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Tottenham Vs Norwich: Match Thread

UncleBuck

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let a one goal lead slip? Christ, we're obviously moving in the right direction as I can remember 20 years ago when we'd struggle to hold onto two goal leads so its not a new phenomenon!!!
 

Ledders Army

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For me it's not about the result. It's not the fact we've let a 1 nil lead go late on again and the fact it's 1 more point than we got in this fixture last year is completely irrelevant. It's the fact that for the majority of the 90 mins Norwich were the better team, they created the better chances, looked more organised and with a bit more confidence would've probably won comfortably.

We created so little throughout the game, had so little control in the final third and played at such a slow tempo. The 1st halfs of the 1st 2 games gave some encouragement but against Norwich we were awful and other than a few glimpses of what Dembele could become there are are no positives to take from this game.
 

stov

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Nice summing up of our most successful Manager since the PL was formed. I can tell that you must have felt that your post sounded good whilst it was still in your head..............

Roll on more days like today just to get you to realise that the "twat" you talk of just might have been the best thing Spurs have had in decades as Manager.
I agree he was a great manager and our most successful for a long time. But he is gone now and he ain't coming back. This is because he behaved in a twat like way in terms of handling the media, the england job and if rumours are to be believed his poor relationship with levy.
Also why does everyone on here jump on off the cuff remarks as if they reflect one's whole view on a subject? I am an erudite and well educated guy but sometimes I just like to talk shit on a forum if that's OK. I do not sit in my house thinking whether a comment sounds good or not- there are more important things in life.
 

linker10

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Dec 6, 2006
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For me it's not about the result. It's not the fact we've let a 1 nil lead go late on again and the fact it's 1 more point than we got in this fixture last year is completely irrelevant. It's the fact that for the majority of the 90 mins Norwich were the better team, they created the better chances, looked more organised and with a bit more confidence would've probably won comfortably.

We created so little throughout the game, had so little control in the final third and played at such a slow tempo. The 1st halfs of the 1st 2 games gave some encouragement but against Norwich we were awful and other than a few glimpses of what Dembele could become there are are no positives to take from this game.
 

linker10

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Dec 6, 2006
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For me it's not about the result. It's not the fact we've let a 1 nil lead go late on again and the fact it's 1 more point than we got in this fixture last year is completely irrelevant. It's the fact that for the majority of the 90 mins Norwich were the better team, they created the better chances, looked more organised and with a bit more confidence would've probably won comfortably.

We created so little throughout the game, had so little control in the final third and played at such a slow tempo. The 1st halfs of the 1st 2 games gave some encouragement but against Norwich we were awful and other than a few glimpses of what Dembele could become there are are no positives to take from this game.

We are painfully missing Modric and VDV the glue which makes Spurs tick. The presence in Aerial power of Kab , King and Dawson are badly missed at the back. Striker problem remains the same blunt and cannot hold the ball.
 

BorisTM

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Dec 30, 2007
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For me it's not about the result. It's not the fact we've let a 1 nil lead go late on again and the fact it's 1 more point than we got in this fixture last year is completely irrelevant. It's the fact that for the majority of the 90 mins Norwich were the better team, they created the better chances, looked more organised and with a bit more confidence would've probably won comfortably.

We created so little throughout the game, had so little control in the final third and played at such a slow tempo. The 1st halfs of the 1st 2 games gave some encouragement but against Norwich we were awful and other than a few glimpses of what Dembele could become there are are no positives to take from this game.

Wasn't Sigurdsson supposed to be the creative man? The one who links our 2 holding midfielders with Lennon, Bale and Defoe in the 4-3-3 system?
 

Jonesey

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Apr 20, 2004
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As someone else has already said though, we've been like this since the arsenal game last season.

Varying the midfield a bit was a good idea (and may yet pay off) it's just everywhere else needed a freshen up too!

AVB isn't to blame for any of this (yet).

I'm not 100% on this but i believe the period after the Arsenal game was when Harry started playing 4-3-3 and after a string of very poor performances our confidence was shot to bits and ... Well we all know what happened.

The players are surely apprehensive about the formation. They certainly look like they are.

No one seems to want the ball - except Defoe and every time it goes to him he either taps a tame shot into the opposite keeper's arms or his first touch is so atrocious he loses possession.

Jesus we look poor.
 

hughy

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Nov 18, 2007
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Goals on Sunday just showed the Huddlestone red. Completely refused to show the angle that shows he clearly gets the ball, with 1 foot, and the studs are pointed down to the ground. Disgraceful.

Ben Shephard is a fucking tosser, still thinks it should have been a red. Yet we've got 3 ex-footballers there(debatable with Megson) saying it wasn't a red. :LOL:
 

Flightrisker

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Jan 15, 2006
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If you look at it like that we also beat wba and took a point from Newcastle, so thats really not much consolation.

So we're two points down on last seasons return in the same fixtures. Not bad considering we have a new manager, formation, tactics, and about half a new team.

