Eric Dier - Signed

spursram · Jul 31, 2014

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jul/31/eric-dier-tottenham-sporting-lisbon

interesting read.

Shadydan · Jul 31, 2014

Yeah yeah yeah English premium and all that...

lol

Marty · Jul 31, 2014

Shadydan said:
Yeah yeah yeah English premium and all that...

lol

English premium only kicks in if the player's at a PL or maybe Championship club.

Shadydan · Jul 31, 2014

Marty said:
English premium only kicks in if the player's at a PL or maybe Championship club.

There is no such thing as an English premium.

Cornpattbuck · Jul 31, 2014

So Carl "Average Joe" Jenkinson on loan to West Ham gets a prominent mention on BBC Sport and yet still no sign of Eric...

spursram · Jul 31, 2014

Someone's comment from the Guardian article:
"As a Portuguese I know Eric Dier very well (as a footballer obviously) and this article seems kind of odd to me, although I understand it due the different perspective that the English have on him. The thing is, he isn't very good, and the fact that his first season in Sporting was the one he played the most shows it, and it is also important to mention that in that season he played mostly in the midfield rather than as a centre back, and he does look better playing as an holding midfielder. Here in Portugal he was highly rated at the beginning but now he is regarded as the"next flop" so I don't think that you should put the bar so high for him, because here in Portugal we don't, and would be a surprise if he did make it in the PL. To conclude last season he played very few games in Sporting, and if we take into account who were the centre backs of the club, it doesn't bode well for him... But I might be completely wrong of course"

Tottenham_God · Jul 31, 2014

spursram said:
Someone's comment from the Guardian article:
"As a Portuguese I know Eric Dier very well (as a footballer obviously) and this article seems kind of odd to me, although I understand it due the different perspective that the English have on him. The thing is, he isn't very good, and the fact that his first season in Sporting was the one he played the most shows it, and it is also important to mention that in that season he played mostly in the midfield rather than as a centre back, and he does look better playing as an holding midfielder. Here in Portugal he was highly rated at the beginning but now he is regarded as the"next flop" so I don't think that you should put the bar so high for him, because here in Portugal we don't, and would be a surprise if he did make it in the PL. To conclude last season he played very few games in Sporting, and if we take into account who were the centre backs of the club, it doesn't bode well for him... But I might be completely wrong of course"

chrissivad · Jul 31, 2014

Spurs Lodge Kittens said:
Someone was saying in the other thread that it was something like being affiliated to an FA for three years between 16 and 21 and because he's played through the age groups then he might get HG status.

It sounded optimistic to me but is a good argument.... fingers crossed

Im sure the rule/law states it's club level

best i can find...

10. To be Home Grown, a
player must have been
registered with any
club affiliated with the
Football Association for a
period, continuous or not,
of 36 months prior to his
21st birthday

JerryGarcia · Jul 31, 2014

Can he play against Celtic? I don't see why not if he's with the team now.

Spurs Lodge Kittens · Jul 31, 2014

Let's hope Levy has found a loophole about the HG thing.

It's the only negative I have in this. Sign an Englishman and yet he still is classed as foreign and take up an unnecessary foreign spot in a couple of years

Sweech · Jul 31, 2014

Spurs Lodge Kittens said:
Let's hope Levy has found a loophole about the HG thing.

It's the only negative I have in this. Sign an Englishman and yet he still is classed as foreign and take up an unnecessary foreign spot in a couple of years

There is no loophole.

It's a pretty cut and dry ruling from UEFA.

and it's really not that big of a deal.

HappySpur · Jul 31, 2014

Cool cool cool

I will admit that every time I read his name, Kieron Dyer is what pops in my head and I weep a minute or so before realizing I'm reading it wrong.

