Match Ratings Ratings vs West Ham

I am not sure how can people can feasibly criticise Dele for the first goal. Kane pointed at his feet so maybe wasn't expecting a cross but it was perfectly executed and perfectly finished.

Agenda do really blur people's opinions.

Llorente showing Kane and Alli how to control a game.

Verts and Eriksen great.

Alli once again proving he has worst technique in the squad. Maybe on pair with Lloris.

Don't get why Poch think it's impossible for Eriksen and Winks to be on the field at the same time.

KingSandro said:

Sissoko in the middle is causing absolute chaos for the opposition, NO JOKE. As soon as we spring he just tares forward leaving so much room for Eriksen , Alli etc. Long may it continue.

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But it also leaves so much room for the opposition. If the ref/lino had spotted Aurier's shirt tug, we'd have already been a goal down from a ball played straight down the Sissoko shaped gap in our cm, and West Ham are shit. As were Everton, but imagine what half decent teams will do with that kind of central space, especially when he misscontrolls the ball high up with our fb's on the edge of their box.

The problem is, Eriksen isn't exactly defensively robust in this format either and also springs forward. We end up with the not brilliantly mobile Dier fighting Custors last stand.

It's an accident waiting to happen, and is reminiscent of Redknapp football.

We can still play a similar system, it just needs a better balance of personnel imo. Winks is progressive and will move forwards and laterally, and he'll also show for the ball more, including under pressure and use it better.

guiltyparty said:

That's the entire purpose of this forum no?

Do all those saying Dele is beyond critique themselves refrain from critiquing anyone? Would be a very quiet place if so, I don't see it

It's like yesterday someone had a pop about making a comment during the match... in the match day thread. What else is it for?!

Did someone change the site rules when I wasn't looking? It's just odd and seems a way of trying to shut down views you don't agree with, which has concerning implications

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That isn't what I'm implying or suggesting though GP. If people want to critique then that is entirely their right. My point is perspective, which is hugely missing from a great many, particularly in the aftermath of a game or if some have already made their mind up about a player etc. They lose all perspective and reason. It stops being critique and ends up as criticism for its own sake.

For what it's worth, I too feel that Alli's effectiveness has dropped off, but I haven't set an expectation level for him as I understand that, at 21 years of age, he's going to have spells where his game hits a trough. He's going to get sussed and has to learn how to overcome whatever restrictions opposition impose on him. He's currently learning to overcome their targeting of his temperament, he has to come to terms with the sudden superstardom that has been thrust upon him, the leeches that are looking to latch on and bleed whatever they can from him. A plethora of issues that can all have a detrimental effect on his form.

That's the kind of perspective I'm talking about that needs to be taken into account when critiquing a 21 year old kid with a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders, it will affect his form. Consider all of this and the fact that he's still managing to produce, albeit sporadically, is worthy of praise.

Sissoko is another prime example. They hit the nail on the head on MOTD yesterday when they said he looked nervous all last season and his form dropped of massively. He didn't look nervous yesterday and was far more effective, though he does still have a way to go.

But he already has haters who refuse to acknowledge anything he did well, criticising the odd mistake whilst completely ignoring all of the positives he brought. It tends to be the same idiots on here that do that. Those that slaughtered Lamela but piped down when he hit form.

These fools don't recognise form, they expect top performance from the first kick and write a player off if they don't get that consistently. I've lost count of the "sell him" posts relating to every player who's lost form or wasn't at it from the off.

Do I need to remind you of the "Kane will only ever be a League 2 striker" posts? The "Sell Eriksen, he can't tackle and doesn't turn up for the big games" posts? The "Danny Rose is shit" posts?

Even Vertonghen got it when his form dipped under AVB.

I'm not trying to shut down views, I've been trying for years to get across that views need perspective, logic and a reasoned basis. A futile effort in the main, but there are those who take this on board. I'll still disagree with some of those, but I respect their views when they're reasoned.

And before you say it, I've been guilty of snap judgements myself in the past, I even did it with Sissoko. The difference was that I didn't post it, mostly because he's a Spurs player and I hate seeing any player in our colours get dogs abuse from our own fans, but also because I stopped and considered all of the variables that may have been affecting him.

Is it unreasonable to expect our own fans to exercise that restraint and thought process before offering up a critique?

