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Atletico sign Antoine Griezmann

Giovanni

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Id personally would have much preffered kono instead to be honest. I dont think its good to have tooo many simila players and for me griezmann is not even as good as lamela or eriksen but he is a mix of the two just not as good.

on the other hand.....kono is a real twinkle toes and he really MAKES THINGS HAPPEN in and around the area. Technically hes better than griezmann and hes much more of an overall threat in the areas we would need him to be. Lamela-eriksen-kono is just mouthwatering and soldado would actually get a bucket load in front of them...... get kono and await thd cricket scores against anybody outside the top8
 

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Would like a more (presumed) cost-effective signing for the LW position. Someone like Memphis Depay or Jean-Paul Boetius. Granted, Depay costs more but he should, he's a bit further in his development at the same age (also has the WC experience under his belt).
 

DaSpurs

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Lets go get Rebic from Fiorentina, will cost about 8m.

Not opposed to that idea at all, especially since he can provide cover at striker. In fact, I think his footwork would allow him to be an excellent striker under Poch in working with the rotating attacking mids in behind.

I'll concede bias here though, as I'm a massive fan of Croatian players. Absolutely adore their balanced style of play.
 

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Id personally would have much preffered kono instead to be honest. I dont think its good to have tooo many simila players and for me griezmann is not even as good as lamela or eriksen but he is a mix of the two just not as good.

on the other hand.....kono is a real twinkle toes and he really MAKES THINGS HAPPEN in and around the area. Technically hes better than griezmann and hes much more of an overall threat in the areas we would need him to be. Lamela-eriksen-kono is just mouthwatering and soldado would actually get a bucket load in front of them...... get kono and await thd cricket scores against anybody outside the top8
In what way is Konoplyanka better technically than Griezmann?
 

mpickard2087

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Lets go get Rebic from Fiorentina, will cost about 8m.

I still think we may look for a more direct option who has striker tendencies a la Jay Rodriguez, so this may not be a bad shout. They can still interchange but it offers a different threat to the others in the attacking midfield strata.
 

Strikeb4ck

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I'd take Konoplyanka over Griezmann too. Both are good but Konoplyanka would add real pace and the ability to create something out of nothing (Townsend could have this quality too if he develops right). That will be necessary for playing against all the teams that bunker down and play 11 back against us. Griezmann/Eriksen/Lamela + striker is very appealing on paper, but I think it would be a bit too slow in real life. Konoplyanka adds something different. At 12m I just can't see why it's not happened yet.
 

Strikeb4ck

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I still think we may look for a more direct option who has striker tendencies a la Jay Rodriguez, so this may not be a bad shout. They can still interchange but it offers a different threat to the others in the attacking midfield strata.
Kane can play that left wing forward role too, he did it more than once with AVB or Sherwood and quite well actually.
 

Mr Pink

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Kane can play that left wing forward role too, he did it more than once with AVB or Sherwood and quite well actually.

if you think Greizmann/Eriksen/Lamela wouldn't have enough speed...surely Kane and those two wouldn't either!
 

Strikeb4ck

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if you think Greizmann/Eriksen/Lamela wouldn't have enough speed...surely Kane and those two wouldn't either!
I'm not talking about physical speed. I'm talking about ball movement.

And I'm not advocating Kane playing there or anything, I'm just saying if Pochettino wants a Jay Rodriguez type playing there, rather than spend 30m on an overpriced English player, we already have Kane who has shown he's capable of that role.
 

Mr Pink

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I'm not talking about physical speed. I'm talking about ball movement.

And I'm not advocating Kane playing there or anything, I'm just saying if Pochettino wants a Jay Rodriguez type playing there, rather than spend 30m on an overpriced English player, we already have Kane who has shown he's capable of that role.

ball movement...Griezmann/Lamela/Eriksen would be insane IMO. You can't get enough of quality movement and intelligent interplay!

But yeah, I get you regarding Kane.
 

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I'd take Konoplyanka over Griezmann too. Both are good but Konoplyanka would add real pace and the ability to create something out of nothing (Townsend could have this quality too if he develops right). That will be necessary for playing against all the teams that bunker down and play 11 back against us. Griezmann/Eriksen/Lamela + striker is very appealing on paper, but I think it would be a bit too slow in real life. Konoplyanka adds something different. At 12m I just can't see why it's not happened yet.

I'm with you on the quality of Kono (although I do think Griez would be an excellent option under Poch), and I agree Townsend could become something along these lines with time, but I do think the ITKs suggesting his contract is difficult are correct. This isn't the first we've heard he has a weird contract with third party involvement, and it would explain why Ian Ayre spent close to 24 hours physically in Ukraine and still couldn't pull it off in January.

