Player Watch: Moussa Sissoko

E17yid · Jan 28, 2018

I was banging on about how Poch’s hand has been forced this season what with Winks being injured and Dembele having his fitness issues then whenever he’s played in a 4-2-3-1 we’ve had Lamela out but now I might concede defeat and accept Poch rates him.

Was convinced he’d be first out the door in the summer but now I’m not so sure. Worrying.

SlotBadger · Jan 28, 2018

Lumiere said:
hasn't scored a rabona

This is a strange barometer of ability. You’d struggle to field 11 players. Not even Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo would make it into this fictitious team

parj · Jan 28, 2018

tiger666 said:
Far from our worst player:

I wouldn't say far. Only 0.37 off the worst rated player, or 0.82 off the best on a day when it was a shit performance from everyone.

It was a poor performance, but it was the usual from Sissoko. The issue is not he played bad on a bad pitch, it's the consistency of being poor is now compared to how poor others were to defend him.

parj · Jan 28, 2018

SlotBadger said:
This is a strange barometer of ability. You’d struggle to field 11 players. Not even Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo would make it into this fictitious team

Clearly they are not fit to tie Lamela's laces

ralphs bald spot · Jan 28, 2018

He isn't a long term answer and for the most part isn't a short term one eiter but he certainly wasn't our worst player on Saturday

WexfordTownSpur · Jan 28, 2018

E17yid said:
I was banging on about how Poch’s hand has been forced this season what with Winks being injured and Dembele having his fitness issues then whenever he’s played in a 4-2-3-1 we’ve had Lamela out but now I might concede defeat and accept Poch rates him.

Was convinced he’d be first out the door in the summer but now I’m not so sure. Worrying.

Sorry but we don’t have a big enough quality squad to be getting rid of him. Plus Levy will never get he’s money back right now. We still have injuries and fitness worry’s. I’m sure if everyone was back to 100% form and fitness he wouldn’t get half as many games.

Bus-Conductor · Jan 29, 2018

thebenjamin said:
French journalist Phillipe Auclair on the Guardian footy podcast on Sissoko:

“I have to question Pochettino, why Sissoko is enjoying such a long run in the side. ..it’s baffling...he can’t pass, his crossing is awful, he slows the play down, bad decisions, no creativity and his finishing is dreadful and yet he plays at Spurs? His presence makes you question whether you know anything about football."

Guardian pod today, Paul McGuiness (Journalist and Norwich fan) singled out Sissoko from Saturday's game and basically said how awful he was and is every time he watches him.

"Sissoko, that's it, surely, I mean he's had his 18 months for the Poch miracle to happen where you just suddenly improve the guys condition and ability, but he's still just not one thing or the other, I can't see even one thing that he brings to a team that improves it"

(talks about one run he made at the Euros)

"I keep turning up expecting to see it. (ramble ramble)......... His touch just isn't good enough, doesn't seem aware, and he doesn't apply his physicality often enough. It's all been said before, but that was what was so striking watching that game for me"

It's quite rare for decent (or most really) football journalists to say stuff like this. Phillipe Auclair particularly is a very intelligent, erudite and articulate guy.

The Apprentice · Jan 29, 2018

Bus-Conductor said:
Guardian pod today, Paul McGuiness (Journalist and Norwich fan) singled out Sissoko from Saturday's game and basically said how awful he was and is every time he watches him.

"Sissoko, that's it, surely, I mean he's had his 18 months for the Poch miracle to happen where you just suddenly improve the guys condition and ability, but he's still just not one thing or the other, I can't see even one thing that he brings to a team that improves it"

(talks about one run he made at the Euros)

"I keep turning up expecting to see it. (ramble ramble)......... His touch just isn't good enough, doesn't seem aware, and he doesn't apply his physicality often enough. It's all been said before, but that was what was so striking watching that game for me"

It's quite rare for decent (or most really) football journalists to say stuff like this. Phillipe Auclair particularly is a very intelligent, erudite and articulate guy.

What do Auclair and McGuinness know? Sissoko is executing Poch’s instructions perfectly, according to many on here.

fortworthspur · Jan 29, 2018

The Apprentice said:
What do Auclair and McGuinness know? Sissoko is executing Poch’s instructions perfectly, according to many on here.

if he singled out Sissoko as the worst Saturday then he doesnt know much. There were far worse.

Everlasting Seconds · Jan 30, 2018

There is no point in arguing after every single, individual match whether or not Sissoko was the worst or only the second worst. Problem is that he is always among the worst for all games all the time. The other players fluctuate and there may always be one of all the other players who has a worse game. But Sissoko doesn't fluctuate, he is constantly performing among the least good performers. His seasonal average is the worst, whether or not Wanyama or any other player has a one-off match that's not great.

The Apprentice · Jan 30, 2018

fortworthspur said:
if he singled out Sissoko as the worst Saturday then he doesnt know much. There were far worse.

If we were to conduct an average performance assessment of this season made up of individual game ratings, Sissoko would have comfortably the lowest mean score.

SlotBadger · Jan 30, 2018

The Apprentice said:
Sissoko would have comfortably the lowest mean score.

Awww, that's so mean.

fortworthspur · Jan 30, 2018

The Apprentice said:
If we were to conduct an average performance assessment of this season made up of individual game ratings, Sissoko would have comfortably the lowest mean score.

its called groupthink.

Bus-Conductor · Jan 30, 2018

fortworthspur said:
if he singled out Sissoko as the worst Saturday then he doesnt know much. There were far worse.

I don't think he was singling him out just based on Saturday per se, just that like all of us knows there’s a difference between decent players having bad games, and a player who he just hasn’t ever seen be good.

fortworthspur · Jan 30, 2018

"all of us" isnt really all of us.

TwanYid · Jan 30, 2018

He's like a bigger, stronger Soldado.

zoneD · Jan 31, 2018

...would you rather have a team of 11 Sissokos or 11 Lamelas?
COYS

SlotBadger · Jan 31, 2018

zoneD said:
...would you rather have a team of 11 Sissokos or 11 Lamelas?
COYS

Would you rather unlock a door using...

a key
a basketball

rocklink · Jan 31, 2018

yankspurs · Feb 1, 2018

TwanYid said:
He's like a bigger, stronger Soldado.

Soldado offered way more

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