Summer transfer wish list - 2018

Univarn · Apr 21, 2018

Matthew said:
couldn't agree more, being told we'd go big in the summer, and granted its only the rags, but the links dont suggest its gonna be the superstar/s that were alluded too.

I think this is where ITKs, WUMs, poster's own dreams, and the incredibly erratic nature of memory here all stir together and a beautifully chaotic mix mash of what actually has and has not been said.

SpursDave88 · Apr 21, 2018

Matthew said:
couldn't agree more, being told we'd go big in the summer, and granted its only the rags, but the links dont suggest its gonna be the superstar/s that were alluded too.

You must be new here if you thought we were gonna go and sign superstars.

Deleted member 27995 · Apr 21, 2018

I see the football manager brigade are in ...

Deleted member 27995 · Apr 21, 2018

SpursDave88 said:
You must be new here if you thought we were gonna go and sign superstars.

Didn't realise the window had opened yet. So far, according to you we have sold off our better players and not replaced them with like, and now we won't take a punt on a 'megastar' anything else in your crystal ball septic peg?

Trix · Apr 21, 2018

class of 62 said:
Kane wasn't good enough? ..winks isn't good enough etc.. Blah blah blah. Anyone with eyeballs can see he's something else.

I think you need new eyeballs

tiger666 · Apr 21, 2018

rocklink said:
Nabi keita is the player to buy next window. We need to buy him before liverpool. Even if he cost 50m, it will be worth it.

You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about and not just in this thread.

double0 · Apr 21, 2018

rocklink said:
Right now aurier is nowhere near current walker. If we continually buy experienced players at their peak and replace them with younger players and wait for them to mature, then how could we improve? Did we improve by selling walker and buying Aurier? I don't think so... Aurier has costed us goals in this season and those goals could have been avoided if walker was there

I would say Lloris has cost us more this season. Aurier just needs time to adjust.... Next season I expect to see a much better player

Japhet · Apr 21, 2018

rocklink said:
As usual you are missing the point. Did we improve squad wise buy selling walker and buying aurier? Tell me yes or no. We have not improved. We have regressed by selling walker and buying aurier. And when aurier becomes a player like walker and we need his experience to win titles and big knockout games, at that moment if we sell him, do we really improve at the end? We will forever be a team without any trophy. But if you consider top 4 as a trophy, then that's another case.

We didn't just sell Walker and buy Aurier. We bought Moura with the balance which improved us in a different area.

hellava_tough · Apr 21, 2018

BringBack_leGin said:
This has been the model since 2004 when Arnessn joined. It has taken us from 14th that season, to now regulars in the top 4 (we’d never even finished top 6 until 2006). It has allowed us to grow and improve consistently without having the same spend as our rivals because we aren’t as rich. I experienced player has left unless they have forced it. Carrick, Berbatov, Keane, Bale, Walker, none wanted to stay. Even with the obvious blips each time, we have still grown and improved.

I’m worried that by using our current financial model (buying up and coming young stars and having a wage cap of £100k p/w), as a club we’ve pretty much peaked.

The loss of Walker last season and the freezing out of Toby and Rose this season may have been fair, but it showed that we were a weaker squad for it. Simply put, it’s almost impossible to replace 3 brilliant players, if you’re not prepared to pay market value on wages.

Added to this, transfer fees are so high nowadays that if you want to compete for a league title, the £120m being touted in the press doesn’t get you that much (as I’ve stated a few pages ago). Therefore it’s incredibly important and financially prudent to keep the stars that you currently have.

Let’s put this into perspective.

We’re talking about selling Toby in the summer. The Evening Standard reported that he was holding out for a £100k p/w wage increase, to take him to £150k p/w. That’s £5m a year extra. That really isn’t that much for a player of his calibre, especially when you compare it to other elite defenders around the world.

Indeed, if for example we were going to give 10 of our players a 100k p/w pay rise, that would equate to £50m p/a. I would rather we kept our current squad together and added one £70m player to it, than lose a few of them and sign 4 or 5 £30m players. And even if the £120m figure is nonsense, we could still afford an extra £50m on the wage bill p/a. We’re a club that has consistently spent relatively very little (net) in the transfer market for years now. Further, the sales of the 'dead-wood', would soften the financial burden of extra wages.

In my mind this represents better value than letting the likes of Toby leave the club. It never used to be like that for us, because we weren’t consistently pushing for the top 4 or the title, but times have changed and so must our financial dealings.

Finally, this also depends on what our expectations are; whether we think we can challenge for the league or whether we’re happy to be in the 6th to 4th placed positions. One thing’s for certain though; our rivals aren’t going to be too bothered if we decide to continue with our current financial strategy.

tobi · Apr 21, 2018

Hoddle&Waddle said:
Not good enough with the ball? What planet you on mate?

His technique is above average, he can't play at his own pace, he'd get lots of bookings in centre midfield simply because he miscontrolled the ball.

Hoddle&Waddle · Apr 21, 2018

tobi said:
His technique is above average, he can't play at his own pace, he'd get lots of bookings in centre midfield simply because he miscontrolled the ball.

He'd alter his game, he's intelligent enough to do that as he's played there before. He's obviously not going to take risks like you need to do in the final 3rd.

Japhet · Apr 21, 2018

hellava_tough said:
I’m worried that by using our current financial model (buying up and coming young stars and having a wage cap of £100k p/w), as a club we’ve pretty much peaked.

