DiscoD1882
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Hmm Gary Doherty Helda Postiga, remember them? Worst Post ever!
Peter Crouch is.....
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Yep as has been said by some of the more sensible posters this is the sort of knee-jerk nonsense that paints some Spurs fans in a bad light.
The basic problem is that we need to play one up front to accomodate VdV but none of our strikers are actually suited to that role.
Crouch relies on knock downs which are always going to be hit and miss, Pav can't control the football and Keane even at his peak was never a lone front man.
Crouchie didn't have a good game today but he's set up every goal that VdV has scored so far (bar the penalty) so to say 'he's shit' etc etc is short sighted and, to be honest, wrong.
The basic problem is that we need to play one up front to accomodate VdV but none of our strikers are actually suited to that role.
Crouch relies on knock downs which are always going to be hit and miss, Pav can't control the football and Keane even at his peak was never a lone front man.
Crouchie didn't have a good game today but he's set up every goal that VdV has scored so far (bar the penalty) so to say 'he's shit' etc etc is short sighted and, to be honest, wrong.
HildoSpur
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Crouch has his limitations but what he does well, he does very very well indeed. He is a frustrating player as he gets in good positions, gets the chances but (imo) doesnt have either the strength or the aggression in his game to put those chances away. Sometimes I see him jump for a cross, connect with the ball, only to see his header weakly head towards the opposing keeper. It is frustrating however he is a valuable asset to the team in many other ways. I dont understand some of the poster's view of him though, not sure why they cant see what he does bring to the team, which is a lot.
Raxscallion
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You're ignoring the point. "Just after his third" onwards is irrelevant. I used it as an example of him demonstrating quality ball control, which even you've admitted it does.
Raxscallion
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I've got a theory about the Crouch haters.
I think they're all short.
I think they're all short.
brett.spurs
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..... holding us back, just like the rest of our mediocre forwards that cost us a combined 50m.
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I think if we had a decent alternative then I could see why people would be clamouring for Crouch to be dropped. But Pav isn't a decent alternative. He's an alternative that's as good as Crouch at best (and I don't think he's actually even at that level).
At the end of the day neither of them are really good enough. One gets some goals from relatively easy positions but has the link up play of Titus Bramble, and the other holds the ball up well and can bring others into the game but seems to have the killer instinct of a damp sheep. If we combined them we'd have a half decent player but for now I think we'll be complaining about the strikers whoever plays.
At the end of the day neither of them are really good enough. One gets some goals from relatively easy positions but has the link up play of Titus Bramble, and the other holds the ball up well and can bring others into the game but seems to have the killer instinct of a damp sheep. If we combined them we'd have a half decent player but for now I think we'll be complaining about the strikers whoever plays.
jonathanhotspur
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His ball control is poor, generally speaking. It was an adequate first touch-nothing more. It amounted to jackshit. Bottom line here, Raxscallion.
Personally I felt his touch was relatively good in the game against Citeh last season but such performances are rare.
Raxscallion
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Actually I think either of them would be good enough, if they were playing alongside Forlan, or Drogba, or Shearer in his prime etc... But you're right that neither are good enough to 'lead the line'.
jonathanhotspur
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Pav might infuriate but at least when he he gets the nod, we don't end up watching hoofball. I don't much like hoofball.
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Crouch started off pretty well, but his performance tailed off as the game went on.
He did well with the knock downs, and thats how our last three goals at the Lane have been scored, but when presented with a free header he aimed it right at the keeper. When he was twetny yards out with space to shoot, he scuffs it along the ground. He also challenged for an aerial ball against Pienaar with a raised foot, giving away a foul, rather than using his foot height advantage and heading the sodding thing.
He also should have had at least one penalty for a blatant foul.
When he is on fire, against a team not ready or able to defend against him, he can be lethal. However, I am not convinced he has the fire in his belly to really get through the tough times.
Crouch is a typical Spurs player you might say - sometimes red hot, sometimes ice cold. He can plant a header as against Bremen, or he can fail to test a keeper for the U7s.
One thing is for certain, he'll do better with people supporting him rather than slagging him off when he doesnt perform. Yes, there is room for more improvement in our striking options than in most other positions, but while a player wears the shirt I hope he does well.
