The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Hand in Pocket Edition Pt II - 28th May 2014

DiamondLites · May 30, 2014

Ricardo Rodriguez is my dream signing. Unfortunately he will be out of our reach after the WC, if he isn't already

Him, Bashuayi and Lovren and I'd be delighted. Someone like Konoplyanka would be the cherry on top but not essential as we have Chadli

DanielCHillier · May 30, 2014

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
FFS, this season was a disaster, Lloris and Eriksen aside, there was absolutely nothing to write home about.

So instead of criticising individuals, why don't you just support them? Lots of you are quick to bash the board and the players for all that is wrong at the club, without looking at yourselves and the negative atmosphere you've created. White Hart Lane is practically a graveyard now.

You'd think that now we have an exciting new manager, and new found optimism, we'd actually be pulling in the same direction, but unsurprisingly, we've still got those fans who are predicting a disaster under Poch, and slamming individual players for no reason whatsoever.

They are what is wrong with this Club.

Crystal Palace are a perfect example of how massively fans can influence the on pitch performances

HappySpur · May 30, 2014

ShaunL84 said:
I've never seen Ricardo Rodriguez play but he's pretty good on FM and Youtube so I wouldn't be against it.

This makes me want to Samba, bitches

1...
2...
cha cha cha

and Now it's Funtime Friday

Gaz_Gammon · May 30, 2014

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
FFS, this season was a disaster, Lloris and Eriksen aside, there was absolutely nothing to write home about.

So instead of criticising individuals, why don't you just support them? Lots of you are quick to bash the board and the players for all that is wrong at the club, without looking at yourselves and the negative atmosphere you've created. White Hart Lane is practically a graveyard now.

You'd think that now we have an exciting new manager, and new found optimism, we'd actually be pulling in the same direction, but unsurprisingly, we've still got those fans who are predicting a disaster under Poch, and slamming individual players for no reason whatsoever.

They are what is wrong with this Club.

You pays ya money and you take your choice.

Being self righteous and holier than thou, serves you no favours at all.

You last paragraph could have been written seven or eight times during Levy's reign (just insert Santini, Jol, Ramos, Redknapp, AVB, or Sherwood for Poch) and perhaps that's the reason for such pessimism from some who contribute on here.

I have paid for a season ticket each year for the last thirty years, and feel that i am entitled to an opinion on the team, it's manager or coach (or flavour of the month) and the main board. If you actually blocked all the SC members who leveled criticism of the team and management over the course of a season then you'd end up replying to your own posts.

Finally, by stating that "FFS, this season was a disaster, Lloris and Eriksen aside, there was absolutely nothing to write home about" isn't that what your ranting is against?

Were you "pulling in the same direction" last season?

Just wondering like.

arunspurs · May 30, 2014

dantheyid said:
I'm genuinely gobsmacked

Yes, I can see that you have been smacked in your gob!

easley91 · May 30, 2014

Is Ricardo Rodriguez going to be our new stadium announcer?

jimbo · May 30, 2014

Gaz_Gammon said:
You pays ya money and you take your choice....

I have paid for a season ticket each year for the last thirty years, and feel that i am entitled to an opinion on the team...

That's the problem. You're welcome to hold an opinion if you like but you ain't entitled to shit.

The argument that paying money for a ticket somehow entitles you to something makes you a customer of THFC not a supporter.

gazzeh · May 30, 2014

easley91 said:
Is Ricardo Rodriguez going to be our new stadium announcer?

His names Ricardo Rodriguez, sign him up damnit.

MarkyP · May 30, 2014

dantheyid said:
Are we talking about chadli as the great back up winger?
Probably the worst most useless winger I've ever seen

ummmm ok..
yet we have Andros Townsend who is somehow stealing a living as a "winger" for us....
wouldn't surprise me if Stewart Downing had better stats this season than Townsend... hopefully we can flog him to Harry during the summer..

arunspurs · May 30, 2014

Why is yesterday's Jasper info (from SO) on Lloris not got into ITK section ? Was that fake info or was A&C not notified ?

ever · May 30, 2014

arunspurs said:
Why is yesterday's Jasper info (from SO) on Lloris not got into ITK section ? Was that fake info or was A&C not notified ?

no one has posted it in the RO thread as yet, anyone can post in there, it just take s the all powerful mods to approve it, i on the other hand haven't seen the post in question

SpurSince57 · May 30, 2014

SargeantMeatCurtains said:
FFS, this season was a disaster, Lloris and Eriksen aside, there was absolutely nothing to write home about.

