Danny Rose

buckley · Aug 10, 2017

if you could have said"i would like to derail spurs start to the season" you would be pretty happy with what rose said.
It can go one of two ways no1 upset the whole shebang or bring the players together at this pont in time
For myself i have faith in poch he will i think unload Rose and move on with class and style

worcestersauce · Aug 10, 2017

Let's be honest, all of our players are underpaid and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded.
The quality of our players would earn them more money elsewhere, the reason is that we don't have the revenue to pay top wages but that situation will change next season and if our wages don't increase to recognize that then players will be off.
It's not necessarily greed that will push them it is being undervalued, like anyone else we would all accept what our company can afford but if they can afford more then we would feel disrespected, there will be more of this, starting with Toby's contract in my opinion.

Mr Pink · Aug 10, 2017

But I will say this, is anyone really that surprised after selling Walker.

It's the shit that follows after selling a first team player to a rival.

As if none of them have noticed he's just doubled his wages, or more.

Cavehillspur · Aug 10, 2017

Mr Pink said:
But I will say this, is anyone really that surprised after selling Walker.

It's the shit that follows after selling a first team player to a rival.

As if none of them have noticed he's just doubled his wages, or more.

They were saying on the Sportsbar on Talksport last night that Walker now pays more tax on his wages than Rose gets paid, whether or not that's true ...

Trix · Aug 10, 2017

Thing is the players know the only way out is if the manager wants you out. Best way to do that? Go public, we all know Poch hates stuff being done through the media.

I think he is trying to force Poch's hand here tbh, and knowing the manager it might well work.

dude573 · Aug 10, 2017

Only a handful of years ago, so many of our fans slated him, now a few years on we all expect him to be loyal to the club?

I can't blame Rose for what he has said as a lot of it is true. He lives far from his home and gets paid a minimal amount compared to footballers worse than him who play elsewhere.

Although I can and will say that this is unfair to Pochettino going into the new season, who has made him the player he is.

Ben1 · Aug 10, 2017

Mr Pink said:
But I will say this, is anyone really that surprised after selling Walker.

It's the shit that follows after selling a first team player to a rival.

As if none of them have noticed he's just doubled his wages, or more.

We opened the gate and had a handy excuse that we wanted to sell, when's it's clear he wanted out first. Just like we can now claim it's our decisions to sell rose as he's a disruptive influence...even though it's all his doing.

SpursDave88 · Aug 10, 2017

HildoSpur said:
This is the big worry. Let's be honest - we all know we have been on borrowed time due to the wages we pay compared to our rivals, it can't last. Rose is the first to speak out but you can be sure that many others (if not all the players) will be thinking the same thing. This could be the beginning of the end of this squad and inevitably Poch as manager. I REALLY hope it does not come to that but I believe that unless the club handles this situation in the right way (which in my view is to be realistic with our wage structure and move it up a level) we could be looking at a disaster that could derail the club and send us back to mid-table mediocrity for another decade.

Yes I'm being dramatic but it really could be this serious.

I feel like Rose is making an appeal to the board and fans.

We stay because we want to win things - to do so we need to sign players. If you don't sign players, we won't win things therefore there is no point in staying here on below market wages.

In any other industry, if this was a friend of yours doing a job - you would agree with his sentiments.

Trix · Aug 10, 2017

Mr Pink said:
But I will say this, is anyone really that surprised after selling Walker.

It's the shit that follows after selling a first team player to a rival.

As if none of them have noticed he's just doubled his wages, or more.

Walker was going no matter what, he didn't have much of a choice in the matter if he wanted to play. I admit it was hardly a punishment when you consider where he has gone and what he is now earning, but either way this was always going to happen.

SpursDave88 · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
Thing is the players know the only way out is if the manager wants you out. Best way to do that? Go public, we all know Poch hates stuff being done through the media.

I think he is trying to force Poch's hand here tbh, and knowing the manager it might well work.

Surely isn't it much more likely that Poch leaves with him, Poch's position is being made untenable as he is not being given the tools he needs to do his job.

thebenjamin · Aug 10, 2017

Selling him is the most idiotic thing the club could do in reaction to this.

Cornpattbuck · Aug 10, 2017

Bit strange that on the day Mourinho/Man Utd hint at wanting another left back and winger, Rose has a public brain fart and Willian comes out about how much he admires Mourinho and would move there if Chelsea would just let him. Both to The Sun.

