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The Spurs Youth Thread – 2016/2017
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spursfan77
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The Chelsea lad, Tomori
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scat1620
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Nah, Optimistic. I'm still in a prolonged fit of pique about getting fondant potatoes wrong a week or two back.
spurs9
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We obviously read/interpreted his post very differently to how you and some others did. If I felt he was accusing Edwards of being a Taarabt in attitude, I wouldn't have given a positive rating and if clarifies that he did mean to do that, I won't hesitate to remove it.
Until I read your and others posts, the negative angle didn't even occur to me and upon second reading, whilst I can see where you are coming from, it still doesn't read that way and personally, I think you and others have read this with a mind that constantly expects fans to be negative about youth players, which I can understand.
Spurzinho
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You are correct Spurs9. My post wasn't accusing Edwards of anything. I am not familiar with any suggestion that he is lazy and he seems to have outgrown that completely normal bad boy phase that he went through a couple of years ago. My post was not an attack against Edwards who I rate very highly and have everything crossed that he makes it. What I was trying to express, perhaps a little too passionately is that I don't believe in treating youngsters differently no matter how talented, not least because I don't think you're helping the lad in question. IF Edwards decided he wasn't interested in being patient and working hard to get to the level that Poch demands then I would support the club in not giving in to any demands for fast tracking or any other give aways. I want players here that completely buy into Poch's philosophy. If any player thought they were owed something I would have a similarly dim view. But again that is not to accuse anyone of anything. Edwards may sign a new deal and break through next season and prove to be the dazzler that we all hope and pray that he is.
ljinko888
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I suppose the other perspective with Edwards is he needs to be set higher targets and the motivation comes from being involved in first team football. By that I mean his talent might have outgrown the age-group levels and his peers. Being frank many of those he plays with and against at that level will not make it to a high level whereas he is considered the bright spark at our academy. It doesn't guarantee anything of course but it works both ways that we expect more from him than the others, so he expects more from us. Not favoritism by any means, just a pathway.
Edwards may step up his game in training with the first team knowing the pathway is there. So he's competing for a squad place now rather than waiting for his time which no matter how well he trains may be a while presently. If you're just training with no playing time it's human nature to drop off IMO. I don't follow the reserves a lot but they don't play frequently as far as I know.
Edwards may step up his game in training with the first team knowing the pathway is there. So he's competing for a squad place now rather than waiting for his time which no matter how well he trains may be a while presently. If you're just training with no playing time it's human nature to drop off IMO. I don't follow the reserves a lot but they don't play frequently as far as I know.
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I am right on board with Pochettino's egalitarian work ethos, and also the club's ethos of not over pampering these kids and ruining them but we have to remember these are young human beings too, often from tough areas and reasonably poor and uneducated backgrounds. You can't expect them all to be little automatons aged 17-21. They don't rationalise everything logically and with maturity. They don't all get the best advice either.
How patient were you at 17 ? If some of your mates who weren't as smart or gifted as you were driving round in Porsches and earning 10k a week and you were earning 15k a year and being driven round in your dad's people carrier, how patient would you be feeling?
I'm not condoning everything, if a kid is just a billy big bollocks trouble maker then so be it, get rid, it's just life is rarely that black or white is it, especially not for a hormonal teenager. I would hope Spurs aren't as ruthless as many of the horror stories I've heard about how clubs treat academy players, but the bottom line is Spurs, just like most academies, are primarily looking after themselves, they take these kids for 5-10 years, and these kids basically put all their eggs into the football basket, and then if they turn out to be deemed not worthy they are pretty much discarded and chucked on the scrap heap and told now make an alternative life. To have tasted that dream life and then to have it pulled away must be devastating.
That's why I find it hard to criticise any of the kids we hear about at Chelsea etc. for taking the fucking money, I don't blame them at all, they might never make it but at least they've got something to show for all the sacrifice they and their families invariably make for a big chunk of their childhood.
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Cornpattbuck
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Completely agree.
As the old phrase goes, what will be will be. I can't wait to see Edwards in the first team but if it doesn't happen then there are a million and one reasons why that might be the case.
I hope he sees the positives we offer and the openings that are there in his position if he can get physically attuned to the men's game. Which is ALWAYS a question mark over every youth teamer and rightly so.
Leicester thought Kane was shite, Dembele frustrated all the way until his late 20s, Alderweireld was sent to Southampton on loan (!) while a million and one Bright Young Things have burnt out before they've even left an impression...
Marcus should have a bright future at Spurs, Poch has said he hopes Marcus has a bright future at Spurs and as far as I've been aware, until recently, Marcus feels he has a bright future at Spurs...
Fingers crossed.
Cornpattbuck
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Reading all this made me head for YouTube. Man I can't wait for Harry Winks to be fit again. The real deal.
nightgoat
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I watched most of the highlights on Eurosport (about an hour of the game). Guinea were very athletic but quite low on technical ability and it looked like the England coach tried to match that by picking larger, stronger but less technical players, which didn't work. England had very little flow to their game, didn't keep possession very well and were on the back foot for a fair amount of the game. If Guinea's finishing wasn't Zokora-esque we could easily have lost. It didn't seem like any of the changes improved the team.
Spurzinho
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Dare I say it, typical England.
THFCSPURS19
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LESNIAK'S LAST CHANCE
Tottenham will take one last look at Filip Lesniak on the post-season trip to Hong Kong before considering whether to offer him a new contract, according to Sky sources.
Lesniak, 21, sees his current deal expire this summer and we understand Tottenham have yet to indicate a desire to agree an extension.
Several Championship clubs are interested in signing Lesniak on a Bosman free transfer this summer, as well as top-flight clubs in his native Slovakia, Czech Republic, Russia and Greece.
Tottenham will take one last look at Filip Lesniak on the post-season trip to Hong Kong before considering whether to offer him a new contract, according to Sky sources.
Lesniak, 21, sees his current deal expire this summer and we understand Tottenham have yet to indicate a desire to agree an extension.
Several Championship clubs are interested in signing Lesniak on a Bosman free transfer this summer, as well as top-flight clubs in his native Slovakia, Czech Republic, Russia and Greece.
danielneeds
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We'll need to put BC on a SC suicide watch should this go the wrong way for him...
SlickMongoose
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I like him, but there's no point giving him a contract if he's not going to play.
The squad that flew out to Germany today for the Under 19 Volksbank Cup:
Freeman (GK), Whiteman (GK), Bennetts, Brown, Edwards, Georgiou, Gonzalez-Velasco, Griffiths, Harrison, Lock, Loft, Marsh, Omolabi, Reynolds, Roles, Shashoua, Tsaroulla.
Interesting Sterling is with the first team squad and Edwards has gone to Germany.
Freeman (GK), Whiteman (GK), Bennetts, Brown, Edwards, Georgiou, Gonzalez-Velasco, Griffiths, Harrison, Lock, Loft, Marsh, Omolabi, Reynolds, Roles, Shashoua, Tsaroulla.
Interesting Sterling is with the first team squad and Edwards has gone to Germany.
beats1
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What happened to us not playing people who dont sign, yet we give a chance to Lesniak
sammy1882
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I just spotted this as well, seems he isn't injured or perhaps he's not 100% which is why he is in Germany and not Hong Kong.
What happened to us not playing people who dont sign, yet we give a chance to Lesniak
It may be different as it sounds like we haven't offered a deal to Lesniak.