He did well with the knock downs, and thats how our last three goals at the Lane have been scored, but when presented with a free header he aimed it right at the keeper. When he was twetny yards out with space to shoot, he scuffs it along the ground. He also challenged for an aerial ball against Pienaar with a raised foot, giving away a foul, rather than using his foot height advantage and heading the sodding thing.
He also should have had at least one penalty for a blatant foul.
When he is on fire, against a team not ready or able to defend against him, he can be lethal. However, I am not convinced he has the fire in his belly to really get through the tough times.
Crouch is a typical Spurs player you might say - sometimes red hot, sometimes ice cold. He can plant a header as against Bremen, or he can fail to test a keeper for the U7s.
One thing is for certain, he'll do better with people supporting him rather than slagging him off when he doesnt perform. Yes, there is room for more improvement in our striking options than in most other positions, but while a player wears the shirt I hope he does well.
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Agree with all you've said. :up:
This is a ridiculous knee-jerk thread just because he didn't have his best game. He's still a great player to have in our squad. I just wouldn't want to rely on him week in week out. Though I think the only reason we are is because Defoe's injured and both Pav and Keane aren't as good as Crouch. I do think we need to do whatever we can to get a top class striker, but I'd certainly want us to keep Crouch if and when we did, because he's a great option to have.
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I did!
Crouch is a crap target man. He is muscled out of nearly every challenge, he can't jump unless he has a run up with no-one near him. when he gets his head to the ball, 9 times out of 10 it goes to an opponent. He misses chance after chance with headers that are off target, or have no power. He misses more chances with crap shooting. And as to "putting in a shift" Emile Heskey and carlton cole "put in a shift" but i wouldn't want either of them in my team!
What is the point of having the silky skills of modric and van der vaart if we are going to lump the ball at crouch all game in the vain hope we will get a knock down somewhere in the region of one of our players every 19 or 20 tries at it?
beats1
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When he plays, the balls goes in to the box in the air all the time, and this still happens when pav is playing, which means he has to play near him to get the flick ons or he has drifts wide and cross it in
Graham taylor said that when crouch was young he was so tall that he didn't have jump for crosses and develop didn't his heading skills and neck muscles, and thats why he isn't a great header of the ball
For england he gets the ball at chest height or lower and also has better goalscoring record with them. Strangely Harry said last week that england played crouch wrong with the ball going to his feet not his head.
But whats worse is, if defenders can foul him continuously and get away with whats the point playing him
I dont what you lot will think about this,
All round player: Crouch>K Jones
Heading ability: K Jones>Crouch
Who would be a better fit for spurs:Jones>Crouch
Graham taylor said that when crouch was young he was so tall that he didn't have jump for crosses and develop didn't his heading skills and neck muscles, and thats why he isn't a great header of the ball
For england he gets the ball at chest height or lower and also has better goalscoring record with them. Strangely Harry said last week that england played crouch wrong with the ball going to his feet not his head.
But whats worse is, if defenders can foul him continuously and get away with whats the point playing him
I dont what you lot will think about this,
All round player: Crouch>K Jones
Heading ability: K Jones>Crouch
Who would be a better fit for spurs:Jones>Crouch
Raxscallion
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Kenwyne Jones is underrated. He's not good enough to solve our striking problems, but he's better than he gets credit for.
Like I say, he's not good enough, but he is the right type of player. We have sod all strength up front. Defoe's a midget, Crouch is a stick-insect, and Pav must weigh all of 5 stone.
Like I say, he's not good enough, but he is the right type of player. We have sod all strength up front. Defoe's a midget, Crouch is a stick-insect, and Pav must weigh all of 5 stone.
brett.spurs
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I hope we have a shortlist of top quality forwards drawn up to go and get in January, surely Harry and Daniel have discussed this dozens of times now.
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wow didnt watch any of the game today, but he must have been worse than he was on wednesday for the majority to now think he is rubbish.
ive always said he is good to have around as an option off the bench, plan B for the last 10 mins when we need a goal.
Always play pav or keane ahead of him when defoe isnt fit, even if they dont score, they encourage us to keep it on the deck
ive always said he is good to have around as an option off the bench, plan B for the last 10 mins when we need a goal.
Always play pav or keane ahead of him when defoe isnt fit, even if they dont score, they encourage us to keep it on the deck
ExpatFan
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Obviously you never saw Laurie Brown play.
Indeed, when did you start watching Spurs?
This decade?
Last decade?
1990s?
1980s?
1970s?
1960s?
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