Jermain Jenas

THOWIG · Jan 11, 2009

I think we've been saying the same things about Jenas for years now. "It's time for him to step up", "This is his season", "This will improve his game" etc....
I understand that people like Jenas and know plenty more that can't stand him, as long as he's a Spurs player I will try my best to support him, but can we improve on him? Yes! Would any of the top 4 want him? No! Any big teams in Europe? I doubt it.
Anyway could go on and on, but we can't change anything only Redknapp can. So hopefully he can sort him out.

ginol@14 · Jan 11, 2009

ok jenas lovers i want you to defend why jenas has just cost us the game and kept us in the bottom 3 with his fantastic marking from the corner in injury time ?
watch the replay .... he not only loses the man he should be marking from the corner , he actually pushes him into the direction of the ball giving him a free header for them to win the game................. just another reason why he i and most spurs fans at the lane thinks he is shite ! ........... gareth gates looking twat !

teddy_sheringham_125 · Jan 11, 2009

ginol@14 said:
ok jenas lovers i want you to defend why jenas has just cost us the game and kept us in the bottom 3 with his fantastic marking from the corner in injury time ?
watch the replay .... he not only loses the man he should be marking from the corner , he actually pushes him into the direction of the ball giving him a free header for them to win the game................. just another reason why he i and most spurs fans at the lane thinks he is shite ! ........... gareth gates looking twat !

This is completely the wrong place for this, but why you feel the need to blame one player for that performance I will never know. If you play that badly, trying to soak up pressure for pretty much the whole game whilst having to defend against corner after corner and free kick after free kick, eventually somebody is going to lose their man and you will concede a goal.

Alfieconnman · Jan 11, 2009

teddy_sheringham_125 said:
This is completely the wrong place for this, but why you feel the need to blame one player for that performance I will never know. If you play that badly, trying to soak up pressure for pretty much the whole game whilst having to defend against corner after corner and free kick after free kick, eventually somebody is going to lose their man and you will concede a goal.

This is a JJ thread! (and Ginol is right).

teddy_sheringham_125 · Jan 11, 2009

Alfieconnman said:
This is a JJ thread! (and Ginol is right).

It's a Jenas transfer thread and this has nothing to do with that. Plus, there is plenty of Jenas bashing in Spurs chat if that is what is lusted after. Either way, I just can't agree with slagging off a player that came on with 10 mins to go when the whole performance was just terrible and poorly put together. But we are all entitled to our opinions I guess.

ginol@14 · Jan 11, 2009

not blaiming him for the defeat on his own
actually thought we looked quite solid
but he was at fault for the goal and i felt it needed to be pointed out
he is not the all round world class centre mid some people on here think he is

sim0n · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
Hi million - I wouldn't worry about JJ's squad role it won't happen

he's a key mid for us and will continue to be so

if for some bizarre reason he wasn't seen as a key player, of course he'd be off

there'd be plenty of teams higher than us in the lge who'd want him and plenty of continental teams too

Admit it, you're JJ's agent aren't you?... C'mon, 'fess up... :hump:

fazza · Jan 11, 2009

Can't we just give Jenas away, or does nobody want him, Brighton :shrug:

teddy_sheringham_125 · Jan 11, 2009

ginol@14 said:
not blaiming him for the defeat on his own
actually thought we looked quite solid
but he was at fault for the goal and i felt it needed to be pointed out
he is not the all round world class centre mid some people on here think he is

Fair enough. Just frustrated after another lacklustre performance.

DC_Boy · Jan 11, 2009

well today showed again why our jj is our best mid, and if HR wants to keep us up one of the first things he has to do is start JJ v pompey

BringBack_leGin · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
well today showed again why our jj is our best mid, and if HR wants to keep us up one of the first things he has to do is start JJ v pompey

While I still disagree with you, I would definitely start him every time at the moment. We just seem devoid going forward. Defensively we were fine today. In fact, if we can keep King playing in central midfield as often as possible, Zokora all of a sudden becomes quite unnecessary. I would, regardless of the formation, put Jenas Lennon and Modric in every time from now on. Who goes left, right and central is open to debate, but we are not conceding that many goals, we are just absolute shit going forward. We need our midfield to be as attacking as possible.

