spursfan77
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A graphical illustration of how shite our attack is on this link. It couldn’t really be much worse.
FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo
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sidford
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Words The Guardian podcast hosts described Nuno as this week:
Devoid of energy
Damp
Cold
Sad
Man who's gonna tell you your car has died
Melancholy
Covered in moss
Ancient medieval warrior resurrected out of his tomb to talk to people about loneliness and death and cold
Have to admit think the last one is best one
Devoid of energy
Damp
Cold
Sad
Man who's gonna tell you your car has died
Melancholy
Covered in moss
Ancient medieval warrior resurrected out of his tomb to talk to people about loneliness and death and cold
Have to admit think the last one is best one
Ghost Hardware
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Yeah was very much Levy who had big doubts about him according to itk. From what I remember we twice went in for him buy Levy wouldn’t pull the trigger because he had doubts. And agree Hitch liked him. There was certainly a point were we could have easily got him of Levy had agreed. Supposedly.
Ghost Hardware
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Honestly so tempted to change my name to Covered In Moss.
Aphex
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How can it be incorrect if we are speculating about something that hasn't happened yet? I do see your point but I don't see ETH leaving Ajax to join a relegation battle at Newcastle. If it goes wrong he could be in the championship next season and his repuation severely dented. Well, if he did I'd be surprised. I could see them snapping up both Overmars and ETH in the summer though, if they stay in the PL but Newcastle won't keep a caretaker from now until then, they will want a proper man in place now surely.
There aren't loads of top quality young players Newcastle will have access to. There is always a finite amount of quality. They might have loads of money, but there are other clubs in Europe with money too and much better reputations. It could take them four or five years to become competitive.
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sidford
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He never stood a chance man, was set up to fail from the start. It's all down to levy and the absolute shit show of manager search.
JUSTINSIGNAL
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There were apparently reservations with the fact he didn’t want to bring any staff with him. His persona in front of the media is also more dour than Nuno’s. And even in Holland they feel he benefits a lot from Ajax’s system/philosophy being so defined.
These are the noises that were coming out at the time.
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Spurzinho
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Don't feel too sorry for him. He's extremely wealthy. He took the job on completely false pretences. He talked a lot of nonsense about getting us excited and proud and playing good, attacking football knowing full well that he has no idea how to do so. Sure, he's the fall guy for whatever game Levy and Paratici are playing but I'm not going to weep for a millionaire who's taking us all for a ride. He's not here to do us a favour. He's here because he's being paid handsomely and padding his CV. This is a job that ordinarily someone of his qualities wouldn't get near so... you know. Some perspective. I don't think he's a bad guy or deserves to be vilified but he's no martyr. He could walk away any old time he likes and he'd still get plenty more work in the game or he could retire right now and be wealthy till the day he dies. Care workers I will feel sorry for, shop workers I will feel sorry for, people on zero hour contracts and on benefits I will feel sorry for. Nuno Espirito Santo, not so much.
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Putting aside people's criticism over his tactical ability, this is a guy who was seemingly burnt out after his tenure at Wolves. Frying pan>fire?
Goobers
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Whilst I agree about those you mention such as care workers etc and as someone that works in the NHS I agree. But the point I made requires context - I obviously think others in society are having a very hard time and I am not comparing his struggles with many others - this is a nuanced argument. He has experience of managing big clubs in Europe and some success in doing so. He has been brought in to a very big club (not being anywhere near first choice) to rebuild and under any other circumstances I think he would have been afforded time and patience. But that's not the case here. If we had brought in say, Nagelsman, and he was 6th in the league and in all cup competitions I think he would have been afforded time and patience. Nuno is not getting that space or understanding - why ? I would argue it is because everyone involved is frustrated at the running of the club and the last 2 and a half years of what we have seen - not because of anything he has done or not done. It seems to me that judgments have already been passed on him ! That's my point.
Monkey boy
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Everyone had made their mind up before he was actually appointed but unfortunately after we had vetoed Guttuso we had no more passes left to play so had no choice but to accept NoNo.
it’s very sad for him that everyone feels this way but every man and his dog could see the shit he was gonna be given yet he still took the job despite walking out on Wolves stating that he was heading back to Portugal as he was burnt out. He only has himself to blame on that front. However all our anger should be firmly directed at Levy and Paratici for actually going through with the ridiculous plan in the first place.
Hercules
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Preach it!…?
13VanDerBale13
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Very delusional to think otherwise, he's CLEARLY not up to the job.
Snarfalicious
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Just move on and get us a fresh, young manager to get behind. Seems so silly now to keep on with this as literally everyone knows this is now just a matter of when not if, and it’s all going to end without even anything remotely positive happening. If you can’t find an actual coach that fits a more long-term plan right away due to current obligations, bring on someone, anyone, who can at least bring some excitement. My choice is Ric Flair as the interim manager.
spursfan77
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I didn’t, I was more than willing to give him a chance. I posted numerous articles about the good times he had at Wolves and what a good person he is. But I can see it’s not working. I was positive after the Watford game and tried to convince that we’d turned a corner after the Villa and Newcastle games. But we aren’t at the bottom (or near the bottom) of every single positive metric possible by accident and I have been around long enough to know when it isn’t going to work for a manager. This is it. We will get beaten by any competent team but beat the dross. Its not good enough I’m afraid.
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20 games including pre-season friendlies. It's more than enough to judge...
Goobers
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So in that case why appoint him ? and next why sack him unless you have a VERY clear idea as to who the next incumbent is going to be ?
It's a very strange situation and I have no issue in stating that I feel for him trying to do a job that a seeming majority aren't willing to give him the chance to do. For the record I would not have appointed him but he is the current manager of Tottenham Hotspur football club and I will not stop hoping that he finds solutions and wins people over.
Albertbarich
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The season could still be a good one but the longer they don't act the more this discontent grows