A bit like the old days 3-0 up and if not a nail biting last 20 minutes than at least nail nibbling.
Recent hoodoo overcome and 4th the same as last year.


Lloris.........6.......Not a sign of distributive fuck bumbling today.
Aurier........6.......Rough diamond needs polishing.One major fuck bumble.(-1)
Toby..........7+.....Wouldn't know a fuck bumble if it stared him in the face.
Sanchez...7........Capable of a fuck bumble or two but well marshaled by Verts &Toby
Verts.........8+......Completely grown out of fuck bumbling these days.
Davies......7+......Fuck bumble days seem to be over with him too. More adventurous.
Dier...........6+......Not clever or creative enough to fuck bumble but solid.
Eriksen.....8+......The antidote to fuck bumbling. My MOM.
Sissoko....6+.......Bumble fucking at the very least but less so at the moment.
Dele.........7.........Prince of Fuck Bumblers but I like him.
Kane........8+.......No Fuck Bumbler he. Like snow at Xmas crisp and even.

Good to see Winks ; Llorente cameo most enjoyable.

guiltyparty said:

This. Very well put. And our friend WhoScored gave them both 6.9, which adds weight to your point.

The idea that those frustrated with Alli think he's shit is a weird lie that is being brewed but said by no one.

"Much needed perspective". Yeah because no one else knows or is saying Alli is young and needs time. Proper professor of football there with the brainwave from leftfield

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I actually thought I was engaging in a reasoned discussion with you until I saw that comment. Totally uncalled for.

Whilst I respect and even agree with your views, I was more alluding to those that see only the Black and White of "he's shit" or "he can do no wrong." You seem to feel I'm digging you out from the above.

Like I said, totally uncalled for.

Ionman34 said:

That isn't what I'm implying or suggesting though GP. If people want to critique then that is entirely their right. My point is perspective, which is hugely missing from a great many, particularly in the aftermath of a game or if some have already made their mind up about a player etc. They lose all perspective and reason. It stops being critique and ends up as criticism for its own sake.

For what it's worth, I too feel that Alli's effectiveness has dropped off, but I haven't set an expectation level for him as I understand that, at 21 years of age, he's going to have spells where his game hits a trough. He's going to get sussed and has to learn how to overcome whatever restrictions opposition impose on him. He's currently learning to overcome their targeting of his temperament, he has to come to terms with the sudden superstardom that has been thrust upon him, the leeches that are looking to latch on and bleed whatever they can from him. A plethora of issues that can all have a detrimental effect on his form.

That's the kind of perspective I'm talking about that needs to be taken into account when critiquing a 21 year old kid with a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders, it will affect his form. Consider all of this and the fact that he's still managing to produce, albeit sporadically, is worthy of praise.

Sissoko is another prime example. They hit the nail on the head on MOTD yesterday when they said he looked nervous all last season and his form dropped of massively. He didn't look nervous yesterday and was far more effective, though he does still have a way to go.

But he already has haters who refuse to acknowledge anything he did well, criticising the odd mistake whilst completely ignoring all of the positives he brought. It tends to be the same idiots on here that do that. Those that slaughtered Lamela but piped down when he hit form.

These fools don't recognise form, they expect top performance from the first kick and write a player off if they don't get that consistently. I've lost count of the "sell him" posts relating to every player who's lost form or wasn't at it from the off.

Do I need to remind you of the "Kane will only ever be a League 2 striker" posts? The "Sell Eriksen, he can't tackle and doesn't turn up for the big games" posts? The "Danny Rose is shit" posts?

Even Vertonghen got it when his form dipped under AVB.

I'm not trying to shut down views, I've been trying for years to get across that views need perspective, logic and a reasoned basis. A futile effort in the main, but there are those who take this on board. I'll still disagree with some of those, but I respect their views when they're reasoned.

And before you say it, I've been guilty of snap judgements myself in the past, I even did it with Sissoko. The difference was that I didn't post it, mostly because he's a Spurs player and I hate seeing any player in our colours get dogs abuse from our own fans, but also because I stopped and considered all of the variables that may have been affecting him.

Is it unreasonable to expect our own fans to exercise that restraint and thought process before offering up a critique?

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Absolutely not, and I would hope I adhere to the above. But we should be wary of certain viewpoints being shut down, whatever they be, especially in this day and age.