nuttynoah · Jan 11, 2009

fazza said:
Can't we just give Jenas away, or does nobody want him, Brighton :shrug:

that's a good call, someone suggest this to his agent, tell him he could certainly use his invisibility to his advantage down at a certain beach

mil1lion · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
well today showed again why our jj is our best mid, and if HR wants to keep us up one of the first things he has to do is start JJ v pompey

JJ is our best option as the holding midfielder i would say. We definitely need to sign a proper holding midfielder though. JJ was at fault for the goal though. Aweful marking as usual. Both Jenas and Zokora are so poor at defending set pieces. God knows why Zokora was marking Zaki, i thought we were lucky Zaki didn't score today.

DC_Boy · Jan 11, 2009

JJ was not at fault for the goal

at fault was our policy of relying on Gomes injured or not

he should have been off with a decent reserve on - that ball could have been taken by a good keeper

what chance did JJ have of preventing that - very very little

as I say this game showed our best mid is JJ

and I'd like to hear anyone's views on who is a better mid than JJ that we currently have

haxman · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
JJ was not at fault for the goal

at fault was our policy of relying on Gomes injured or not

he should have been off with a decent reserve on - that ball could have been taken by a good keeper

what chance did JJ have of preventing that - very very little

as I say this game showed our best mid is JJ

and I'd like to hear anyone's views on who is a better mid than JJ that we currently have

As I said in another thread, Modric is our best midfielder. Jenas disappears too often in games to be called our best midfielder.

BringBack_leGin · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
JJ was not at fault for the goal

at fault was our policy of relying on Gomes injured or not

he should have been off with a decent reserve on - that ball could have been taken by a good keeper

what chance did JJ have of preventing that - very very little

as I say this game showed our best mid is JJ

and I'd like to hear anyone's views on who is a better mid than JJ that we currently have

I would like to hear how you are saying that Gomes is not a good keeper?

Alfieconnman · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
JJ was not at fault for the goal:violin:

at fault was our policy of relying on Gomes injured or not

he should have been off with a decent reserve on - that ball could have been taken by a good keeper

what chance did JJ have of preventing that - very very little :violin:

as I say this game showed our best mid is JJ :rofl:

and I'd like to hear anyone's views on who is a better mid than JJ that we currently have

You are so absurdly biased towards Jenas that even if he scored five own goals, shot the rest of the team and buggered the ref you would still say he had a good game - please try and be less blinkered. As to who is better in mid than him - Mod & O'Hara for starters, both in terms of skill and commitment. Brush the love dust from your eyes and get real.

$hoguN · Jan 11, 2009

Modric is a better midfielder then JJ, Huddlestone was vital to our upturn in fortune when Harry first arrived and i can't for the life of me see why he didnt play in that formation today, O'Hara is up for the battle we are in so atm i'd argue he is better then JJ too

mil1lion · Jan 11, 2009

DC_Boy said:
JJ was not at fault for the goal

at fault was our policy of relying on Gomes injured or not

he should have been off with a decent reserve on - that ball could have been taken by a good keeper

what chance did JJ have of preventing that - very very little

as I say this game showed our best mid is JJ

and I'd like to hear anyone's views on who is a better mid than JJ that we currently have

You're right on the Gomes part. God knows why Cesar is so disliked that we would rather a 1 legged keeper than him (they must really not rate him.) But how you can say Jenas was not at fault for losing his marker i really dont know. I agree that he is our best midfielder, in the sense that he's our best box to box midfielder.

People say that Modric is our best midfielder but thats an unfair comparison. They are both different types of player. He would not have defended the corner any better. Zokora wouldn't have defended the corner any better. And Huddlestone wouldn't have defended the corner any better. So its not just Jenas.

Its been a big problem we've had with our midfielders over the years. We lack midfielders who are powerful in the air and who can actually man mark. I hope Appiah is better at defending corners. Because we rely too much on the centre backs to defend, and its often our midfielders who lose their runners and not the centre backs.

Inler and Appiah

ray:

$hoguN · Jan 11, 2009

disagree Huddlestone would have defended the corner better he has spent half his career playing CB and im sure he wouldnt have lost his man in that situation

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