So instead of criticising individuals, why don't you just support them? Lots of you are quick to bash the board and the players for all that is wrong at the club, without looking at yourselves and the negative atmosphere you've created. White Hart Lane is practically a graveyard now.

You'd think that now we have an exciting new manager, and new found optimism, we'd actually be pulling in the same direction, but unsurprisingly, we've still got those fans who are predicting a disaster under Poch, and slamming individual players for no reason whatsoever.

They are what is wrong with this Club.

69 points and sixth was hardly a disaster unless you'd convinced yourself we were going to win the title, in which case you've probably already gone up to the top of the nearest tall building and chucked your head off it. Disappointing, sure, and Eriksen aside our new signings were underwhelming (or in Lamela's case, invisible), but again, were people really expecting them to rip the league up? Despite playing some seriously uninspiring football at times we maintained our position in the top six and secured a place in Europe. Par isn't a catastrophe.

arthurgrimsdell · May 30, 2014

DanielCHillier said:
Crystal Palace are a perfect example of how massively fans can influence the on pitch performances

This is nonsense. The support of the fans was exactly the same while they were adrift at the bottom of the league as it was when they were gaining points under Pulis. It was Pulis's influence which got Palace to safety. Palace are a perfect example of how positive support from fans has little effect on players' performances. However when the supporters stop supporting and start becoming negative this can have an adverse effect on performances, particularly when individual players are picked on. Fans' power lies in their negativity not their positivity. Which is a great shame.

0-Tibsy-0 · May 30, 2014

arthurgrimsdell said:
This is nonsense. The support of the fans was exactly the same while they were adrift at the bottom of the league as it was when they were gaining points under Pulis. It was Pulis's influence which got Palace to safety. Palace are a perfect example of how positive support from fans has little effect on players' performances. However when the supporters stop supporting and start becoming negative this can have an adverse effect on performances, particularly when individual players are picked on. Fans' power lies in their negativity not their positivity. Which is a great shame.

You should rewatch the Palace and Liverpool game from the end of the season, the fans reaction at 3-0 and then at each goal spurred the players to keep going, no way that would have happened at Spurs. The ground would have been half empty if we were losing by 3....

arunspurs · May 30, 2014

ever said:
no one has posted it in the RO thread as yet, anyone can post in there, it just take s the all powerful mods to approve it, i on the other hand haven't seen the post in question

Look at Page 17 & 19 of this thread.
Page 17 - Jasper from SO on Lloris
Page 19 - Hertyid on Baldini

Both didnt go to RO.

rawhide · May 30, 2014

0-Tibsy-0 said:
You should rewatch the Palace and Liverpool game from the end of the season, the fans reaction at 3-0 and then at each goal spurred the players to keep going, no way that would have happened at Spurs. The ground would have been half empty if we were losing by 3....

Liverpool also tends to be a great example of the fans spurring the team on...

Regardless of what we think about them, the fans help the team.

rawhide · May 30, 2014

arunspurs said:
Look at Page 17 & 19 of this thread.
Page 17 - Jasper from SO on Lloris
Page 19 - Hertyid on Baldini

Both didnt go to RO.

Stop complaining & post it in the RO then...

Edit:done it myself

SpursDave88 · May 30, 2014

0-Tibsy-0 said:
You should rewatch the Palace and Liverpool game from the end of the season, the fans reaction at 3-0 and then at each goal spurred the players to keep going, no way that would have happened at Spurs. The ground would have been half empty if we were losing by 3....

Confusing correlation and cause...they were spurred to keep going by the fact they scored a goal. Also perhaps you weren't at the home game against Man City...our support did a fat lot of good then.

arunspurs · May 30, 2014

rawhide said:
Stop complaining & post it in the RO then...

I am not complaining. I am just asking. Obviously I can't give to A&C because I didnt whore it from the other sites in first place.

...
Probably I shouldn't have asked about this, in hindsight.

0-Tibsy-0 · May 30, 2014

SpursDave88 said:
Confusing correlation and cause...they were spurred to keep going by the fact they scored a goal. Also perhaps you weren't at the home game against Man City...our support did a fat lot of good then.

Their fans carried on getting behind the team when they were 3-0 down. That will at least motivate the players to keep going. I honestly believe that if we were more positive at the Lane, louder, behind the team from start to finish we would cause am improvement (however slight)

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