The loss of Walker last season and the freezing out of Toby and Rose this season may have been fair, but it showed that we were a weaker squad for it. Simply put, it’s almost impossible to replace 3 brilliant players, if you’re not prepared to pay market value on wages.

Added to this, transfer fees are so high nowadays that if you want to compete for a league title, the £120m being touted in the press doesn’t get you that much (as I’ve stated a few pages ago). Therefore it’s incredibly important and financially prudent to keep the stars that you currently have.

Let’s put this into perspective.

We’re talking about selling Toby in the summer. The Evening Standard reported that he was holding out for a £100k p/w wage increase, to take him to £150k p/w. That’s £5m a year extra. That really isn’t that much for a player of his calibre, especially when you compare it to other elite defenders around the world.

Indeed, if for example we were going to give 10 of our players a 100k p/w pay rise, that would equate to £50m p/a. I would rather we kept our current squad together and added one £70m player to it, than lose a few of them and sign 4 or 5 £30m players. And even if the £120m figure is nonsense, we could still afford an extra £50m on the wage bill p/a. We’re a club that has consistently spent relatively very little (net) in the transfer market for years now. Further, the sales of the 'dead-wood', would soften the financial burden of extra wages.

In my mind this represents better value than letting the likes of Toby leave the club. It never used to be like that for us, because we weren’t consistently pushing for the top 4 or the title, but times have changed and so must our financial dealings.

Finally, this also depends on what our expectations are; whether we think we can challenge for the league or whether we’re happy to be in the 6th to 4th placed positions. One thing’s for certain though; our rivals aren’t going to be too bothered if we decide to continue with our current financial strategy.

Didn't we offer Toby 150k and he then asked for 200k and a release clause to let him go wherever he wanted in the mix? I agree that we should be trying to hang onto our elite players but we can't be held to ransom either. The teams we are in direct competition with also have a budget that makes a mockery of the FFP rules. We have to live with that.

Bus-Conductor · Apr 21, 2018

jonathanhotspur said:
Has Thauvin got pace, or does he run like a bandy-legged chicken?

He’s not quick, but quick legs isn’t what we need, it’s quicker brains.

cider spurs · Apr 21, 2018

Japhet said:
Didn't we offer Toby 150k and he then asked for 200k and a release clause to let him go wherever he wanted in the mix? I agree that we should be trying to hang onto our elite players but we can't be held to ransom either. The teams we are in direct competition with also have a budget that makes a mockery of the FFP rules. We have to live with that.

I think it was supposedly 130K per week offered.

Bus-Conductor · Apr 21, 2018

Hengy1 said:
Difference is they never failed in the prem and had to move back to a weak league ??

So a young player has a bad season in a strange country at a club who are in a mess and that means we write his whole career off?

That weak league has continually produced better footballers than the PL. And up until this year, their clubs had often outperformed PL clubs in European competitions in recent years. Like PSG knocking our champions out, Monaco giving us a lesson last year.

Henry failed in Italy and had to make ce to the PL to be a success.

We’ve had plenty of players who’ve taken longer than a season with us to show their best.

I think Thauvin needed to grow up a bit on and off the field. Signs over the last two years are that he has. He’s been outstanding last two seasons and imo has the right game for the PL.

jonathanhotspur · Apr 21, 2018

Bus-Conductor said:
He’s not quick, but quick legs isn’t what we need, it’s quicker brains.

We DO need pace, Bus-Conductor. Obviously it would help if that pace were married to a twinkling of grey matter, which you consistently and sneakily imply are divorced from each other.

We have too many slowcoaches in our preferred starting 11.

double0 · Apr 21, 2018

I really hope we buy top quality and if we can find a bargain such as we did with Dele Alli fantastic ..There's no point getting in fillers it makes better sense to promote Onomah Walker Winks Foyth.

After careful consideration I fell we need better wingbacks (Trippier and Davies ain't first choice) that would be my first priority followed by a midfield general then a left footed wing forward.

If we generate enough Sale I would add a left footed CB however in a three at the back with Vertonghen rested Davies could cover.

RichieS · Apr 21, 2018

jonathanhotspur said:
We DO need pace, Bus-Conductor. Obviously it would help if that pace were married to a twinkling of grey matter, which you consistently and sneakily imply are divorced from each other.

We have too many slowcoaches in our preferred starting 11.

The problem is that the attacking players who possess both are beyond us in terms of wages. It's the very best players in the world that combine top physical with top mental attributes and we just can't compete for them. It's similar to the fullback situation where what we really want are players that combine the best attributes of Trippier, Davies and Aurier. Although I'm not even sure that such players exist in that particular case (peak Rose wasn't far off, although he's not as good a crosser as Trippier and not as good a defender as Davies).

Edit: And for the record I agree with BC that quickness of the brain is far more valuable than quickness of the legs.

Bus-Conductor · Apr 21, 2018

jonathanhotspur said:
We DO need pace, Bus-Conductor. Obviously it would help if that pace were married to a twinkling of grey matter, which you consistently and sneakily imply are divorced from each other.

We have too many slowcoaches in our preferred starting 11.

The fact is JH, they are rarely married, at best they are occasional fuck buddies.

Which is possibly why the quick players Poch keeps buying are rarely trusted to start games

THFCSPURS19 · Apr 21, 2018

jonathanhotspur said:
We DO need pace, Bus-Conductor. Obviously it would help if that pace were married to a twinkling of grey matter, which you consistently and sneakily imply are divorced from each other.

We have too many slowcoaches in our preferred starting 11.

So you want one of Dele or Eriksen to be dropped?

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