SlickMongoose · Jul 31, 2014

spursram said:
Someone's comment from the Guardian article:
"As a Portuguese I know Eric Dier very well (as a footballer obviously) and this article seems kind of odd to me, although I understand it due the different perspective that the English have on him. The thing is, he isn't very good, and the fact that his first season in Sporting was the one he played the most shows it, and it is also important to mention that in that season he played mostly in the midfield rather than as a centre back, and he does look better playing as an holding midfielder. Here in Portugal he was highly rated at the beginning but now he is regarded as the"next flop" so I don't think that you should put the bar so high for him, because here in Portugal we don't, and would be a surprise if he did make it in the PL. To conclude last season he played very few games in Sporting, and if we take into account who were the centre backs of the club, it doesn't bode well for him... But I might be completely wrong of course"

Quick, sell him.

Adamspurs · Jul 31, 2014

Cheap, young, potential. Worth a shot.

Welcome Eric!

SlunkSoma · Jul 31, 2014

Surely if he is English then he would count as homegrown - as the reason that rule exists is to promote the development of talent for the national team. If he isn't considered homegrown then that sounds like bureaucratic nonsense.

XSuicideBunnyX · Jul 31, 2014

SlunkSoma said:
Surely if he is English then he would count as homegrown - as the reason that rule exists is to promote the development of talent for the national team. If he isn't considered homegrown then that sounds like bureaucratic nonsense.

He isn't homegrown - yet Siggy, Schneiderlin and Lukaku are. Funny world sometimes.

SlunkSoma · Jul 31, 2014

XSuicideBunnyX said:
He isn't homegrown - yet Siggy, Schneiderlin and Lukaku are. Funny world sometimes.

Crazy. So that whole ruling is a load of shit. Players who take a brave route developing elsewhere are punished.

King of Otters · Jul 31, 2014

spursram said:
Someone's comment from the Guardian article:
"As a Portuguese I know Eric Dier very well (as a footballer obviously) and this article seems kind of odd to me, although I understand it due the different perspective that the English have on him. The thing is, he isn't very good, and the fact that his first season in Sporting was the one he played the most shows it, and it is also important to mention that in that season he played mostly in the midfield rather than as a centre back, and he does look better playing as an holding midfielder. Here in Portugal he was highly rated at the beginning but now he is regarded as the"next flop" so I don't think that you should put the bar so high for him, because here in Portugal we don't, and would be a surprise if he did make it in the PL. To conclude last season he played very few games in Sporting, and if we take into account who were the centre backs of the club, it doesn't bode well for him... But I might be completely wrong of course"

Sounds promising.

HappySpur · Jul 31, 2014

SlunkSoma said:
Surely if he is English then he would count as homegrown - as the reason that rule exists is to promote the development of talent for the national team. If he isn't considered homegrown then that sounds like bureaucratic nonsense.

English or not, he hasn't developed in England at all. He's been in Portugal since he was six. Which kind of makes you think the Portuguese commentary is a bit odd as he's been on their books for 14 years. And while I get it that his first senior year was two years ago, he played 13 times. And to write him off as shit after 14 games.....well that makes him more of a Yiddo than a Portugeezer

Ossie85 · Jul 31, 2014

SlunkSoma said:
Surely if he is English then he would count as homegrown - as the reason that rule exists is to promote the development of talent for the national team. If he isn't considered homegrown then that sounds like bureaucratic nonsense.

I think the word pretty much gives you the answer to that.

HOME GROWN

Dier was not "grown" in England

Sweech · Jul 31, 2014

SlunkSoma said:
Crazy. So that whole ruling is a load of shit. Players who take a brave route developing elsewhere are punished.

The rule was made to promote teams to use their academies to develop players. It accomplishes this.

Forums

What's new

Matches

Sportsbook

Members

Eric Dier - Signed

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Audere est farce

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Dark star crashes...

Well-Known Member

Ruh Roh Ressegnon

You Can't Unfry Things Jerri

Copacetic

Well-Known Member

Like dogs bright

FM Champion 2015

Like dogs bright

Well-Known Member

You Can't Unfry Things Jerri

Rio de la Plata

Ruh Roh Ressegnon

Similar threads