The Weekend ITK Discussion Thread - 25/26 August 2012

Joeyboey · Aug 27, 2012

Mr Pink said:
Yeah, that's the way it will go. We'll get loads of ITK before then but really it wont matter until Thursday night/Friday morning arrives. That's when we'll move.

So true. There's going to be some cracking ITK to ignore between now and then ; - )

Mr Pink · Aug 27, 2012

Nerine said:
In a way, I'd sooner have Dembele than Moutinho. Less risk.

AVB would be able to make it work. At the end of the day isn't he pretty similar to Moutinho?

Plus, Dembeles stock will go up. We then hold the aces, club makes shed loads of money etc etc when we sell these rough diamonds on.

That's what we need.

Rough diamonds.

Yes that sounds a bit poncey...

To be fair, I'd take Dempsey off of Fulhams hands too.

They have different attributes, but can play similar positions/roles. Dembele would be stronger at ball carrying and riding tackles etc Both tenacious and like to tackle though. Moutinho would be more adept at playing those cute passes and generally retaining good possession. Dembele has a nice passing game as well, and his footwork and touch is awesome.

I would be happy at either, I really would.

lillywhites61 · Aug 27, 2012

Mr Pink said:
They have different attributes, but can play similar positions/roles. Dembele would be stronger at ball carrying and riding tackles etc Both tenacious and like to tackle though. Moutinho would be more adept at playing those cute passes and generally retaining good possession. Dembele has a nice passing game as well, and his footwork and touch is awesome.

I would be happy at either, I really would.

My sentiments exactly, both would contribute hugely right now.

ryantegan · Aug 27, 2012

Finally people are beginning to see the role that levy has given himself

Harry described the working relationship as murder. Levy gets the players that levy wants 95% of the time and it's usually on deadline day.

It's boring and detrimental to our team

Avb wants a player then let him have the player. He should be able to live AND die by the sword. Not just die

aRTy · Aug 27, 2012

Blackcanary said:
I can't get over how bad Ronaldo looked TBH!

Am I the only one feeling quite sanguine over the transfer window? Or have I just reached the 'acceptance' stage of this horror show?

Acceptance. It's been such a long, drawn out saga that i think most people are numb to him leaving.

Snuzzy · Aug 27, 2012

AVB had that at Chelsea. And he died.

Here, he can accept that we can't do blank cheques or even premium fees, but in return we'll give him more space to work with the squad and not relegate him to a contributing dressing room voice.

shaqTHFC · Aug 27, 2012

Is Moutinho's price £30m or 30m euros? If it's in euros then I think he'd be worth the money especially as he's the one AVB wants.

Spursidol · Aug 27, 2012

Shep said:
If in Levy is our "unofficial" DoF with the consultation of Pleat, Sherwood amongst others (if you believe the ITK), why don't we just get a well respected European based DoF who is versed in the style, philosophy and future plans of AVB and get him to scour the globe for the next generation of talent in every major continent of the world?

It is nice to be linked with the likes of the Llorente's and Moutinho's but what does it ever amount to? In the meantime, United go and get Chicarito for £7m, Fulham get hold of Dembele for £5m and Newcastle get Tiote and Cabaye for a combined £7m. All of those players, and their prices, are all perfectly within our reach regardless of what European competition we are playing in and the wage structure we have. Just because these players have been snapped doesn't mean that they then cease to exist.

When you look at how well clubs like Lyon and Sevilla have competed in recent times it can be done so I do not know why we don't just bite the bullet and employ a DoF than continue with this bastardised half and half set up we currently operate with.

Spurs have a scouting system to look at potential targets - Redknapp mentioned that he/his people did not fancy Cisse (went to Newcastle), be also broke the story on Dember Ba's release clause - but clearly did not fancy either. The scouts and Redknapp did like Remy but Marselles Chairman did not want to sell at that time despite acknowledging a substantial bid from Spurs.

I have no doubt that AVB and Levy have a mutually agreed list of targets (quite likely partly suggested by scouts) and negotiations are going on to secure them. However the pot of money will always be limited - if the rumours are true and Moutinho is only for sale at £30m then its pretty obvious we are unlikely toi buy since RM will only pay maybe £33m (including profits from freindly matches and add ons) for Modric - a far superior player. Time to move on and get a more obtainable player at a more realistic price.

