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DeadleyLedley

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Janssen is, despite vocal haters amongst Spurs fans, welcome at the club and I believe has a role to fill this season that is other than being sold.
Appreciate the sentiment but I'm struggling to see what Janssen has done to inspire so much loyalty from a proportion of our fans. He's been brought in, for a decent amount of money and it's clear he doesn't cut it at this level. His link up play is okay but he never looks like scoring and that is a massive flaw for someone who is supposed to be the back-up for our main striker. I've got nothing against the guy, he works hard, but I don't see how it's going to work for him at this club. We've either seen the best of him or he needs to be playing week in, week out to show what he's capable of - which isn't going to happen.
 

cockerel downunder

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I think he'd come good with a run of games but seems unlikely to get that with us.

I think poch would prefer a backup striker that can also play wing/inside forward role to give more flexibility eg martial or balde

Itk recently suggested a new forward player could come at a loss to us and people assumed rose to manure but I reckon selling Jansen is the loss.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Appreciate the sentiment but I'm struggling to see what Janssen has done to inspire so much loyalty from a proportion of our fans. He's been brought in, for a decent amount of money and it's clear he doesn't cut it at this level. His link up play is okay but he never looks like scoring and that is a massive flaw for someone who is supposed to be the back-up for our main striker. I've got nothing against the guy, he works hard, but I don't see how it's going to work for him at this club. We've either seen the best of him or he needs to be playing week in, week out to show what he's capable of - which isn't going to happen.
I simply believe it is premature to write him off. A young, international forward, I've always stated that I'd happily give him two seasons hence another year of full support, and I have not changed my view. I'd love for him to stay this season, and revisit this debate next summer.
 

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I think he'd come good with a run of games but seems unlikely to get that with us.

I think poch would prefer a backup striker that can also play wing/inside forward role to give more flexibility eg martial or balde

Itk recently suggested a new forward player could come at a loss to us and people assumed rose to manure but I reckon selling Jansen is the loss.
I think that's the point, cdu. Whereas Son took his chances and scored some goals as a sub, even if he did that Janssen is never going to displace Kane and get a starting place. How really is he going to play himself into any kind of form if he gets 2 minutes' pitch time every other week?
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Janssen just needs to work hard and stay optimistic, and he'll get his chances. As soon as domestic and European cups start rolling, Kane will have to skip matches in one competition or the other. That's when we'll learn much more about Janssens qualities, or lack thereof.
 

Spurrific

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Not sure what people expect. He is back-up to one of the best strikers in the world, plays in patches or in 10 minutes here or there. He's a good player and if he doesn't make it with us, he will elsewhere. There's a reason he's Holland's number 9.
 

thebenjamin

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Not sure what people expect. He is back-up to one of the best strikers in the world, plays in patches or in 10 minutes here or there. He's a good player and if he doesn't make it with us, he will elsewhere. There's a reason he's Holland's number 9.

Because Holland is enduring the worst generation of football talent in its history?
 

Spurrific

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Because Holland is enduring the worst generation of football talent in its history?

Of course it is. Let's face it, you haven't got a clue about Dutch football.

Anybody on this forum declaring that Janssen is "shit" or any other variation of the word is being ignorant - it's impatience and unrealistic expectations towards a young foreign player coming to England and playing second-fiddle to the most undroppable player in the league.
 

thebenjamin

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Of course it is. Let's face it, you haven't got a clue about Dutch football.

Anybody on this forum declaring that Janssen is "shit" or any other variation of the word is being ignorant - it's impatience and unrealistic expectations towards a young foreign player coming to England and playing second-fiddle to the most undroppable player in the league.

I don't think he's 'shit'. I just think he's been wildly over promoted for a player who was effectively playing non league 2 seasons ago. He isn't ready to play for a club like Tottenham, and the only way he ever will be is if he goes to a lesser club, plays a hundred games or so and learns his trade. And if he did well then he might be ready, in a few years. It's quite clear from watching him now there's so much about being a centre forward that he doesn't yet understand. That's not to say he can't learn and be a very good player in the future, but he isn't one now. And by sitting on our bench he's completely wasting his career.
 

SpartanSpur

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I'd be interested in loaning him to WBA, that way we know for sure if he can cut it in the PL with regular games, reported fees (£30m for him and Wimmer) are sounding like a loss already so not much of a risk.

You'd assume we were pretty confident of another attacker if he did leave however.
 

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Janssen is, despite vocal haters amongst Spurs fans, welcome at the club and I believe has a role to fill this season that is other than being sold.
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spursfan77

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I'd be interested in loaning him to WBA, that way we know for sure if he can cut it in the PL with regular games, reported fees (£30m for him and Wimmer) are sounding like a loss already so not much of a risk.

You'd assume we were pretty confident of another attacker if he did leave however.

I'd be up for this, then at least we could see if he can cut it in the premier league.
 

SpursDave88

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Being honest, if anyone went for a job in the private sector and performed at Janssen's level relative to his job, they would be fired quickly.

I would love nothing more than for him to come in to a game a bully defenders and make a real nuisance of himself, but being realistic, I don't think he would be a starting striker for any team in the PL, he is nowhere near being a PL level striker.
 

SpursDave88

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I'd be interested in loaning him to WBA, that way we know for sure if he can cut it in the PL with regular games, reported fees (£30m for him and Wimmer) are sounding like a loss already so not much of a risk.

You'd assume we were pretty confident of another attacker if he did leave however.

He wouldn't start for WBA, I happily swap him for Rondon, for example.
 
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