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shelfboy68

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We have lost a QUARTER of our games. That isn't now and again. That's a standard where you will NOT win the title and should be happy if you're in the top 4
Agree you can't lose 5 games before new year and expect to be in a title race it's ludicrous to think that we are, we are in many ways the new arsenal a team that is happy to be top four but lacks the final parts to actually challenge for a title.
 

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I respect your opinion but don't think that's why we lost today.
It certainly didn't help. Plus Tripps gave the ball away to start the third goal that ended the game. Our fullbacks used to elevate our game, those two simply can't do that.
 

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It certainly didn't help. Plus Tripps gave the ball away to start the third goal that ended the game. Our fullbacks used to elevate our game, those two simply can't do that.

Yes but that was when we played a more energetic pressing game which we don't anymore really. Is it because of these that we don't?? Maybe maybe not.

My point was more related to tactically. Had we played a 352 with the same personnel I don't think we lose. Whereas with different full backs in the same tactics shown today I think we do.

The feeling of whether trips and Davies are good enough is not my point, they were good enough to win the game, just instructed wrongly and set up wrongly.

Trippier is targeted by teams that high press due to his hesitancy and is weak defensively.

I would like different full backs too. But I dont think there ability or lack of ability is why we lost today.
 

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Agree you can't lose 5 games before new year and expect to be in a title race it's ludicrous to think that we are, we are in many ways the new arsenal a team that is happy to be top four but lacks the final parts to actually challenge for a title.
Yep. That might change - we should soon have much better revenue, and may get a takeover- but that's where we are right now. Time to focus on the cups
 

ebzrascal

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Think tactically was poor from poch today. Exact same mistake as against arsenal. Which is not good as he hadn't learned. We were tired yes, maybe if not it would of been masked better. But poch got schooled today. Amazes me how poch can be so outstanding tactically on many occasions but get it so wrong in others.
He is arrogant and it will stop him getting to the very top. When he gets criticism in press conferences he basically says he does not care about the opinion of other people including the fans.
 

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Poch has done a great job at this club but his stubbornness with certain players wont last at an "elite" club if he goes..... he gets away with it at Spurs as we love him but playing Trippier for example constantly is a real weakness from our manager.
If he goes to Utd in the summer I wish him well but he wont last unless he changes his stance on the constant rotation of his full backs and playing shit players week in week out.
Think David Moyes, Poch - If you consider leaving..!
Watching Pool tonight, they have played same defence/team every game for weeks, no rotation and look at where they are? why cant our players cope with it?
 

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If we look at our defeats this year, for me Poch has made big errors in the below:

Wolves - not reacting
Watford - not reacting
Arsenal - not reacting

City & Pool - we were well beaten in both
 
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If we look at our defeats this year, for me Poch has made big errors in the below:

Wolves - not reacting
Watford - not reacting
Arsenal - not reacting

City & Pool - we were well beaten in both
I don't think we were well beaten we actually kept going against City and Pool - The other three are more galling because we had control of all three and he had the chance to put them away.

Small margins.
 

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Poch has done a great job at this club but his stubbornness with certain players wont last at an "elite" club if he goes..... he gets away with it at Spurs as we love him but playing Trippier for example constantly is a real weakness from our manager.
If he goes to Utd in the summer I wish him well but he wont last unless he changes his stance on the constant rotation of his full backs and playing shit players week in week out.
Think David Moyes, Poch - If you consider leaving..!
Watching Pool tonight, they have played same defence/team every game for weeks, no rotation and look at where they are? why cant our players cope with it?
Fair points, and things I agree with. Hope his exterior comments today, is not what he believes inside.
 

Hercules

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What exterior comments? the players gave up is how I understood it, or something else?
His last 20 minutes comments. In agreement with the poster, I agree on his stubbornness to persist with Tripps & Davis. KWP has not played, so fresh. He gets MOM again, and dropped. Could not see Fergie doing that for starters.
 
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thinktank

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His last 20 minutes comments. In agreement with the poster, I agree on his stubbornness to persist with Tripps & Davis. KWP has not played, so fresh. He gets MOM again, and dropped. Can’t see Fergie doing that for starters.
I agree poch can be stubborn af, but wrong game for KWP.

He got MoM for his progressive play but wasn't tested defensively in the last game and is still a bit undercooked in that regard.

Our full back situation is in need of attention ,though, generally.
 