Newcastle a year ago were in the same position as Spurs under Jol - trying to get in good players quickly and they have done well at that. Spurs now have a much better squad and want the next level of player up, These are fewer in number and harder to get. Newcastle will run into the same problem.

Spurs probably started with a list of top players (eg Llorente, Moutinho) - which is what fans may want but may not be attainable. Real question is who is on List B or C who Spurs may need to buy to fill a short term need if we cannoit get those on List A - but expect efforts to get in thise on List A until the last minute.

hugrr · Aug 27, 2012

ryantegan said:
Finally people are beginning to see the role that levy has given himself

Harry described the working relationship as murder. Levy gets the players that levy wants 95% of the time and it's usually on deadline day.

It's boring and detrimental to our team

Avb wants a player then let him have the player. He should be able to live AND die by the sword. Not just die

It can't be good to not have the control he needs as manager, but then it is Levy that signs the cheques, though he should definitely have a lot more confidence in AVB.

It does make me wonder who was in AVB's dossier of players, didn't he have a comprehensive list of potential signings?

Spursidol · Aug 27, 2012

shaqTHFC said:
Is Moutinho's price £30m or 30m euros? If it's in euros then I think he'd be worth the money especially as he's the one AVB wants.

The most authorative sources seem to be saying £30m - a lot of lazy journalists say 30m euros. However the question is whether Porto will sell at 30 m euros (still would be Spurs record signing - after David Bentley !)

Nerine · Aug 27, 2012

The plot thickens.

Colonel Dax · Aug 27, 2012

ryantegan said:
Finally people are beginning to see the role that levy has given himself

Harry described the working relationship as murder. Levy gets the players that levy wants 95% of the time and it's usually on deadline day.

It's boring and detrimental to our team

Avb wants a player then let him have the player. He should be able to live AND die by the sword. Not just die

That's it exactly. It really makes no sense to hire a new coach and then not allow him to make his own choices with regards to player purchases. The tragedy is that people always blame the manager when it goes tits up, but yet the chairman seems to make ALL the decisions.

tony0379 · Aug 27, 2012

Ah well, I suppose its better failing aiming high and all that bullshit. Goodnight

ryantegan · Aug 27, 2012

hugrr said:
It can't be good to not have the control he needs as manager, but then it is Levy that signs the cheques, though he should definitely have a lot more confidence in AVB.

It does make me wonder who was in AVB's dossier of players, didn't he have a comprehensive list of potential signings?

Levy looked at the book of players and just wrote : "too expensive, how about dembele?" next to everyone

ohh Teddy Teddy · Aug 27, 2012

ryantegan said:
Finally people are beginning to see the role that levy has given himself

Harry described the working relationship as murder. Levy gets the players that levy wants 95% of the time and it's usually on deadline day.

It's boring and detrimental to our team

Avb wants a player then let him have the player. He should be able to live AND die by the sword. Not just die

This is retarded. A very bad start could potentially see you relegated if you can't pick it up again or atleast low in the table than where you should be. If Levy buys the players when needed (aka before the bloody seasons kicks off) then you have more chance of winning all your games instead of your games outside of the transfer window only. By dropping 5 points in the last 2 matches this could cost us Champions League which would bring in more bloody funds than what Levy is saving us at the moment.

meursault · Aug 27, 2012

so where does all the modric money go if it's not used to buy moutinho?

JUSTINSIGNAL · Aug 27, 2012

CHILL WE'VE GOT THIS

DiamondLites · Aug 27, 2012

Worried by the lack if goalkeeper itk, friedel has looked 41 so far this season. Whether its age catching up with him, or the high line but he looks a liability. Rather give gomes another go if we aren't going to pay what's needed for lloris (which is crazy, keepers that good don't become available too often)

whiteheartdave · Aug 27, 2012

meursault said:
so where does all the modric money go if it's not used to buy moutinho?

In the directors pocket

ohh Teddy Teddy · Aug 27, 2012

JUSTINSIGNAL said:
CHILL WE'VE GOT THIS

Can people stop saying this! Soooo annoying and old now!

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