This was always going to happen. Yes we had some stonking times under Harry but it was never a long term arrangement. Not for either side. We shouldn't forget how many great times we had under Harry nor should we forget the fact that he was certainly partly responsible for pissing away third, clearly was going to jump at the England job if they had knocked and left us with an ageing squad that needed a massive overhaul.

VillasBoas could end up being the best thing to happen to this club, or just another Juande. Whichever outcome is true the fact is he needs time to bed in his ideas and a bit of realism and patience from the fans. Let the gutter trash papers call for his head, they will. And let's stay realistic on what we can expect. If we're getting into 2 from 8 territory then we may need a drastic solution. But for now we're in a rebuilding phase and all we can do is back the players, back the team and back the manager. Come on you Spurs.
 

stonecolddeanaustin

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Aug 27, 2011
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We can argue all week about who played well and who did not but, I haven't seen the game so I can't comment on that, but we got scored pretty much the same way in the last two games as far as I can tell. With only 1 up in the last 10 mins the opposition team goes all or none, because frankly they are losing the game anyway so they might as well try to score. They do everything they can to get a corner or a free kick, then have a whole bunch of people in the box where one of them always seems to be unmarked right at the top of the box by the semi-circle, the ball bounces around the box back and forth few times before ends up there where that man takes a first time shot to score.

But if we look even further back in the past, how many times over the last few years we would have a one goal lead as the end of the game approaches and we would struggle to defend but get lucky in the end. I don't know if this is some kind of Arry's legacy or it's just the way we are. I don't remember it being so obvious during Jol and Ramos though.

Yep, going 1 up front for 10 mins with us is just asking for trouble but one thing that is really riling me is why is neither one or both of Defoe and Lennon on the half way line when we're defending corners. Instead he's got them hanging round the edge of the box ready to block any long shots coming in which I'm sure we can all agree is neither of their strong points. After we clear the first corner this results in the ball coming straight back at us as there's nobody up there to compete for the loose ball and it also means they can afford to put an extra 2 defenders in our box. This imo has contributed to both of these last minute goals (i know defoe wasn't on the pitch for these but Lennon could have been up there).
 

Rogmeister

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The more and more I think about it the more Dempsey could be just what we need. The blokes one of the most versatile players in the league and can get goals from nothing.
 

BorisTM

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One of the things that struck me while watching MOTD was Walker taking the ball all the way across the pitch, dribbling his way through, always looking for someone in the middle to make a run into space, and eventually laying it nicely for Ekotto, who marvelously chips it over a sliding tackle then proceeds to deliver a cross. It kind of felt as if Walker was trying to make a point to our midfield or whoever is supposed to be the creative force there - "Hey this is how you do it".
 

Mikegold

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I honestly don't understand how people are complaining about formations and players picked so far!

With Parker injured, and Dembele just joining, Livermore and Sandro were ALWAYS going to play (Oh Huddlestone being out for a year!). It's stupid to think otherwise and it's not AVBs choice. Same goes for Defoe vs no pre season Adebayour!

We don't have a game for 2 weeks now and I fully expect Lloris in goal, Dembele in midfield and one of Dempsey/Sig to play with Ade up front. I just hope Gallas gets dropped but seems unlikely, other than that we'll be fine from this point on now he has a squad to pick from and not 13 players.
 

jamesc0le

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Jun 17, 2008
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i felt highly critical after watching the foreign stream (no english comm negativity so it had its calm moments) but after seeing the football first 50min lites on the big screen we didnt look half as bad. still bad but nowhere near the shamble i had previously asserted.

oh n Tony Gale is a ****. seriously. negative , negative, negative and then dembele comes on and it's a wankfest.

people have to realise our opinions are sometimes(often?) skewed by stupid biassed commentators (although i'm pretty sure they don't know this themselves). turn the volume down and you'll see what i mean. things aint half as bad when you don't have some condescending ****face talking shit to you. lol. ironic.


on a sadder note, arsenal were good today.:coffee:
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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They'll score. Will be 2-1 to us or 2-2 with a goal in the last few minutes by them.

It's really so very sad that it's so predictable that we'll let in a late goal. A psychological glitch that has plagued us for far too long. Needs to be fixed right now.
 

ItsBoris

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Watching the game again, I thought this screenshot was interesting. This is right before Sandro takes a shot from about 30 yards out. There's 4 players here that are forward near the Norwich offside line. From left to right they are Defoe, Livermore, Sigurdsson, and Bale. Defoe and Livermore strike me as being in poor positions, Sig and Bale are in very good positions. Sigurdsson especially is in yards of space. Right before Sandro takes the shot, Sigurdsson turns his head and looks at Bale then puts his hand up to ask for the ball from Sandro. What should happen here is the possibility that Sigurdsson can see, which is that he recieves the ball from Sandro and plays a through pass between the Norwich center back and left back, while Bale breaks the offside trap. Of course it didn't happen because we were impatient and in shoot on site mode, but I'm sure when our players get to know each other better these things will come. At least there is some sign of intelligence in our team although IMO Defoe will rarely get himself into good positions which is the case here.

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