LexingtonSpurs

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We have lost a QUARTER of our games. That isn't now and again. That's a standard where you will NOT win the title and should be happy if you're in the top 4
We've also won 75% of our matches. So lets look at the glass from both directions.

We shat the bed today. Lets see how we bounce back against Cardiff and importantly against United.
 

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Poch has done a great job at this club but his stubbornness with certain players wont last at an "elite" club if he goes..... he gets away with it at Spurs as we love him but playing Trippier for example constantly is a real weakness from our manager.
If he goes to Utd in the summer I wish him well but he wont last unless he changes his stance on the constant rotation of his full backs and playing shit players week in week out.
Think David Moyes, Poch - If you consider leaving..!
Watching Pool tonight, they have played same defence/team every game for weeks, no rotation and look at where they are? why cant our players cope with it?
Pool's key players, Mane, VVD, Salah, Firminho either had no, or minimal, World Cup involvement after a grueling season. They've also had good fortune in avoiding injuries this season, which is also probably linked to having rested players. We've had injuries across the squad, especially in midfield and defence, pesky international call ups with Son, all interfering with our momentum.

I agree with you regarding full back rotation, but even then, Rose still needs to be managed after his long term injury. Aurier's out; would like to have seen KWP utilized more, but the larger issue is the quality of squad depth, over which Poch does not seem to have ultimate control.
 

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I agree poch can be stubborn af, but wrong game for KWP.

He got MoM for his progressive play but wasn't tested defensively in the last game and is still a bit undercooked in that regard.

Our full back situation is in need of attention ,though, generally.
I have never been a Tripps fan. I can make do with Davis (if I have to-not!), but to play 2 snails in your wide areas in any game is a disaster. Remember the days of Walker & Rose. That is what we need. So I would of persevered with KWP, after last week
 
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Trips has always been good going forward and is a second rate right back compared to being top notch when played as a wing back.

On saying that, he was bad again today, like he was the first time around against Wolves.
 

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I have never been a Tripps fan. I can make do with Davis (if I have to-not!), but to play 2 snails in your wide areas in any game is a disaster. Remember the days of Walker & Rose. That is what we need. Do I would of persevered with KWP, after last week
The issue with Davies has a lot to do with Rose I think. Davies would probably be fine as a back up if he has to play one out of every 3 or 4 games but due to Roses injury issues it seems to be the opposite.

I'd love to replace Davies with a player good enough to start consistently and keep Rose but don't see that happening.
 

thinktank

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I have never been a Tripps fan. I can make do with Davis (if I have to-not!), but to play 2 snails in your wide areas in any game is a disaster. Remember the days of Walker & Rose. That is what we need. Do I would of persevered with KWP, after last week
Had Aurier and Rose in my line-up for today, so I get where ya coming from.

Didn't have an issue with Tripps on the right instead of KWP starting tbh.

Did with Davies on the other side, though.

Should have started Rose and let Davies start cardiff.
 

WiganSpur

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If we look at our defeats this year, for me Poch has made big errors in the below:

Wolves - not reacting
Watford - not reacting
Arsenal - not reacting

City & Pool - we were well beaten in both
Not sure we were well beaten by City. Lamela missed a sitter and we were unlucky not to come away with a point. We dominated the game against Watford and they just hit us with two set piece goals.

I didn't watch the game today but out of the games we've lost I think you can only blame him for the Liverpool and Arsenal games. And even for the Liverpool game we had Vorm in goal who's for some reason looked terrible this season.
 

SpartanSpur

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Quite the overreaction in here, it's not Poch's fault we are so stretched in CM. He's already kept our season running by turning water into wine with Sissoko.

Yes he needs to round out his in game management (partly why I think staying here is the right option for him) but I'm not getting the pitchforks out. He had 3 of his top DMs out. He can't control Dier needing his appendix out at the worst possible time!

Wolves are no mugs either. Beat Chelsea, held City, Goons and Utd. They have some decent players, I'd take Neves in a heartbeat.

We are lucky to have Poch, no need to harshly criticise IMO. Yes if we had Mourinho we may have nicked a domestic cup along the way but no way we do as well in the league. Not many could replicate Poch's work under the same circumstances. Plus Mourinho is a ticking time bomb.

Liverpool are living proof of what serious backing can achieve when a manager is doing a good job. I pray Levy finds a way to do the same for Poch, then let's see what happens.
 
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