Tottenham vs Roma: Match Thread
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mawspurs
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Odd sky are reporting this as a 2-2 draw
http://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...am-hotspur/10962201/spurs-2-2-roma-highlights
http://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...am-hotspur/10962201/spurs-2-2-roma-highlights
I wonder if part of Harry's frustration and anger is that he knew from training with Fazio that he could beat him easily one on one. He did so in the match, committing Fazio to the tackle, and got scythed down, exactly as he expected. And then the ref, either useless or something worse, refused to give the clear penalty.
In truth, we've seen some awful CB play in this tournament, some of it from Spurs players. But if we'd paid Euros 35 million (plus 10 milllion add ons) for Lindelof, and then seen the penalty he gave away with a tackle so late it made Fazio look like Usain Bolt, I'd be worried.
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Yeah i think Kane knew he could take him on easy, Fazio is a very slow centre back and rash with his decisions. Can't believe that Lindelof one as well, i hadn't seen that before.
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Not just the penalties! Trying to be unbiased (just watched the whole game this morning). Some of the bookings were very poor and some not given were not good either!! (in fairness, if he was consistent, he should have booked Kane for his tackle on the sideline and Dele for a shoulder charge). Clear foul on Wimmer for the last goal too.
Also showed his weakness when he sent off Potch (or one of the coaches) and then didn't follow through with it!!
Anyway not a bad game overall, nice to see some of the kids play.
Them's my onions!!!
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Wimmer. And agreed on all points
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It was Wimmer not Jan
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Probably got their info from Jim White.
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Hence the question mark.
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I assume it's because they drew with Real Madrid then won the penalty shoot-out
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Just about functioning after 3 and a half hours sleep...
Some quick thoughts. Again as I said at full time, I think that was a fairly rusty display from us and, even with the refs input, a loss wasn't that surprising in the end. We pressed hard for about the opening 10 mins, realised Roma were a slick outfit and could play their way out, and so we got caught 'inbetween' with some pressing and some not and achieving nothing on this front. With the ball we were very sloppy, it was treated like a hot potato and along with obvious errors we were too often trying to force play with low percentage passes.
Individually a mixed bag:
Both keepers had little to do and couldn't be blamed.
Jan and Toby were not at their best.
CCV had a better game than the other night. Harsh penalty against him, and his yellow card was having to recover and bail out a team mate.
Trippier was pretty meh.
KWP was ok. Defensively no real errors, with the ball what I expected considering he's playing a bhit safe and isn't going to go on the outside when played on the left.
Dier and Dembele were individually poor, and as a duo that has to be possibly their worst outing - even if it was pre-season.
Onomah worked hard and had a few nice touches, but wasn't as involved as you'd hope as we couldn't string much play together first half.
Alli has been the worst player so far in pre-season across the two games. I'm not saying that should be made into a big deal, just calling what I have seen.
Kane got riled up second half and started putting himself about a bit, but he too is still warming up.
Wimmer didn't inspire confidence in really anything he did. Clearance for goal 2 was weak, whether he was fouled for goal 3 or not he seemed to go down very easily.
Davies was solid enough.
Winks was busy, as per, and found some nice forward touches and managed to scramble the ball home for a goal.
TOB wasn't awful, but not hugely involved and was caught ball watching for the 2nd goal when the ball broke loose. Not quite ready yet you'd say.
Eriksen was a bit subdued, cant really recall much from him.
Nkoudou came on and every touch was basically disastrous, then with his last act out of nowhere swung in a decent cross for Janssen
Georgiou... I'll be consistent and say about him as I often say about Nkoudou, he was direct without a lot of end product - and I think a lot of fans just see directness as amazing no matter what output is achieved - however he went out there looking like he knew he had nothing to lose, he worked hard and put himself about, and a couple of times he forced something by his hard work. Not a bad 45 mins at all on the whole.
Janssen didn't get too many touches, but hit the post in the build up to goal 1 and steered in goal 2 so job done.
Not great, sure we'll be better for the start of the season though....
Some quick thoughts. Again as I said at full time, I think that was a fairly rusty display from us and, even with the refs input, a loss wasn't that surprising in the end. We pressed hard for about the opening 10 mins, realised Roma were a slick outfit and could play their way out, and so we got caught 'inbetween' with some pressing and some not and achieving nothing on this front. With the ball we were very sloppy, it was treated like a hot potato and along with obvious errors we were too often trying to force play with low percentage passes.
Individually a mixed bag:
Both keepers had little to do and couldn't be blamed.
Jan and Toby were not at their best.
CCV had a better game than the other night. Harsh penalty against him, and his yellow card was having to recover and bail out a team mate.
Trippier was pretty meh.
KWP was ok. Defensively no real errors, with the ball what I expected considering he's playing a bhit safe and isn't going to go on the outside when played on the left.
Dier and Dembele were individually poor, and as a duo that has to be possibly their worst outing - even if it was pre-season.
Onomah worked hard and had a few nice touches, but wasn't as involved as you'd hope as we couldn't string much play together first half.
Alli has been the worst player so far in pre-season across the two games. I'm not saying that should be made into a big deal, just calling what I have seen.
Kane got riled up second half and started putting himself about a bit, but he too is still warming up.
Wimmer didn't inspire confidence in really anything he did. Clearance for goal 2 was weak, whether he was fouled for goal 3 or not he seemed to go down very easily.
Davies was solid enough.
Winks was busy, as per, and found some nice forward touches and managed to scramble the ball home for a goal.
TOB wasn't awful, but not hugely involved and was caught ball watching for the 2nd goal when the ball broke loose. Not quite ready yet you'd say.
Eriksen was a bit subdued, cant really recall much from him.
Nkoudou came on and every touch was basically disastrous, then with his last act out of nowhere swung in a decent cross for Janssen
Georgiou... I'll be consistent and say about him as I often say about Nkoudou, he was direct without a lot of end product - and I think a lot of fans just see directness as amazing no matter what output is achieved - however he went out there looking like he knew he had nothing to lose, he worked hard and put himself about, and a couple of times he forced something by his hard work. Not a bad 45 mins at all on the whole.
Janssen didn't get too many touches, but hit the post in the build up to goal 1 and steered in goal 2 so job done.
Not great, sure we'll be better for the start of the season though....
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cheers for posting but makes for worrying reading
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Just seen the goals and bits on Skysportsnews and like other people I am bemused by the penalty decisions, I am not really bothered about the decisions, shit happens, but it does raise questions about fourth official input in that if he saw one and put the ref right why didn't he do that when he saw the other? Its not sour grapes and I'm not even complaining about the refereeing I'm just pointing out that if football thinks fourth official input will even out refereeing inconsistencies this shows they are wrong, it just doubles the opportunity for them.
Apart from all that this was a good run out, glad to see the players get angry and come back from 2-0 down and we would have learnt more from going 2-0 down than by going 2-0 up.
Apart from all that this was a good run out, glad to see the players get angry and come back from 2-0 down and we would have learnt more from going 2-0 down than by going 2-0 up.
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I agree in the main but I thought that Kane and others got distracted from winning the game in order to start a fight. It was other players coming on who got back to trying to play football.
I feel this is a weakness, that we can easily get drawn into a fight, which stops us playing our game and we will have to watch in Europe against experienced sides. Kane, Dele and Dier in particular need to learn to just get on with the game because you can't change bad decisions.
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