HildoSpur · Aug 10, 2017

SpursDave88 said:
I feel like Rose is making an appeal to the board and fans.

We stay because we want to win things - to do so we need to sign players. If you don't sign players, we won't win things therefore there is no point in staying here on below market wages.

In any other industry, if this was a friend of yours doing a job - you would agree with his sentiments.

I agree with the sentiment and I also agree we need to get good players in and pay bigger salaries. What I do not agree with is him coming out days before the season starts and blabbing to the Sun. That damages the club and is extremely unhelpful. That is unforgiveable. Having said that - he is right and we do need to step up to the plate and put our money where our mouth is.

Deleted member 22380 · Aug 10, 2017

spids said:
Massively disappointed in Rose. He may be right with some of what he's said but has massively destabilised the club days before the new season. Levy should phone Mourinho and tell him that he can have Rose for Shaw plus an extra £30M (valuing Rose at ~£50M). Poch can get him back on track and we'd then be able to afford Barkley and Van Dijk (who could play in between Tony and Jan and make us even more formidable at the back).

I don't think so. I actually think it was well done and probably strategic to come out with this interview now.

It may jolt Levy into making some signing in the next week instead of waiting until deadline day.

I'm fearful that the people around Levy are all "Yes Men" and he never gets challenged on transfers and wage structure. Rose is doing exactly this in a polite and respectful way through the media.

Rocksuperstar · Aug 10, 2017

shelfmonkey said:
I gave you a 'winner' rating for the above, but I have to say I disagree with the last paragraph, I believe a European super league would destroy league football in most European countries and ruin it in the best supported leagues simply because in the eyes of the media, football outside of the super league would cease to exist, but that's for another time.

I think it'd eat itself inside five years. The clubs will expect more sponsorship, more tv money, more more more until the cash cow dies, then the entire thing will fall apart.

Letting them off the leash into their own league would safeguard the actual domestic league from suffering, keep the clubs that aren't super-rich from the shrapnel and leave the huge clubs to squabble over whatever is left once the big investors get bored or trends move on.

sxboy · Aug 10, 2017

I didnt want Walker to go but i can live with it, Rose going would be worse as i think hes more important to the team although this morning i dont like him much but Mr Pink is right, the Walker move was always going to work against us in other ways. Rose going would be a nightmare not because he's a very very good player but for the unrest it would cause.

In an ideal world i wouldnt give Rose a bean more, make him stay and go and give Toby the contract he wants.

I personally think this payment cap we have is going to be our downfall at a time when we should be pushing on and these players should want to stay at the club. The wages are out of control but if we dont keep up we will lose out. There is no loyalty with players any more just money.

Of course another way to nip this in the bud would be to go out and buy a player and soon, again not easy with our pay cap.

Deleted member 27995 · Aug 10, 2017

SpursDave88 said:
I feel like Rose is making an appeal to the board and fans.

We stay because we want to win things - to do so we need to sign players. If you don't sign players, we won't win things therefore there is no point in staying here on below market wages.

In any other industry, if this was a friend of yours doing a job - you would agree with his sentiments.

He talked more about himself, his value and worth and Danny Rose the product for the most part than anything else.

While his sentiment about investment in the squad will fall into line with the most pragmatic Spurs fan (I don't think many are arguing that point) and without a doubt the media, the timing and the way it has been done is everything wrong with this generation of footballer.

There is an agenda in here which people will latch onto, but the timing is bang out of line, only one thought, himself.

sxboy · Aug 10, 2017

Also i think Rose is worth much more than Walker.

Rocksuperstar · Aug 10, 2017

spurs9 said:
The day the super league happens is the day I stop watching football. Teams from domestic leagues would start to go under as all the money (and therefore top players) would be going to the super league instead.

There's only so many places in so many teams... what they all going to do, sit outside the gates and wait for their turn? Footballers will turn back to the game if they want to play.

yiddopaul · Aug 10, 2017

ohtottenham! said:
He's been around the block. He's 27. Not a young kid like Kane or Alli. I don't blame him for speaking his mind. He was one half of the best wing back pairings in the PL. I don't like it as a Spurs fan, but understand where he's coming from. If he was a real mercenary, he'd have done a Berbatov a while back.

Maybe he would have done if he was any good, a while back.

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