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Wolf_Autopsy

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You really think wanting AVB out is the same thing as wanting Sherwood in? how thick are you man? He's an interim with no experience, if you wanna gloat..wait 2 years, give our next REAL manager 18 months, and if hes collectively in a worse place than AVB was...then you might have a point.
 

npr60

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If we keep making the same mistake of sacking our manager after a bad run of games as soon as the going gets a bit tough, and in doing so setting ourselves back another five years...only to then go and do the same thing again, and again and again, there's only so long I can remain interested and enthusiastic about it all. We get a good young manager in and we make the same fucking mistakes and get rid because the fans think we have some divine right to win everything before us and if not they'll boo and howl until he's gone. Well enough now, who we gonna get in and why will it be any different. Glenn fucking Hoddle? Again? Haven't we already tried and sacked him? Who's the next mug? If we can't learn from our own mistakes we should at least try and learn from other people's. But no, sack the fucking manager instead. You carry on 'supporting' mate, until we sack the next bloke crazy enough to have a go. It's the fans and their immediate expectancy that's the major underlying problem. I'm not one of them, I wanted AVB to be given a good chance and let him have the job long term to actually build something. Don't give me that shit.

I see what you are saying - I understand - You had a man crush and you're fiinding it difficult to reconcile your feelings! However, the fans didn't get. AVB sacked - I'm pretty sure he managed that all by his lonesome! (Not for the first time by all accounts). And hysterics make us Tottenhams fans look like ****s - so perhaps think before bitching :)
 

Donki

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AVB said it himself and he was right. The fans are fucking shit, even the players don't like playing at home. Look at our home form. Isnt it a coincidence? We've looked much better away all season. He was right but there's no point in me arguing it is there? You're the very fans he means.

Tbh mate we have looked shit where ever we have played all season.
 

Davo99

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The funny thing is fans are already calling for Sherwood to fuck off. He hasn't even got the job yet. You literally couldn't make it up.
 

dagraham

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AVB said it himself and he was right. The fans are fucking shit, even the players don't like playing at home. Look at our home form. Isnt it a coincidence? We've looked much better away all season. He was right but there's no point in me arguing it is there? You're the very fans he means.

If only we could clone you 36,000 times we'd win the fucking league.
 

Legend10

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I could probably write yours too while I'm at it if you like.


But I'm open minded on what might happen, I didn't want at this stage to see AVB go either, but he has and I'm interested to see how we develop and what direction we go in from here.

You're going to just compare everything negatively with AVB and drone on about the same old players and you've kicked straight in after just 1 game, I think even you know that's what is going to happen.
 

ohtottenham!

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The fans got AVB sacked. There's no doubt in my mind. And in doing so blew what was a great opportunity we had in having AVB as boss.
Ohh...I see what you mean.
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barry

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Yeah that's actually part of my grievance. It's the fact you have to side with one system, player or manager and that clouds their judgement and it adds to this never ending negativity.

It's impossible for some to remain tight lipped and put the club ahead of their opinions. They rate their own self importance too highly (particularly when they probably have achieved fuck all in terms of football - so have no real evidence to back up their opinions).

I know I'm pissing into the wind with this, but that's my onions and I can only try and shout as loudly against those that are so outspoken.

So your a fan of who exactly? What does this post mean?
 

Snarfalicious

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AVB said it himself and he was right. The fans are fucking shit, even the players don't like playing at home. Look at our home form. Isnt it a coincidence? We've looked much better away all season. He was right but there's no point in me arguing it is there? You're the very fans he means.

The negativity swirling around this club right now is just nonstop. It seeps through from the media and it's exacerbated by some of (not all) fans. We all want to be successful. We all want to play attractive and effective football. Isn't it easier to back the club/players than to bitch and moan? For me, it is. Yes, it sucks to watch us suck, but seriously, bitching and moaning is only going to make all this bullshit surrounding the club a never-ending cycle as nothing will ever be enough (outside of winning a title which seems a long way off at this point). I never understand it.

"I pay money to watch the club." "We are the fans who make the club run." Fuck that. People pay money to go watch matches with a preconceived notion that "if shit hits the fan, I'm booing this squad today." Get over yourself. Sell your tickets if you want to be like that. Being from America, I'd kill to have the opportunity to go to a Spurs match just once a year. Be fucking grateful you have that opportunity, it's a privilege. I've been supporting this club for years and have never even been able to watch them live at WHL.

I'm not overly optimistic and I am no expert on human behaviors, but I'd imagine it'd be much more likely for the squad to play determined and make the most of out of playing at home if they knew that thick or thin, the fans had their back.
 

Nocando

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AVB is the greatest coach ever, the board and players fucked it all up


So your a fan of who exactly? What does this post mean?

This sums up my angst. I'm a fan of the club. It's not about being a fan of one person or style etc. I realise that I'm in no position to really comment on many things to do with the club and even if I did I certainly like to try and qualify my lower opinion and put it into context.

In fact quite often I'm willing to refrain from my own opinions in order to not add to the making mountains out of molehill effect. Particulary when 99% of the opinions are absolute tosh and unfounded and unproven.

Our fans have got it all wrong.
 

Davo99

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We still don't know if AVB was actually sacked.
If he walked I couldn't fucking blame him. He didn't deserve all the bollocks he got, he deserved a lot better. I know recent results weren't great but he has his team sold from underneath him, gets another thrown together and thrown at him and when he's not doing even better than the year before he gets sacked. It's embarrassing yet so, so typical.
 

barry

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May 22, 2005
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This sums up my angst. I'm a fan of the club. It's not about being a fan of one person or style etc. I realise that I'm in no position to really comment on many things to do with the club and even if I did I certainly like to try and qualify my lower opinion and put it into context.

