Wanyama I can see
I don't think he was acted the other two and don't think he chose Nokando
Poch needs to take a long hard look at himself.
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Wanyama I can see
I don't think he was acted the other two and don't think he chose Nokando
fletch82
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The sad thing is i wasnt even that shocked by this performance.
You could see it coming a mile off we have not had a convincing display since city
Op. Not sure its all down to poch mate
Far too many players in spurs shirts not putting in a shift but the buck always has to stop with the manager its he's job so he needs to sort it and a tad sharpish really.
Good post though thought provoking without being knee jerk
You could see it coming a mile off we have not had a convincing display since city
Op. Not sure its all down to poch mate
Far too many players in spurs shirts not putting in a shift but the buck always has to stop with the manager its he's job so he needs to sort it and a tad sharpish really.
Good post though thought provoking without being knee jerk
He specifically asked for Sissoko anjd he himself scouted Janssen.
Hercules
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Absolutely!
muppetman
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It's almost like we lost a game of football tonight?
Jesus wept, it wasn't pretty tonight and it hasn't been great in the Champions League but why was our previous effort in the CL so amazing? Because it was so totally unexpected, because we punched a LONG way above our weight!
This season we've looked what we are - a young team with a lack of experience at this level. This need from some fans to chuck it all away and start again when it's not going smoothly is mental. Don't get me wrong I'm as fucked off as anyone about the way that we've played recently. I'm a ST holder and bought all 3 tickets for Wembley so I feel as much pain as anyone BUT it's a learning process for everyone at the club at the moment.
We knew when we appointed Poch that he'd never managed at this level, that he was relatively new as a coach, that he would "learn on the job". that's what we are seeing here - it's grim but we are Spurs, a top 6 club - NOT Borrusia Dortmund whatever some on here might think.
Jesus wept, it wasn't pretty tonight and it hasn't been great in the Champions League but why was our previous effort in the CL so amazing? Because it was so totally unexpected, because we punched a LONG way above our weight!
This season we've looked what we are - a young team with a lack of experience at this level. This need from some fans to chuck it all away and start again when it's not going smoothly is mental. Don't get me wrong I'm as fucked off as anyone about the way that we've played recently. I'm a ST holder and bought all 3 tickets for Wembley so I feel as much pain as anyone BUT it's a learning process for everyone at the club at the moment.
We knew when we appointed Poch that he'd never managed at this level, that he was relatively new as a coach, that he would "learn on the job". that's what we are seeing here - it's grim but we are Spurs, a top 6 club - NOT Borrusia Dortmund whatever some on here might think.
Hazardousman
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The sad thing is i wasnt even that shocked by this performance.
You could see it coming a mile off we have not had a convincing display since city
Op. Not sure its all down to poch mate
Far too many players in spurs shirts not putting in a shift but the buck always has to stop with the manager its he's job so he needs to sort it and a tad sharpish really.
Good post though thought provoking without being knee jerk
I appreciate the discussion and your opinion also your compliment, I agree with you, the players need to look at themselves as well but like you say, the buck stops with the manager, if he isn't motivating them then you have to worry about why that is the case.
I mean look how it ended for Jose at Chelsea, same team now, different side however, I feel like with a manager like Poch it only takes a few doubts and the whole deck comes falling down.
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Agree with some, but not all of that. Just going back to last seasons team is pointless if we don't find the energy and rediscover our pressing game. I keep saying it, but our build up play from the supposed best team ever (as anointed by SC 2016) and use of the ball was turgid for big chunks of 90 mins last season. Dier and Dembele were solid but not actually offering a huge amount with the ball, and when the going got tough and we needed outlets they often hid (go back and watch Dembele tonight for prime examples of this).
What we had though was energy and desire and would our work teams, we'd keep battering on the door until the breakthrough came. We also had attacking players who, despite having quite erratic all round games, had enough form and confidence to come up with moments to turn a game.
We need the energy and pressing game back firstly, but we also need to desperately work on our attacking structures and playing the ball out from the back. It wasn't great last year, this year we're stuck in an endless cycle of shuffling the ball across the back line.
What we had though was energy and desire and would our work teams, we'd keep battering on the door until the breakthrough came. We also had attacking players who, despite having quite erratic all round games, had enough form and confidence to come up with moments to turn a game.
We need the energy and pressing game back firstly, but we also need to desperately work on our attacking structures and playing the ball out from the back. It wasn't great last year, this year we're stuck in an endless cycle of shuffling the ball across the back line.
Hercules
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I don't read it the way you do. They are constructive critiques from passionate fans, and our opinions matters.
millsey
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Over reaction. Why on earth should sats
Effect pochs future? Crazy
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Leicester have qualified for the last 16, top of their group in a much harder group might I add, we had enough to qualify from this group even if it meant finishing second, we haven't been good enough and the majority of that blame is laying at the managers feet.
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They arnt even squad players.
NEVILLEB
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I was generous
mightyspur
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Harder group? Have a word!
Liar
Nah look when you're desperate for a fuck you get your beer goggles on and at times fuck a girl you wish you hadn't but you did because she had her legs spread.
Poch was desperate so he went for Sissoko when it was 11pm on 31 August.
I think he didn't get batshuyai and isco who both would have cost similarly to the money spent on Janssen and Sissoko.
southlondonyiddo
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All our injuries have had a huge effect on us this season but yeah Pochs useless, get rid
Let's get the next one in. Great idea
He's hopeless managing in his 1st season in the CL trying to juggle the league with an ok squad ravaged by injuries
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Let's get the next one in. Great idea
He's hopeless managing in his 1st season in the CL trying to juggle the league with an ok squad ravaged by injuries
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muppetman
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It's this obsession with blame that upsets me.
Leicester can play their first 11 for this because the league has gone for them. There is also zero pressure on them - if they get out of the group great - if they don't then they are just little old Leicester so it was always a huge ask.We are expected (by pundits and lots of our fanbase) to beat anyone other than the top 5 or 6 teams in the world because we are Spurs!
Poch is trying to use the squad and today it just didn't work out. However, if he flogs the core 11 to death, many would be calling for his head in a couple of months when we are losing games due to fatigue!
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No one is saying he should be sacked, but hes made some baffling decisions lately and needs to sort it out.
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