The different interpretations of the Alli cross just show that most of this is instinctive rather than scientific. No one is wrong, no one is right, it's just different perspectives. As long as people qualify their arguments, and are civil, I don't see what's wrong with constructively disagreeing.

It's what I feel a forum is for - coming on with one point of view and having it chewed over and evolved. As long as you listen as much as you talk - and my post count to time of active service show I do way more of the former - I'd rather people vented here than on Talksport or a more public arena

Ionman34 said:

I actually thought I was engaging in a reasoned discussion with you until I saw that comment. Totally uncalled for.

Whilst I respect and even agree with your views, I was more alluding to those that see only the Black and White of "he's shit" or "he can do no wrong." You seem to feel I'm digging you out from the above.

Like I said, totally uncalled for.

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Yeah it was, I apologise

guiltyparty said:

Absolutely not, and I would hope I adhere to the above. But we should be wary of certain viewpoints being shut down, whatever they be, especially in this day and age.

The different interpretations of the Alli cross just show that most of this is instinctive rather than scientific. No one is wrong, no one is right, it's just different perspectives. As long as people qualify their arguments, and are civil, I don't see what's wrong with constructively disagreeing.

It's what I feel a forum is for - coming on with one point of view and having it chewed over and evolved. As long as you listen as much as you talk - and my post count to time of active service show I do way more of the former - I'd rather people vented here than on Talksport or a more public arena

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Exactly what I've been saying for years on here, opinions must have a basis in fact or reasoned supposition. The "It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it" mantra is what always gets trotted out by those that fail to apply any form of reason to their posts. Mostly I suspect their "opinion" is provided by tabloid newspapers.

guiltyparty said:

Yeah it was, I apologise

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Accepted.

I think it unfair to call it a Dier/Sissoko partnership - Dier is quite clearly on his own in midfield.
They have no special understanding either.

Dier and Eriksen have always had a good understanding, and Sissoko and Aurier seem to be on the same wavelength with each other.
The difference is that a quick pass to Eriksen opens up all sorts of attacking options whereas a pass to Sissoko will usually end there. He can play a good pass, but it seems it is more by accident than design.

Sissoko is athletically rather than aesthetically pleasing, but as long as his chaos can be channelled to do more damage to them than us, then he is a worthwhile member of the squad. Life is about building functional units out of what you have and we all have a positive role to play if someone has the vision to find the right slot for everyone.

So it is all good. Except if Sissoko ends up driving people mad, don't bring my lad Dier into it. It has nothing to do with him.

danielneeds said:

I really don't see him as any lazier than any of our team at the moment - there is no consistent pressing from Kane, Eriksen, Alli or Son at the front. But you like to pick on Alli because you have been from the start.

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Everyone, including myself, repeatedly acknowledge what Alli brings, but the simple and glaring truth is that the good he brings isn't the whole truth, and that is all I have said. I caveat nearly every criticism with "but he will produce moments of quality, he is young and will hopefully improve other aspects of his game" etc.

Before Alli arrived, we had the most proficient defensive attacking players in this league, Alli has definitely had an effect on that. If you watch the way he presses, it's less diligent than most of those you name, and the problem with a high press is that if one player drops off, the whole thing goes to pish. Now, I have criticised Kane frequently for also not leading the press. But Alli is the worst at actually pressing IMO. He'll tackle better than Eriksen, but Eriksen as actually very good at pressing in terms of the how and when to squeeze, when we are doing it as a group, and despite seeing and doing a shitload more with the ball than Alli, as well as being creative and productive, Eriksen also covered more ground than Alli last season.

Jamturk said:

I am astonished that there are people on here that want Alli dropped, incredible folly.

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This team is supposed to be run by a very meritocratic coach. In Son, we have a player who's productivity per minute on the pitch actually superseded Alli's for goals, assists and key passes last season. So I don't really understand why it's madness to suggest, when Alli isn't having a great game, or a great few games, why he shouldn't be subbed, or benched and Son given a a couple of games. It's not "dropped, never to be seen again" it's hopefully to send a message that we are a meritocratic team, that anyone, including Alli must perform to a level of performance to be "selected".

And for the record, there were times last season when I suggested Kane could also do with a rest and kick up the back side.