In fact quite often I'm willing to refrain from my own opinions in order to not add to the making mountains out of molehill effect. Particulary when 99% of the opinions are absolute tosh and unfounded and unproven.

Our fans have got it all wrong.

Fair enough
 

tiger666

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Jan 4, 2005
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AVB said it himself and he was right. The fans are fucking shit, even the players don't like playing at home. Look at our home form. Isnt it a coincidence? We've looked much better away all season. He was right but there's no point in me arguing it is there? You're the very fans he means.

Fucking hell you're great. Can I friend you on Facebook? You're like, a shining example to us all.

Except you're not are you, you're going on as though you've been our greatest fan ever and never slag off our players. Looking over some of your posts brings out

"Serious question: is Andros Townsend even good?"

"Dembele, Dawson and Naughton are just shocking"

"Dear Harry Redknapp,

Kindly fuck off. You're a boring old man who is no longer the manager of Tottenham Hotspur. Get over it you sad pathetic man. Just shut the fuck up - just once. Please. Fuck off.!

"I still cannot believe how much Dembele gets overrated by Spurs fans."

Everyone slags people off now and again. I do it myself, but don't strut about making out you're something special.
 
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Donki

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But I'm open minded on what might happen, I didn't want at this stage to see AVB go either, but he has and I'm interested to see how we develop and what direction we go in from here.

You're going to just compare everything negatively with AVB and drone on about the same old players and you've kicked straight in after just 1 game, I think even you know that's what is going to happen.

Mate that attitude doesn't allow u to say I told u so..... That's what ur doing wrong!! It's all about polishing your own knob.... U know this :).
 

scat1620

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May 11, 2008
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Fucking hell you're great. Can I friend you on Facebook? You're like, a shining example to us all.

Actually, you're going on as though you've been our greatest fan ever and never slag off our players. Looking over some of your posts brings out

"Serious question: is Andros Townsend even good?"

"Dembele, Dawson and Naughton are just shocking"

"Dear Harry Redknapp,

Kindly fuck off. You're a boring old man who is no longer the manager of Tottenham Hotspur. Get over it you sad pathetic man. Just shut the fuck up - just once. Please. Fuck off.!

"I still cannot believe how much Dembele gets overrated by Spurs fans."

Everyone slags people off now and again. I do it myself, but don't strut about making out you're something special.
I can smell burning...
 

nightgoat

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I'd be absolutely amazed if AVB didn't want Vlad for the system we were playing under him.

It's possible that he may have wanted to keep Caulker and not have to buy a replacement. Wasn't there suggestion in the summer that Caulker was sold because he said something about Lewis' daughter or something? I can also understand him not wanting, or feeling the need to sign Chadli. When we signed him the noises were still that Bale would be staying. Add that to Townsend coming back from loan and Sigurdsson being used wide frequently last season and Chadli would seem surplus to requirements.

In fact it wouldn't at all surprise me if Levy was the main instigator of the end of window spree. Once Bale was going to be sold Levy would know he'd be held culpable rather than AVB and probably felt the need to make a statement to the fans, so to speak. Which obviously worked, as the majority of the fans (on here at least) were creaming themselves at every signing and rumour.

Given how cautious AVB was in integrating Lloris into the team last season, I find it highly likely he would not have wanted to have had to have been left with so many new signings (as well as two returning loanees and Kaboul coming back from injury) with which to construct a team. With the press and fans realising that this could be the most open season at the top of the league for over a decade for the simple reason that three of the previous season's top four were going through the upheaval of new managers, I think AVB thought the teams who would profit most would be the ones who had the least amount of disruption to deal with. Arsenal and Liverpool being top is testament enough to this.
 

Stevie_ni2003

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If he walked I couldn't fucking blame him. He didn't deserve all the bollocks he got, he deserved a lot better. I know recent results weren't great but he has his team sold from underneath him, gets another thrown together and thrown at him and when he's not doing even better than the year before he gets sacked. It's embarrassing yet so, so typical.

He had 1 key player sold for a record fee.

Why are people so oblivious to the shit he had us playing in both seasons. He had a freak of a player in Bale to mask over the cracks which were visible even in the early days. Our inability to break down teams.
 

Davo99

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The negativity swirling around this club right now is just nonstop. It seeps through from the media and it's exacerbated by some of (not all) fans. We all want to be successful. We all want to play attractive and effective football. Isn't it easier to back the club/players than to bitch and moan? For me, it is. Yes, it sucks to watch us suck, but seriously, bitching and moaning is only going to make all this bullshit surrounding the club a never-ending cycle as nothing will ever be enough (outside of winning a title which seems a long way off at this point). I never understand it.

"I pay money to watch the club." "We are the fans who make the club run." Fuck that. People pay money to go watch matches with a preconceived notion that "if shit hits the fan, I'm booing this squad today." Get over yourself. Sell your tickets if you want to be like that. Being from America, I'd kill to have the opportunity to go to a Spurs match just once a year. Be fucking grateful you have that opportunity, it's a privilege. I've been supporting this club for years and have never even been able to watch them live at WHL.

I'm not overly optimistic and I am no expert on human behaviors, but I'd imagine it'd be much more likely for the squad to play determined and make the most of out of playing at home if they knew that thick or thin, the fans had their back.
You are completely missing the point. Hilariously so. You think I'm moaning about the team. I'm moaning at everyone fucking moaning and turning on the team. Our support is pathetic and it's holding us back. We boo and boo and boo until the boss gets sacked and we start over. And repeat. And repeat again. Instead of getting behind the team win lose or draw. AVB said it himself. If we win at home 1-0 it would be in spite of the fans, not with the help of them.
 
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