday in April = 2 match ban. Harry has also mentioned in interviews that wilso is one booking a way from a 2 game ban. I really can't see where the confusion lies. If you want to be confused by wording try reading some tax legislation!

 

[chrissivad]

not confusing at all

8. PUNISHMENTS – Relating to First Team Competitive Matches
(a) CAUTIONS ADMINISTERED ON THE FIELD OF PLAY
(i) If a Player accumulates five cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the
Playing Season and 31 December (including any FTCM played on that day) in the
same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: -
One First Team Match
(ii) If a Player accumulates five cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the
Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be: -
“Warned as to his Future Conduct”
(iii) A Player who has already been subject to disciplinary action as a result of receiving
five cautions and then proceeds to receive a further five cautions during the same
Season, will be subject to the following punishments: -
(iv) If a Player accumulates ten cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the
Playing Season and the second Sunday of April in the same Season, he will
be suspended automatically for a period covering:-
Two First Team matches
(v) If a Player accumulates ten cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the
Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be: -
“Severely Censured and Warned as to his future Conduct”
(vi) If a Player accumulates 15 cautions in FTCM between the opening date of the
Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be suspended
automatically for a period covering: -
Three First Team matches
(vii) A Player who has already been subject to disciplinary action as a result of
receiving five, ten and 15 cautions, and who goes on to receive 20 cautions in
FTCM in the same Season, shall be required to attend a meeting of a Regulatory
Commission, within seven days of the date of the last caution. The Members of
a Regulatory Commission will have the power to deal with the Player in such
manner as they deem fit. The same procedure will apply for every further five
cautions received by that Player.
(viii) Any period of suspension arising from cautions will commence forthwith. The
suspension will cover all approved First Team matches until such time as his
Club’s First Team has completed the number of matches appropriate to the
punishment in approved Competitions during the period covered by its opening
league match and ending with the fi nal match in which the Club is playing in an
approved domestic Competition.
(ix) Any period of suspension or part thereof which remains outstanding at the end
of a Season must be served at the commencement of the next following Season.

In short

5 Yellow cards between the start of the season and the 31st Dec= 1 game ban
10 Yellow cards between the start of the season and the second week in April= 2 game ban
15 yellow cards between the start of the season and the end of the season= 3 game ban

 

[talkshowhost86]

What happens beyound 15 yellow cards? I reckon they may need to rewrite the rules for Wilson.

 

[chrissivad]

Might need to for Cana as well.

I think it just goes to 20 yellows= 4 game ban and so on, but not 100% sure on it