I don't really get why Alli was thought of as this undroppable wonder bread, but Son seems to have been an afterthought, why it's outrageous that Son could actually be considered a viable alternative. Especially as what Son did in midweek against Dortmund should have been a good reminder that he offers just about the same threat as Alli.

Coyboy said:

I am not sure how can people can feasibly criticise Dele for the first goal. Kane pointed at his feet so maybe wasn't expecting a cross but it was perfectly executed and perfectly finished.

Agenda do really blur people's opinions.

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Personally, I think the agenda bias is far more skewed toward those supporting Alli and refusing to accept any criticism of him. We get crap like "it's the silly bollocks that makes him the player he is" and "him occupying defenders makes space for others" and "how can anyone think of dropping him". Everyone occupies defenders, and it's pretty pointless occupying them and "making space for others" if you then give the ball away, what you are actually doing is making lots of space for the opposition to counter because all your team mates have bombed forward to support the attack that you have just pissed away. And here's the thing, I've criticised Kane for doing it, Sone for doing it, and Lamela (back in the day) and used careless and bumbly to describe all of them. But no one has accused me of an "agenda" against most of our attackers.

The point about the assists for Kane, was that IMO it is indicative of the agenda bias toward Alli. Fuck nugget Sheringham says it's a brilliant assist, hit perfectly, and Alli's agenda brigade runs with this without actually thinking about to for themselves. But it actually wasn't. That was about as easy an assist to make as you will get in a game. When Alli takes the ball and has one touch, Kane is actually easy to pass to and ahead of his defender, but Alli then takes three strides, and now the channel between Kane and the goal has narrowed, and instead of playing it along the ground he now has to hit the pass quickly, because he's running out of room to play it, ends up whacking it, head height, as a result, Kane has to stretch and nearly misses - he actually only just gets enough on it for it to go in off the far post from about 2 yards out (that's how slight a contact he gets). And I pointed this out just to highlight the pro Alli agenda bias. What was called a "great assist" actually was nearly fucked up and made what should have been a tap in, a near miss and was indicative of much of the careless play by Alli in this game and in many of his games.

Here's a freeze frame from AFTER Alli takes his first touch:



Maybe this helps explain my point.

And if you want a great example of this exact seem situation (in fact with a much harder degree of difficulty) producing a better quality assists then just watch Sane's ball for Sterling in the ManC v Palace game this weekend.

Hell, we even had half of Alli's agenda boys claiming his whacking a great chance straight at Hart was an "assist" for Kane. How about going after that that kind of bullshit agenda ?

guiltyparty said:

That's the entire purpose of this forum no?

Do all those saying Dele is beyond critique themselves refrain from critiquing anyone? Would be a very quiet place if so, I don't see it

It's like yesterday someone had a pop about making a comment during the match... in the match day thread. What else is it for?!

Did someone change the site rules when I wasn't looking? It's just odd and seems a way of trying to shut down views you don't agree with, which has concerning implications

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Can’t agree more. Plus you get the sycophants who jump on the bandwagon if opinion differs against one of their favourites. You’ll get rated accordingly. It’s amusing and childish but what do you expect. It’s the fucking internet

Bus-Conductor said:

Everyone, including myself, repeatedly acknowledge what Alli brings, but the simple and glaring truth is that the good he brings isn't the whole truth, and that is all I have said. I caveat nearly every criticism with "but he will produce moments of quality, he is young and will hopefully improve other aspects of his game" etc.

Before Alli arrived, we had the most proficient defensive attacking players in this league, Alli has definitely had an effect on that. If you watch the way he presses, it's less diligent than most of those you name, and the problem with a high press is that if one player drops off, the whole thing goes to pish. Now, I have criticised Kane frequently for also not leading the press. But Alli is the worst at actually pressing IMO. He'll tackle better than Eriksen, but Eriksen as actually very good at pressing in terms of the how and when to squeeze, when we are doing it as a group, and despite seeing and doing a shitload more with the ball than Alli, as well as being creative and productive, Eriksen also covered more ground than Alli last season.