With time I hope we may be able to pull it off, but considering his price and the fact he has indeed not moved, I wouldn't be surprised if Levy sees everything involved and just pulls the plug. The reason I say this is because I think it possible he may ask Poch how worth it he is, and Poch say not worth immense trouble because of what is already at the club.

Personally would love to see him pull on the lillywhite, but at this point I've come to give up on the hope we'll address left wing this window and may go with what we have for the time being. As long as we address right centerback, and center mid if Sandro does leave, then I'll be at least quite positive for the season ahead.
 
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kdem

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So now that the Atletico are in for Griezmann a portion of the people that said we needed to go in for him have adjusted their position and are saying Konoplyanka is better or Griezmann isn't that good?

Come off it, Konoplyanka isn't as good as Griezmann. Griezmann is the best LW that could conceivably come to us. I would be over the moon with Griezmann, as long as our other problems were addressed too.

With that said, I hold the rather controversial opinion that I would rather have Chadli + Townsend + 25M than Griezmann. We have defensive holes that need to be plugged, and dropping 20 M on a pair of CBs, sending out Chiriches to Roma (if he really wants to go), Dawson to whoever will pay for him, and keeping Kaboul on the best as long as possible is the better deal for our squad for this upcoming season.

My pipe dream for our club is to get Manolas to partner with Vertonghen - he would be exactly what we need to slot in next to Vertonghen. And then spend the balance of the 'Griezmann money' on Schneiderlin. Much more balanced squad.

Chadli will come good this year, mark my words. He was brought in because he's a very promising player that is very flexible. He can play across a front 3 very easily. He'll be fantastic in Pochettino's system.
 

Ossie85

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I'd take Konoplyanka over Griezmann too. Both are good but Konoplyanka would add real pace and the ability to create something out of nothing (Townsend could have this quality too if he develops right). That will be necessary for playing against all the teams that bunker down and play 11 back against us. Griezmann/Eriksen/Lamela + striker is very appealing on paper, but I think it would be a bit too slow in real life. Konoplyanka adds something different. At 12m I just can't see why it's not happened yet.

What I get from your post is that you didn't watch Griezmann at all.
Griezmann is seriously fast. Much faster than Konop. He has a lot of assists, and not to mention the amount of goals.

Seriously. Griezmann is on another level to Konop
 

Strikeb4ck

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What I get from your post is that you didn't watch Griezmann at all.
Griezmann is seriously fast. Much faster than Konop. He has a lot of assists, and not to mention the amount of goals.

Seriously. Griezmann is on another level to Konop
I watched quite a bit of Griezmann. He isn't slow by any means, but he's definitely not as fast as Konoplyanka. No clue where you got that idea from. Griezmann is a much more technical player than Kono...I wouldn't say he is all that different from Lamela. Kono is more like a trickier, less physically overwhelming Bale but both Kono and Bale can just dribble past players and score, which is what an attack as technical as Lamela/Eriksen/Griezmann might be lacking.

Obviously either one would make us much better than having say Chadli there. I prefer Konoplyanka. You may prefer Griezmann. Unfortunately I think Poch prefers Jay Rodriguez.
 

DaSpurs

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What I get from your post is that you didn't watch Griezmann at all.
Griezmann is seriously fast. Much faster than Konop. He has a lot of assists, and not to mention the amount of goals.

Seriously. Griezmann is on another level to Konop

I rate Griezmann and at a level price would have chosen him over Kono with Poch in charge, but I don't think he's faster than Kono. The guy is maliciously quick.
 

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What I get from your post is that you didn't watch Griezmann at all.
Griezmann is seriously fast. Much faster than Konop. He has a lot of assists, and not to mention the amount of goals.

Seriously. Griezmann is on another level to Konop

Nope. He is a much better player, though.
 

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We desperately are in need of a goal scoring Left Wing Forward. We need a player with serious pace and the ability to shoot with accuracy with both feet from outside of 15 yards. Lennon and Townsend have no end product, and Chadli doesn't have the top end pace to really get in behind defenses.

Griezmann is the type of signing that helps us close the gap significantly with Arsenal. I also believe Remy or Origi would've fit our need, too, but alas, we missed out on them. Jay Rodriguez simply isn't ready to contribute in August, which is when we need the entire first team to be together and firing on all cylinders. Don't underestimate how important it is for Pochettino to have an outstanding first season. Finish 6th and you will see Eriksen, Vertonghen, and Lloris leave next summer, and Poch will be at the mercy of Levy operating perfectly in the transfer market. Back to back 6th place finishes, which would be a given if we lost those three key players would almost certainly see him sacked given Levy's recent string of terminations of managers.
 
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