This team is supposed to be run by a very meritocratic coach. In Son, we have a player who's productivity per minute on the pitch actually superseded Alli's for goals, assists and key passes last season. So I don't really understand why it's madness to suggest, when Alli isn't having a great game, or a great few games, why he shouldn't be subbed, or benched and Son given a a couple of games. It's not "dropped, never to be seen again" it's hopefully to send a message that we are a meritocratic team, that anyone, including Alli must perform to a level of performance to be "selected".

And for the record, there were times last season when I suggested Kane could also do with a rest and kick up the back side.

I don't really get why Alli was thought of as this undroppable wonder bread, but Son seems to have been an afterthought, why it's outrageous that Son could actually be considered a viable alternative. Especially as what Son did in midweek against Dortmund should have been a good reminder that he offers just about the same threat as Alli.

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Personally, I think the agenda bias is far more skewed toward those supporting Alli and refusing to accept any criticism of him. We get crap like "it's the silly bollocks that makes him the player he is" and "him occupying defenders makes space for others" and "how can anyone think of dropping him". Everyone occupies defenders, and it's pretty pointless occupying them and "making space for others" if you then give the ball away, what you are actually doing is making lots of space for the opposition to counter because all your team mates have bombed forward to support the attack that you have just pissed away. And here's the thing, I've criticised Kane for doing it, Sone for doing it, and Lamela (back in the day) and used careless and bumbly to describe all of them. But no one has accused me of an "agenda" against most of our attackers.

The point about the assists for Kane, was that IMO it is indicative of the agenda bias toward Alli. Fuck nugget Sheringham says it's a brilliant assist, hit perfectly, and Alli's agenda brigade runs with this without actually thinking about to for themselves. But it actually wasn't. That was about as easy an assist to make as you will get in a game. When Alli takes the ball and has one touch, Kane is actually easy to pass to and ahead of his defender, but Alli then takes three strides, and now the channel between Kane and the goal has narrowed, and instead of playing it along the ground he now has to hit the pass quickly, because he's running out of room to play it, ends up whacking it, head height, as a result, Kane has to stretch and nearly misses - he actually only just gets enough on it for it to go in off the far post from about 2 yards out (that's how slight a contact he gets). And I pointed this out just to highlight the pro Alli agenda bias. What was called a "great assist" actually was nearly fucked up and made what should have been a tap in, a near miss and was indicative of much of the careless play by Alli in this game and in many of his games.

Here's a freeze frame from AFTER Alli takes his first touch:

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Maybe this helps explain my point.

Hell, we even had half of Alli's agenda boys claiming his whacking a great chance straight at Hart was an "assist" for Kane. How about going after that that kind of bullshit agenda ?

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I have to disagree with everything you say simply because @Spurrific told me I need to ‘unwrap my mouth from your helmet’ or something like that. That was because I agreed with your Aurier comments earlier. I am trying to figure out what it means as I don’t speak Nancy boy.

I think it's a misnomer to think sissoko is playing as an orthodox CM.He is playing much more advanced ,but filling in when needed at CM.Its very useful against packed defences.And nothing like the role dembele plays ,which is much more patient.I agree against better opposition we could be exposed.But I'm pretty sure sissoko is mainly a tactic to be used when teams park the bus.

coys200 said:

I think it's a misnomer to think sissoko is playing as an orthodox CM.He is playing much more advanced ,but filling in when needed at CM.Its very useful against packed defences.And nothing like the role dembele plays ,which is much more patient.I agree against better opposition we could be exposed.But I'm pretty sure sissoko is mainly a tactic to be used when teams park the bus.

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I agree. I think Poch has decided to use Sissoko and Eriksen combined skils to replace Dembele which is why we have our semi-diamond shape. In defense Sissoko uses his physicality to take the ball off players and track runners while on transition he charges forward attracting defenses to give Dier and Eriksen time to move the ball forward.

Ionman34 said:

I actually thought I was engaging in a reasoned discussion with you until I saw that comment. Totally uncalled for.

Whilst I respect and even agree with your views, I was more alluding to those that see only the Black and White of "he's shit" or "he can do no wrong." You seem to feel I'm digging you out from the above.

Like I said, totally uncalled for.

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Who has ever said "he's shit"? Plenty of people won't hear any criticism of him though, or meet it with a plethora of excuses or denials.

I think Alli has a gift, his movement when we have the ball in attacking areas can be fantastic, and his presence on a pitch is way superior to his age. But age doesn't excuse everything. He's now made nearly 200 senior appearances, 100 of them at the very highest level of football. Most weeks nearly all of us would take the rough with the smooth with him, but that doesn't mean you don't call the rough, especially when there's more of it going on than the smooth, and it also isn't heresy to suggest Son, who is even more productive, and brings different qualities, as well as some similar weaknesses, be played sometimes in his stead. His status in the team isn't going to be under any long term threat, and he might just benefit from being shown he isn't untouchable, most players do, and it's what the best coaches do.

coys200 said:

I think it's a misnomer to think sissoko is playing as an orthodox CM.He is playing much more advanced ,but filling in when needed at CM.Its very useful against packed defences.And nothing like the role dembele plays ,which is much more patient.I agree against better opposition we could be exposed.But I'm pretty sure sissoko is mainly a tactic to be used when teams park the bus.

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The travesty in all this, is that this role would have been a lot better with Onomah in it. It's not like Sissoko can do anything Onomah can't, Onomah even moves with the ball better than Sissoko. But this kind of hybrid 8 role would have suited Onomah's game to a tee. It really is ironic that he's spent years building up to it, and the problem was we never really played this system and it's harder to introduce a young player into a CM2 because that role has much more responsibility, we finally switch to a kind of 3CM system and Onomah has been packed off.

Ionman34 said:

That isn't what I'm implying or suggesting though GP. If people want to critique then that is entirely their right. My point is perspective, which is hugely missing from a great many, particularly in the aftermath of a game or if some have already made their mind up about a player etc. They lose all perspective and reason. It stops being critique and ends up as criticism for its own sake.

For what it's worth, I too feel that Alli's effectiveness has dropped off, but I haven't set an expectation level for him as I understand that, at 21 years of age, he's going to have spells where his game hits a trough. He's going to get sussed and has to learn how to overcome whatever restrictions opposition impose on him. He's currently learning to overcome their targeting of his temperament, he has to come to terms with the sudden superstardom that has been thrust upon him, the leeches that are looking to latch on and bleed whatever they can from him. A plethora of issues that can all have a detrimental effect on his form.

That's the kind of perspective I'm talking about that needs to be taken into account when critiquing a 21 year old kid with a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders, it will affect his form. Consider all of this and the fact that he's still managing to produce, albeit sporadically, is worthy of praise.

Sissoko is another prime example. They hit the nail on the head on MOTD yesterday when they said he looked nervous all last season and his form dropped of massively. He didn't look nervous yesterday and was far more effective, though he does still have a way to go.

But he already has haters who refuse to acknowledge anything he did well, criticising the odd mistake whilst completely ignoring all of the positives he brought. It tends to be the same idiots on here that do that. Those that slaughtered Lamela but piped down when he hit form.

These fools don't recognise form, they expect top performance from the first kick and write a player off if they don't get that consistently. I've lost count of the "sell him" posts relating to every player who's lost form or wasn't at it from the off.

Do I need to remind you of the "Kane will only ever be a League 2 striker" posts? The "Sell Eriksen, he can't tackle and doesn't turn up for the big games" posts? The "Danny Rose is shit" posts?

Even Vertonghen got it when his form dipped under AVB.

I'm not trying to shut down views, I've been trying for years to get across that views need perspective, logic and a reasoned basis. A futile effort in the main, but there are those who take this on board. I'll still disagree with some of those, but I respect their views when they're reasoned.

And before you say it, I've been guilty of snap judgements myself in the past, I even did it with Sissoko. The difference was that I didn't post it, mostly because he's a Spurs player and I hate seeing any player in our colours get dogs abuse from our own fans, but also because I stopped and considered all of the variables that may have been affecting him.

Is it unreasonable to expect our own fans to exercise that restraint and thought process before offering up a critique?

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Well said and I fully agree. Unfortunately your effort will be in vain. As a Chinese saying goes, “you are playing music to cows”.

Flashspur said:

I have to disagree with everything you say simply because @Spurrific told me I need to ‘unwrap my mouth from your helmet’ or something like that. That was because I agreed with your Aurier comments earlier. I am trying to figure out what it means as I don’t speak Nancy boy.

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What do you mean by Nancy boy? Are you using it as a homophobic slur? Do you want to provide context? As in, you PMed me crying your eyes out about a rep?